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Post by Trey on Apr 8, 2010 11:17:37 GMT -5
I like to answer this question in an annoying way. Reptiles are older then chickens. Reptiles lay eggs. Reptile eggs existed before chickens. Therefore the egg came before the chicken. HOWEVER! In the case of Chicken Egg v. Chicken, I am not so sure... Lol, what did that chicken hatch from? It's egg!
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Post by Nakor on Apr 8, 2010 11:43:30 GMT -5
i think being offended at being called an "evolutionist" or a "creationist" is just being petty, its not like someone used a racial slur... It's less about being offended and more about thinking that it's really silly. It'd be like if I said: Well, Australia must be on this side of the planet if you're a flatearthist. But if you're a earthsphereist then yeah, it could be on the other side of the planet. It's just a pointless word.
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Post by dibwys on Apr 8, 2010 11:51:15 GMT -5
The egg. Dinosaurs layed eggs, and they were around way before chickens. + whatever was genetically immediately before the chicken laid an egg, and the offspring inside the egg had mutated into what is now known as a chicken. Chicken comes from egg, perfectly possible to have egg without it being laid from chicken.
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Post by jcunningham23 on May 4, 2010 19:24:58 GMT -5
Words of Wisdom from Luna Lovegood... “Well then, I think the answer is that a circle has no beginning.”
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Post by krzych32 on May 4, 2010 20:19:26 GMT -5
no.....in the beginning there was an egg.....
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Post by newschooled on May 5, 2010 9:32:00 GMT -5
Me thinks two possibilities:
1) Evolution of the chicken came first.
2) The egg came first. And then promptly lit a cigarette and said "I'm sorry baby, I swear that's never happened to me before."
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Post by oodonut on May 16, 2010 9:32:00 GMT -5
to answer this question under the evolutionary theory, you must first ask: at what point did the species become a chicken? there must be a point in time where it would have been hard to tell whether or not the species was even a chicken. Under the theory of ID, it must have been the chicken, unless there are holy incubators that have been lying around the earth since the beginning of time.
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Post by Trey on May 16, 2010 9:56:09 GMT -5
Dude, this thread died a while ago
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Post by thequirkyduo on May 21, 2010 22:00:43 GMT -5
The egg came first. There were eggs before chickens. They may have been eggs from different species, but there were certainly eggs.
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Post by RabbitWho on May 22, 2010 4:36:11 GMT -5
I think it's obvious the chicken came first through evolution. No because a thing that was a slightly earlier chicken but wasn't what we would call a chicken laid an egg which contained the mutation that was the first chicken. So the egg came first and if you believe in evolution there is no other answer! (unless you somehow believe chickens evolved from mammals (!?) )
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Post by darkless on May 22, 2010 8:48:32 GMT -5
The egg but it wasn't necessarily a chicken egg.
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Post by Trey on May 22, 2010 9:43:43 GMT -5
.... Even if it were supposed to be a chicken egg, the chick would have had to come from its egg.
Here's the very brief story of how the chicken came about:
"Not quite a chicken" lays an "almost chicken" egg. "Almost a chicken" pops out of the egg. "Almost a chicken" lays an "actual chicken" egg.<---The timeline speaks the truth. An "actual chicken" pops out of the egg.
The egg came first. Goodbye, end of story. Seeya later dood! GTFO! GOOO AWAAYYY. GO HOME. LET THIS THREAD DIE.
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Post by Danielle on May 22, 2010 10:28:22 GMT -5
Dinosaurs came first.
Dinosaurs lay eggs.
/thread
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Post by Cortney on May 22, 2010 11:19:07 GMT -5
GTFO! GOOO AWAAYYY. GO HOME. LET THIS THREAD DIE. Just because a thread died doesn't mean it can't be bumped if it's a discussion that can still be discussed. Yes, the chicken vs egg discussion is a bit...circular...but there's no reason to force people to stop posting in the thread. If saying that the reptile egg came first ends the thread, then it was over on the last post of the first page. =P
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Post by Trey on May 22, 2010 11:50:06 GMT -5
GTFO! GOOO AWAAYYY. GO HOME. LET THIS THREAD DIE. Just because a thread died doesn't mean it can't be bumped if it's a discussion that can still be discussed. Yes, the chicken vs egg discussion is a bit...circular...but there's no reason to force people to stop posting in the thread. If saying that the reptile egg came first ends the thread, then it was over on the last post of the first page. =P Yes, I know this. What I'm tired of seeing is repetitive posts that don't help the discussion. They're just acting like parrots I put my post there, even though the argument's already been made, for the people who are apparently too lazy to read through the thread before posting. I think Danielle was doing that, too, with the general egg. If they're not being lazy, there are few other reasons for posting such repetitive things; selective memory, short term memory, or mental retardation.
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Post by Nakor on May 22, 2010 11:56:53 GMT -5
Indeed. This thread has been out of fresh discussion material for a while.
Chicken eggs came before chickens because of how evolution works. Lots of not-chicken eggs came before chickens. The first oviparous (egg-laying) creature came before the first egg.
That really ought to wrap it up.
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Post by low on May 23, 2010 0:32:22 GMT -5
Tough to say because it's a misunderstanding that evolution has a grand moment where speciation occurs.
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Post by Nakor on May 23, 2010 1:13:42 GMT -5
The thing is, regardless of which creature you call the first chicken, its own egg must have come before it. Ergo, the point stands regardless of what stage of chickenness you call a chicken.
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Post by redkneehighsocks on May 27, 2010 7:32:15 GMT -5
Primeval ooze. argument solved.
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