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Post by zAkAtAk on Apr 1, 2010 19:24:34 GMT -5
Ok, I've been a part of the community for almost two months now. I've tried to keep up to date with what the community is doing. I've looked into Dan's idea for Triads, and him implementing them with the members of the forum. I've fingered through the project's forum and have been invited to projects. Most of these projects appear to have such an insignificant impact, that isn't almost stupid to have a topic over it. For the remaining projects that don't have a cause, it's almost an extension of the "Forum Games" sub-forum. You can only talk about tribes for so long, and as it appears there isn't too much discussion going on on this narrow topic. Besides all the usual forum topics (music, movies, fun threads), there doesn't really seem to be a purpose for these boards.
Why are we here?
I've been thinking about it for about a month now. The only collaborative feature that we all share, is that a high majority of us were linked here from one of Dan Brown's videos. Most of us are between the ages of 15 and 21. I understand that Dan wants to create a community of people that he feels can use the power of the internet for more than what it is currently functioning at. But the fact of the matter is that nothing is being accomplished - it's all social for the most part.
I've decided that until the forums come to reasoning of why we are here, then I will not be contributing to the forums any longer. I will check this thread and post in this thread however. I do feel welcomed here, but I have plenty of other friends which I share much more in common with than the people here unfortunately. You put a bunch of people in a room for a long time, eventually bonds will be made, yes, but without a reason being in the room, there is no reason to be in the room. I just don't see how putting random YouTubers that watch your videos and like you does anything.
I look forward to everyone's responses.
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Post by zAkAtAk on Apr 1, 2010 19:32:08 GMT -5
Oh, and this is not an April Fools joke.
Just realized.
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Post by Breepop on Apr 1, 2010 19:35:45 GMT -5
+3, -2
Goddammit.
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Post by Breepop on Apr 1, 2010 19:43:05 GMT -5
Sorry, vague post was vague. I'm not sure what to tell you. You are correct in saying that the PogoTribe is mostly for socializing right now. Personally, I'm happy with that. While I do relate to people I know in real life, and have a number of friends, it's not quite the same as what is offered on this site (or any other online community, for that matter). I have so much more in common with some of the people on this site than I do with half of my real life friends. I guess we're not all fortunate enough to live in a big place with tons of awesome people.  Either way, I do believe the Tribe is well on its way to being more than just a social site. I guess I'll see you back here when that happens? Bah. |
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Post by snow11 on Apr 1, 2010 19:52:54 GMT -5
Zak, I think that you make a totally honest point. Why are we here? And yes, without having seen one or more of Dan's videos. Visiting SPOTM would be something of mere coincidence. But What i think the purpose of these boards isnt just for normal topics. (Even Though their is a lot of that). But their is also another purpose to these boards. Learning more about other people. And disscusing more interesting topics. And we aren't just random YouTubers we are dedicated. Random YouTubers are people who might watch Dan's videos. People who come to the Moon are more dedicated to Dan and the whole community following him. Thus in all, i think this post is more about personal thoughts. But if anyone agrees With Zak, go ahead. Speak up!
I look forward to your replies!
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Post by zAkAtAk on Apr 1, 2010 20:02:41 GMT -5
You are correct in saying that the PogoTribe is mostly for socializing right now. Personally, I'm happy with that. While I do relate to people I know in real life, and have a number of friends, it's not quite the same as what is offered on this site (or any other online community, for that matter). I have so much more in common with some of the people on this site than I do with half of my real life friends. I guess we're not all fortunate enough to live in a big place with tons of awesome people. You're just a people person. I understand that generally "making friends is good. yay friends". However, I need more than "hey, you like Dan Brown? I LIKE DAN BROWN!!!! Let's be friends and e-hug". I'm more upset at the fact that there isn't a real purpose for here yet. I feel like I'm in the beta testing portion of a site. Don't get me wrong, most of you guys are awesome. I love reading everyone's take on religious, marriage, media, and other social issues but basically I'm just talking to strangers. For example, if we were to all meet up in public, what would we do? What would we talk about? We don't really have much in common except for the fact that we all have internet access. Either way, I do believe the Tribe is well on its way to being more than just a social site. I guess I'll see you back here when that happens? Bah. We'll see... |
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Post by UnfairBear on Apr 1, 2010 20:13:20 GMT -5
I'll miss your entrancing flashing eye =(
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Post by zAkAtAk on Apr 1, 2010 20:14:47 GMT -5
This also might just be me venting. I've had a super shitty day lol.
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Post by Joey on Apr 1, 2010 20:15:17 GMT -5
This also might just be me venting. I've had a super shitty day lol. Me too dude. |
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Post by Breepop on Apr 1, 2010 20:23:13 GMT -5
I find I have tons to talk about, and it's never about Dan. <_<
I have a lot more in common than just Internet access with quite a few people here...
Maybe that is just me though.
AND I'VE HAD AN AMAZING DAY. I know, that helps!!!!!!!one.
