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Post by Gesh on Apr 12, 2010 14:15:01 GMT -5
Okay, quick question, I've been wondering about this... how do you join the SPOTM Skype chat? *points to signature* Ooo! Thanks.
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Post by jmejia1187 on Apr 12, 2010 14:23:05 GMT -5
Okay, quick question, I've been wondering about this... how do you join the SPOTM Skype chat? *points to signature* Just ask anyone who is already in the chat to invite you in, in a message. I am jmejia1 on skype so ask me and I will add you Or ask Linus
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Post by click3tyclick on Apr 12, 2010 14:23:12 GMT -5
ohai
I'm an asshole, I know.
I read his posts. All 107 of them. I am not impressed.
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Post by Ferrrrrre on Apr 12, 2010 14:23:34 GMT -5
Congratulations Karson =D
I'm sure someone with a House MD avatar makes a great admin =D
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Post by Yokailo on Apr 12, 2010 14:27:12 GMT -5
ohai I'm an asshole, I know. I read his posts. All 107 of them. I am not impressed. Wth. It's not like you can't be a valuable Admin if you haven't posted the hugest, most intelligent posts in the history of the Pogotribe. From what I could see about Karson - I don't know him that well, I hope to change that soon ^^ - is that he's a great designer. The new skin looks awesome. So I'd say that sure is a quality that can't be expressed through posts - not even in 107 of them. I like seeing new Admin-faces, I hope you won't get too put off by these sceptical people, and good luck as the new Admin, Karson
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Post by click3tyclick on Apr 12, 2010 14:46:56 GMT -5
ohai I'm an asshole, I know. I read his posts. All 107 of them. I am not impressed. Wth. It's not like you can't be a valuable Admin if you haven't posted the hugest, most intelligent posts in the history of the Pogotribe. Unless Karson dramatically changes now that he's an admin, something. He mostly had 1 sentence posts saying "That's a good idea!".
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Post by zAkAtAk on Apr 12, 2010 14:52:41 GMT -5
It's obvious from the second batch of admin apps (the one where we hired the 3) that they don't even look at posts. The more look at what they can bring to the boards and if they agree with them.
Surely you can see that.
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Post by Karson on Apr 12, 2010 15:00:53 GMT -5
Unless Karson dramatically changes now that he's an admin, something. He mostly had 1 sentence posts saying "That's a good idea!". Thanks... I would like to think of myself as more of a technical person that makes things beautiful and easier for people. I am a quiet person, though I will work on changing that and expanding on some of my posts in the future. I have great ideas on how to change the moon for the better. Don’t count me out just because my posts are short and simple.
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Post by click3tyclick on Apr 12, 2010 15:02:48 GMT -5
Unless Karson dramatically changes now that he's an admin, something. He mostly had 1 sentence posts saying "That's a good idea!". Thanks... I would like to think of myself as more of a technical person that makes things beautiful and easier for people. I am a quiet person, though I will work on changing that and expanding on some of my posts in the future. I have great ideas on how to change the moon for the better. Don’t count me out just because my posts are short and simple. Hey, I'm not saying I don't like you or anything. I'm just pointing out that untill now, your contributions to the forum have been minimal. However, that's likely to change now that you're an admin.
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Post by Breepop on Apr 12, 2010 15:17:41 GMT -5
I don't think people are upset with the decision, they just want to know what it's based off of. Perhaps they want to work on these qualities? Sure some are jealous, which is human nature, but I think mostly people, for what ever reason just want to know the criteria. There's a reason we didn't lay out every. single. quality. and every. single. requirement. and there's a reason we aren't doing it now. We decided to give as little context as possible so people would be themselves. We don't want a bunch of BSers only pretending to be what we want. Also, we don't want someone who has to "work on these qualities." They should already have them. They might not be adding more admins, but they will be adding moderators in the future. Moderators will not be chosen by the admins, though. No position, besides admins, will be chosen by us alone. I think they're talking about how for some reason, the admins have been very secretive about the future of the Pogotribe. They're very secretive about everything now. Why they choose administrators, and even the smallest changes. Openness and community involvement should be a priority, and it was in the early days. But now the admins have become a sort of exclusive club, moving the tribe along without telling any of us. Not that the admins are doing a bad job or anything. In fact, i've never seen a forum so large that has barely any spam on it. If anything has been kept secret, it's because it needs to be kept secret (in order to be planned out etc. -- throwing around information before we know anything is concrete would just be crazy). But honestly, I don't think much has been kept secret. And what "small changes" have we kept secret? Srsly lol wut. Maybe you guys are imagining more secrets than there really are. We're not doing anything without telling you. We may be planning things without telling you, but that has to be done. You'd be amazed how many times we've changed plans or came up with better ideas for something. If we told 5 people the old thing and then 10 people the next thing and then 7 people the actual thing, wtf? That'd just be ... wtf? I mean, seriously. That is not how things work. ohai I'm an asshole, I know. I read his posts. All 107 of them. I am not impressed. Posts aren't everything. At all. Frej rarely ever posts, but he's still a great admin. P.S. You said it, not me. And I really, really want to put this out there, since everyone seems to think we chose Karson because he is making the new layout: I loved Karson before I saw any of his work. He was one of my top choices when we were picking the first three new admins. And quite frankly, even his response to the "denial" e-mail in the first round was perfect. It wasn't until the entire process was complete that he even PMed me a sample of the layout. I am absolutely delighted that he got to fill that 4th spot, 'cause he's an amazing addition to the team in many ways. Personally, I am very, very disappointed with a lot of responses in this thread. If you show everyone else respect, you should show the admins respect, too. Since when it is okay to say you are "not impressed" with someone's posts? It is fine to be jealous (Cameron has admitted tons that he's jealous, and I love him to death), but that is taking it way too far. Even if some of you did not mean to insult Karson, you have. This is supposed to be his congratulatory thread, and all some of you are doing is questioning our judgement. Would you go to someone's wedding reception and bombard the bride with questions like, "OMFG, why did you pick him to marry?" No, you sure as hell wouldn't.
