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Post by simsimaz2 on Jul 12, 2010 11:09:52 GMT -5
Hi, this is my first post, nice to meet you all 
Flat out, I'm a young scientist.
Dan 3.0 is the first of its kind, could be huge and lead to bigger movements in the future.
This once in a life time opportunity should be studied scientifically
(NOTE: i dont mean crazy guy in a lab coat doing experiments on Dan, I just mean a longitudinal social/psych study, questionnaires once a while etc....)
Some really cool unexpected results could come out of this that would 1. make it easier for this organization model to be used in the future and 2. give it credibility because theres been some "science" done with it.
Science fans out there, I hope you understand me, please support! I'm trying to contact dan about it now.... we'll see what happens
Thanks
Edit: please leave comments below, spread the idea, and help me get to dan!
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Post by dbranting on Jul 12, 2010 12:02:50 GMT -5
This is a wonderful idea! when you say questionnaires, what kind of questions are you thinking of asking him, i would love to be part of this study!
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Post by newschooled on Jul 12, 2010 13:43:39 GMT -5
I know it's super generalized at this point, but...How would observable variables be defined as data? Just about anything could happen...
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Post by nickgreyden on Jul 12, 2010 13:57:05 GMT -5
Also you are not working with a focused group but instead a constant random number of participants from variant age, gender, and social cultures. Also the person in question is in fact a large unknown. Though you might be able to sit down with a Q&A session with this Dan, I don't believe he would in many ways represent and "average person". Data collected would be hard to interpret pertaining to any relavent subject and most if not all your "constants" would, in fact, be taken as "variables". Admittedly I do not know much about social experiments, but it seems that any data gathered is... well... almost useless.
Would love to see something though, including a hypothesis that is not formed by longstanding members (less than a month) here as well as markers for "success" and "failures".
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Post by simsimaz2 on Jul 13, 2010 18:42:50 GMT -5
This is a wonderful idea! when you say questionnaires, what kind of questions are you thinking of asking him, i would love to be part of this study! Ill admit right now, I dont have the whole study planned out. But questionnaires would range from informal unstructured openeded ones to structured, industry standard "scientific" questionnaires for personality variables etc.... By questionnaries I more or less meant that Im not asking to put dan in a test tube and give him drugs  |
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Post by simsimaz2 on Jul 13, 2010 18:44:41 GMT -5
I know it's super generalized at this point, but...How would observable variables be defined as data? Just about anything could happen... Dont take this the wrong way but, I dont have a specific answer for you, but thats how the whole field of sociology and sociology psychology and personality psychology works, its not really anything new. Dont forget data has two forms, qualitative and quantitative |
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Post by simsimaz2 on Jul 13, 2010 18:49:21 GMT -5
Also you are not working with a focused group but instead a constant random number of participants from variant age, gender, and social cultures. Also the person in question is in fact a large unknown. Though you might be able to sit down with a Q&A session with this Dan, I don't believe he would in many ways represent and "average person". Data collected would be hard to interpret pertaining to any relavent subject and most if not all your "constants" would, in fact, be taken as "variables". Admittedly I do not know much about social experiments, but it seems that any data gathered is... well... almost useless. Would love to see something though, including a hypothesis that is not formed by longstanding members (less than a month) here as well as markers for "success" and "failures". why a constant random number of people? its just one, dan, not the voters. He does not need to represent the average person for the study It would be as useless as any introductory study, novel study, or exploration into a new field, and yet although thats when interpretation is most difficult, its incontestably required when venturing into unknown territory in science There is no success or failure really in this study. Its like trying to assign a success or failure of a case study... theres no such thing, your explaining and describing something novel, as best as possible. |
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Post by simsimaz2 on Jul 13, 2010 18:53:15 GMT -5
Forgive my messy replying, although ive been a YT subscribers for long, I only recently joined SPOTM. Let me clarify, all I've proposed is a legitamit case study of this novel experiment hes doing because there will never be a "first time" that this sort of thing happened, so its the once and only time that a case study can be done on it. NOTE: I have not proposed and specific, details, research methods etc.... When and if I get in contact with Dan and he likes it, and it has the support of SPOTM, I will go through the normal steps of a research proposal and details, the way I would for my Phd. Thanks for your feedback so far |
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Post by nickgreyden on Jul 14, 2010 2:46:55 GMT -5
1.) Wouldn't part of this study be the forces that act on the person to make him act aka the voters?
2.) It is novel, point taken
3.) Might become my new sig for people that are throwing around the word "success" and "failure" without no one willing to define what that would be.
4.) Dan may be key to this study, but support from anyone here is not a requirement for anything you do here (unless you need help or it has something to do with the research proposal). If you think it's a good idea, do it!
5.) I am still a case study retard.
6.) I like this idea.
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Post by simsimaz2 on Jul 14, 2010 23:38:01 GMT -5
Thanks for the support.
No it would not be much of a study of the forces, aka the people, it would be a study of dan (his brain, personality, etc....), what the result was, and as best a description as possible in a completely legit scientific way, likely to be published in major scientific journals.
Does anyone know how I can get through to him? I tried YT, SPOTM and I even made a twitter account to try that way. Any help by getting him to read this would be much appreciated
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Post by Enemynarwhal on Jul 19, 2010 21:08:54 GMT -5
It could totally work depending on how you do it. I agree that since it's one person it's not going to be accurate as far as everyone but no one really who has not been under the rule of some dictator, metaphorically or literally, has had their life planned for them so to speak. I think it could be interesting I just have no idea how you could do it right. He might look at this thread. Ive seen him post in other Dan 3.0 threads.
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Post by StarrOnTheMoon on Jul 20, 2010 12:00:53 GMT -5
I'm doing something similar! I'm doing a project about Youtube community for my senior mastery project, and I'll also be kind of taking a slightly scientific approach to this. Message me  |
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Post by simsimaz2 on Jul 24, 2010 11:02:11 GMT -5
It could totally work depending on how you do it. I agree that since it's one person it's not going to be accurate as far as everyone but no one really who has not been under the rule of some dictator, metaphorically or literally, has had their life planned for them so to speak. I think it could be interesting I just have no idea how you could do it right. He might look at this thread. Ive seen him post in other Dan 3.0 threads. Doing it right isn't really a big obstacle, I'm not going into this blindly, I work in a social neuroscience lab and I'm pretty good with scientific designs for studies. Again, its not meant to be accurate for everybody, it would probably be a case study of a novel experience. |
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