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Post by Joey on Apr 1, 2010 20:26:55 GMT -5
I find I have tons to talk about, and it's never about Dan. <_< I have a lot more in common than just Internet access with quite a few people here... Maybe that is just me though. AND I'VE HAD AN AMAZING DAY. I know, that helps!!!!!!!one. You know what Bree??? That hurts my feelings.  |
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Post by Cortney on Apr 1, 2010 20:28:55 GMT -5
I have a lot more in common than just Internet access with quite a few people here... Maybe that is just me though. Yeah, like our butt. Zak, maybe you just need to find someone to share a butt with. It helps. (No, Bree, I'm not going to stop abusing that joke.) |
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Post by Breepop on Apr 1, 2010 20:46:03 GMT -5
You know what Bree??? That hurts my feelings. :'( wat? Cortney: oyeah. You can abuse our butt any day. ;) |
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Post by Joey on Apr 1, 2010 21:31:23 GMT -5
You know what Bree??? That hurts my feelings. :'( wat? Cortney: oyeah. You can abuse our butt any day. ;)WHY I WASTE BRAIN CELLS ON LOWER LIFE FORMS, I DONT KNOW! When you said your day was awesome, well my day pretty much sucked more than any day in my life, so I said that. |
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Post by Cortney on Apr 1, 2010 21:44:52 GMT -5
Every day of my life sucks more than all of the other days of my life. It's why I'm so frakkin' happy all the time.
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Post by zAkAtAk on Apr 1, 2010 21:50:03 GMT -5
Some of it might be attributed to the cocaine.
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Post by Ryan on Apr 1, 2010 22:16:29 GMT -5
I agree with zAk. (No, I'm not on cocaine, no I'm not having a shitty day, but he makes a good point). If you joined the PogoTribe because you like Dan Brown and you listen to what he has to say, and you always agree with him, then you are the epitome of what Dan Brown preaches against. Dan Brown started the PogoTribe because he wanted to start an internet based community (albeit mostly based in his own personal following on YouTube) so that we could work together as a community to do something good for the world. Well, as zAk stated - nothing has really been done. Granted I can attribute this lack of 'doing' to be related to our tribal stage and the fact that although the tribe has been around for a decent amount of time, we are still relatively young. But surely that is no excuse for not doing something.
I read through the project and debate forums several times daily, and I've noticed that many projects don't ever reach completion, or are pointless, or are focused around the tribe. Projects, should be used for the tribe to work together to do something OUTSIDE the tribe. What is the point of us being a community if we aren't going to use our community to do something for the world?
One of the major problems for us as a community is that since we only know each other through the internet, our focus tends to be on the internet. This is not the best way to end world suck. Certainly posting YouTube videos or debating ideas is a great way to work things out for those people who have access and use access to such resources. Unfortunately most of the world suck is outside the internet.
Basically, if you have an idea for a project you want to do - then do the project, start it, finish it, and make it work. If you can't, or don't want to, then the project is worthless. Projects should be used to do something outside the internet, for example: There was a project that involved complimenting strangers. This is a good example of a worthwhile project. It actually helps to end world suck, it is easy to carry out - there are so many strangers in the world, and it is something everyone in the pogotribe can do. The project was started on March 10th. The last time someone posted in the thread? March 16th. Why would that thread not be a popular one? it's a project everyone can participate in, everyone can discuss the compliments they gave and how it might have helped someone out.
9 projects on the first page of the projects forum relate to just the PogoTribe. While these projects may be fun, as zAk pointed out, they are almost a possible extension of forum games - something fun to do with the other tribe members.
So perhaps maybe we need a call to action, or maybe we all just need to take a step back and look at what it means to be a part of this tribe.
Did you join this tribe because Dan said so? or did you join this tribe because you ACTUALLY wanted to do something to end World Suck?
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Post by Nakor on Apr 1, 2010 23:50:58 GMT -5
Everything Tyme said. Moreover, Dan himself touched on this in his last daily vlog on the first value. If the tribe isn't doing any good with its awesome, step up and tell it so.
Maybe the problem is just lack of a starting idea and someone with the motivation to stick to it and really get it off the ground. Is there any particular world suck you'd like to tackle?
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Post by zAkAtAk on Apr 2, 2010 0:19:39 GMT -5
I also dislike the whole Triad system. It seems like everyone wants to be in a Triad but they need to ask Big Brother Dan if they can do it first.
If you want to be in a triad, go ahead and form one on your own. You can just follow along with the other triads. It's not like Dan said you couldn't.
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Post by Ricky on Apr 2, 2010 9:45:34 GMT -5
I agree with Zack in some points, and strangely enough we choose the same day to leave the forum...
I just came in to answer a few messages and tie some lose ends, when I noticed this thread.
Anyways, the forum is at a point in which it'll crumble and become nothing more than a social site, or it'll go on to accomplish what it set out to do. It all depends on how things turn out not only with the triads, but also with bringing more people interested and willing to be active into the tribe.
Zack also brings up a good point about the fact that Dan did say to act without asking for permission and now the triads being set on stone contradicts what was said. Whether everyone will be able to join one in the future or not doesn't matter. The fact of the matter is, it is something he preached against and is being done without consideration of previous statements.
That all being said, I do think that the reason the Tribe hasn't lived up to its potential is not because of Dan Brown himself, but because the members of said community. Only a few seem to care enough to work on projects or add to discussions. The rest are usually interested in games and mundane stuff.
(by the way, out of topic, maybe someone should create a project that acts like a game but with world helping results [maybe some prizes from t-shirt money?]) <-- someone create this now...
Ok, well I guess this might be my last post on the moon, so I better make it count.
I'll miss you all, I hope everything turns out well and that the tribe does manage to end world suck. Just like Zack I might come back later if I see there is something I can help with, or if I'm needed, but for now I think its best if I step aside.
Thank you for everything
DFTBA
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