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Post by Breepop on Apr 12, 2010 15:18:27 GMT -5
Unless Karson dramatically changes now that he's an admin, something. He mostly had 1 sentence posts saying "That's a good idea!". Oh wow. Have I mentioned how disappointed I am in these responses? Wow.
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Post by click3tyclick on Apr 12, 2010 15:22:26 GMT -5
Unless Karson dramatically changes now that he's an admin, something. He mostly had 1 sentence posts saying "That's a good idea!". Oh wow. Have I mentioned how disappointed I am in these responses? Wow. Yes.
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Post by zAkAtAk on Apr 12, 2010 15:42:48 GMT -5
Personally, I am very, very disappointed with a lot of responses in this thread. If you show everyone else respect, you should show the admins respect, too. Since when it is okay to say you are "not impressed" with someone's posts? It is fine to be jealous (Cameron has admitted tons that he's jealous, and I love him to death), but that is taking it way too far You can't demand respect. You can ask of it, but you should never demand it unless you are in a position of high authority such as a principal or a manager. I will show the admins as much respect as I do for every other member. Just because you're name is flashy does not mean I am going to give you special treatment. You are not a celebrity nor are you a source of great power. You are simply on a higher pedestal, while also doing some background work. Still saying that the maximum amount of admins should be 3, but hey who cares. It's just SPOTM.
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Post by Breepop on Apr 12, 2010 15:45:47 GMT -5
You can't demand respect. You can ask of it, but you should never demand it unless you are in a position of high authority such as a principal or a manager. I will show the admins as much respect as I do for every other member. Just because you're name is flashy does not mean I am going to give you special treatment. You are not a celebrity nor are you a source of great power. You are simply on a higher pedestal, while also doing some background work. Um... "If you show everyone else respect, you should show the admins respect, too."? Where did I 'demand' any more respect? I asked for the same amount of respect to be shown to admins that is shown to other members...
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Post by zAkAtAk on Apr 12, 2010 15:46:38 GMT -5
Implied.
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Post by Breepop on Apr 12, 2010 15:48:52 GMT -5
Really? 'Cause I'm pretty sure I made a point of wording it so I didn't imply admins deserved more respect, only an equal amount.
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Post by zAkAtAk on Apr 12, 2010 15:51:03 GMT -5
I guess the pissed off girl in my head that read that forced a little umph in it.
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Post by Linus on Apr 12, 2010 15:58:55 GMT -5
There's a reason we didn't lay out every. single. quality. and every. single. requirement. and there's a reason we aren't doing it now. Still, one could ask for a little more insight... at least a small blurb as to why the admin was chosen. And this isn't really about Karson, you should've been able to figure that out. He just happened to be the current example. I'm sure he's cool. It's about the secrecy of the process in general.
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Post by Breepop on Apr 12, 2010 16:21:05 GMT -5
Still, one could ask for a little more insight... at least a small blurb as to why the admin was chosen. And this isn't really about Karson, you should've been able to figure that out. He just happened to be the current example. I'm sure he's cool. It's about the secrecy of the process in general. After you were given a "small blurb," you still prodded for more, though. I know it's not. But that doesn't matter. This is his thread. It would have been fine had you made a new thread about it, but you didn't. You're invading his thread, so you've made it about Karson. We purposely decided to fill the process with secrecy, though. We had our reasons, which I've already listed. Ultimately, this process and who we chose was completely up to us. I mean, unless you suspect us of just randomly choosing someone with no second thoughts, I see no reason why we need to sit here and list the reasons why we chose someone. The process had nothing to do with anyone but the current admins. Do you really distrust us that much?
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Post by Sean on Apr 12, 2010 17:26:20 GMT -5
Comon guys! Seriously, this is level 2 tribal level at best... PLEASE can we just stop with the questions, how would you like it if it was your birthday and everyone was more interested in asking you parents why the hell they gave birth to you over talking to you... (Edit: Hmm... sounds like a bad example... oh well, you get my point)
Karson is a good choice, and now you have ternd a "Congratulations thread" into a "This place sux, why you not choose me" thread...
And also, leave Bree alone! She is not forcing respect, just trying to keep you ppl under control because you all seem to think that because Karson bribed his way in or anything like that, I dont know why you are mad??? . As was said this is not a good way to get to a level 4 tribe and if you are going to act like that then just don't post...
As has been said before: This thread is a NICE thread for congratulating others... PLEASE keep it to that and that only!
THANK YOU
p.s - Congrats Karson
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