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Post by bombmaniac on Sept 26, 2010 15:28:23 GMT -5
ok, so for the past few months the moon has progressively been slowing down to the point where it is now slower than a snail dipped in tar. projects are dead, and nothing is getting done. for some people here that is not a problem. some people here believe that we need to simply give more time to community building and the rest will follow. some believe that we are naive for thinking that a bunch of nerds on the internet can have an impact on the real world. to those people i say, you are entitled to your opinions, but i will ask you not to discourage this endeavour. for the rest of you who would like to see SPOTM actually accomplish something please listen up. HERE is a form you can use to devote your time to real world projects that will build both online and real world community. we need committed people who can give of their time and help impact the real world in a positive way. for those of you that are not too keen on this idea and are content in resting on your laurels, i ask that you do not try and hold us back. there is no doubt that this online community has been vegetating for the past few months, i ask that you not stand in the way of our attempt at it's rehabilitation. thank you.
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Post by Rob on Sept 26, 2010 15:31:00 GMT -5
Ooo, I like this. Everyone should see this and fill it out.
I'll start out with stickying it right away in this section and we'll see what to do from there.
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Post by Alex on Sept 26, 2010 15:36:40 GMT -5
This place is dead because we set our sights too high and waited for others to act on things while we as individuals did nothing. Eventually people were just like "Nothing gets done" and they left. It's because everyone expected OTHER PEOPLE to do things.
We need solid ideas for changing the world.
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Post by bombmaniac on Sept 26, 2010 16:00:08 GMT -5
set our sights too high...huh? yeah...you arent the first to say that and where are we? this is an initiative to try and change that. i am asking for committed people to commit their time to something worthwhile. we have the ideas. we have many ideas. what we NEED are the PEOPLE to carry out those ideas.
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Post by Breepop on Sept 26, 2010 16:16:07 GMT -5
Mind sharing your ideas? I don't really want to sign up for a project I don't know anything about... besides that it will take up my time. My available time may vary depending on what we'd be doing, too.
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Post by qooqǝɯɐƃ on Sept 26, 2010 18:10:29 GMT -5
Mind sharing your ideas? I don't really want to sign up for a project I don't know anything about...
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Post by bombmaniac on Sept 26, 2010 20:07:56 GMT -5
no problem. heres one idea i had, the actualk project can be up for discussion but the essential part is the general idea of it.
the following was copied and pasted from a blog entry i wrote on spotmrev.blogspot.com
so...projects...huh? Ok, I got a project for you...how about a bake sale? I know...i know...but hear me out. One of the most common complaints on the moon is that we aren't doing anything in the real world, and that we aren't doing anything as a community. What i'm proposing will change all that. Essentially its a nationwide and possibly worldwide bake sale initiative. Bake sales are very easy to set up, and they are already commonplace in schools and churches. Ill explain. Basically what id like to do is get at least 5 SPOTM members to set up bake sales in their towns. It could be in a church, school, masonic lodge...wherever. Proceeds of these bake sales will be pooled, (profit only) and sent to a charity of our choosing (it will be put to vote ). The money will be put into a paypal account and sent as one lump sum to this charity.
What this should accomplish is bring the community together, and get some real world stuff going. Real world...obviously, its a bake sale...community...well...this will be the first project where many different people are doing something in different parts of the country or world, and where the results will be pooled and sent to one place as a community. So you see...it kills 2 birds with one stone.
I would like this project to be started in october. The reason being, that it is the beginning of the school year, and for bake sales to work you need other people on board. Most bake sales happen at school, and we want to make sure people have had the chance to build strong friendships and relationships before approaching others with ideas for a bake sale. That way its more likely that those people will be on board. Many people started in new schools this year and I think we have to give them a chance to get to know people before asking them and their parents to commit to a bake sale. Plus it will take us some time to organize this and decide who really is committed.
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Post by Breepop on Sept 26, 2010 20:23:06 GMT -5
Ah, okay.
Well...hmm. Will it all be bake sale-type stuff? Because, iunno, that kinda just isn't my thing. I don't bake and I hate selling stuff. It sounds like an even larger feat to organize a group of people to help me.
Bake sales are usually organized by already established groups of people/clubs/etc. who already have a place to hold the bake sale (or can easily obtain a place, with little or no cost) and the means of making the baked goods. At least in my experience? I dunno, maybe there are individual-run bake sales. :o It just doesn't seem like something I could pull off.
Now, if 5 of you lived near me, as we already apart of a group, I could see myself doing a bake sale. But you don't. :(
Yeah. JUST NOT MY CUP OF TEA, I GUESS.
Due to my laziness and short attention span, I have decided not to read your lengthy post.: Will there be any projects that aren't as bake sale-esque?
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Post by bombmaniac on Sept 26, 2010 21:05:27 GMT -5
well like i said the actual project is up for discussion but for this idea at least it must be something that can be done in the real world (no online projects here) that will raise sufficient funds for charity.
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Post by Joey on Sept 26, 2010 21:24:58 GMT -5
Is it a complete all or nothing deal? Like I probably wont be able to do a bake sale, but other things I could. If so then totally!
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Post by Breepop on Sept 26, 2010 21:43:24 GMT -5
Alright.
Can I sign up later, when I have a better idea of what you guys will be doing? And yeah, what pjpinc123 said. Can we just help out with certain things?
I'm not keen on doing "in real life projects" (at least the ideas that pop into my head for that right now), but you guys may surprise me and do something I'd totally want to be involved with.
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Post by bombmaniac on Sept 26, 2010 21:50:17 GMT -5
like i said that was pasted from a blog, it was not tailor made for this thread. in this thread i would just like to know how much if any time at all people on the moon would be able to devote to real world projects. dont focus on the bake sale, just think about how much time you would be able to devote. and yes. this thread is limited to real world projects only. if you do not have time for such projects or are not inclined to participate in such projects, thats fine, just dont respond to the survey.
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Post by vichilux on Sept 26, 2010 22:05:19 GMT -5
Now, if 5 of you lived near me, as we already apart of a group, I could see myself doing a bake sale. But you don't. :( Well, maybe if we invited our friends to participate, not only SPOTM members, that could be easier...
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Post by bombmaniac on Sept 26, 2010 22:45:11 GMT -5
of course this is not limited to SPOTM. if our aim is to be to change the world, or more realistically to have a positive impact on our communities then we will have to reach beyond SPOTM to the community itself.
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Post by Breepop on Sept 26, 2010 23:02:52 GMT -5
like i said that was pasted from a blog, it was not tailor made for this thread. in this thread i would just like to know how much if any time at all people on the moon would be able to devote to real world projects. dont focus on the bake sale, just think about how much time you would be able to devote. and yes. this thread is limited to real world projects only. if you do not have time for such projects or are not inclined to participate in such projects, thats fine, just dont respond to the survey. I know. But personally, the amount of time I can devote to real world projects varies depending on what the project is. I'm more likely and willing to spend my free time working on a project if the project involves something I really like doing or is for something I really care about. So it's hard for me to answer the survey without having an idea of those things. *shrug*
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Post by bombmaniac on Sept 26, 2010 23:04:43 GMT -5
well, what do you think you would enjoy doing as a real world project?
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Post by Kevak on Sept 27, 2010 8:51:22 GMT -5
I singed up. I am ready to do real-world projects. it's sorta depends what kind though. I like the bake sale idea.
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Post by Ferrrrrre on Sept 27, 2010 9:17:57 GMT -5
But personally, the amount of time I can devote to real world projects varies depending on what the project is. So it's hard for me to answer the survey without having an idea of those things. *shrug* ^ + The only problem I have with these things is; lots of members around here aren't much older than 20, many others still live at home and have to listen/check with parents before doing something.. Okay.. yesh, I'm sure we also have lots of older members who do stuff in the outside world but yah.. i'd love to help but.. the same world we're trying to change and make better is also holding lots of us back.; (school, restrictions, money, personal problems ..) But yeah, if there's a project outside of SPOTM where I can help by spending time on it.. then yeah I can help (e.g. sending something around the world like that project where you needed to take pictures and things from your location and send it to another person..) So I guess we'd better see what kind of active people we've got around here and then start focusing on the what, when and how's.. As for the time part.. my only problem is the fact I don't really know how my time schedule looks like untill two to one week beforehand and even then things could change.. (school; sport; parents, ..) (*random thought.. SPOTM would be so much easier if it was a company (e.g. CollegeHumor) and people said.. it's my job..*)
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Post by bombmaniac on Sept 27, 2010 9:35:31 GMT -5
well, thats why i came up with the bake sale in particular. parents are usually willing to allow their children to make them, and usually participate themselves. but like i said that post was taken off a blog and not tailor made for this thread. what i want in this thread is a general idea of how much time you would have in the event that there was a project you wanted to and in which you were able to participate.
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Post by Ferrrrrre on Sept 27, 2010 10:17:00 GMT -5
^yeah, I know about the bake sale vs. blog thingy but my post wasn't a reply but an obervation since someone has done this before and back then I had the same remark while filling in the form..
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