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Post by jeradjones on Jun 5, 2010 22:43:30 GMT -5
I'm very curious to the thoughts of cyberbullying. My personal opinion is to not take it seriously. If you truly know internet culture, then you'd understand most cyberbullies are just trolls looking for attention, yet people kill themselves over this thinking the trolls, or cyberbullies, are serious. Examples of suicides: poverty.suite101.com/article.cfm/cyber_bullying_can_killwww.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/us_and_americas/article5196441.eceSome cases of cyberbullying are extreme, but the majority of cases in my opinion are very mild (Ex.- People using derogatory statements like "Fat" "Ugly" or any racial slurs). Do you believe cyberbullying is a serious issue, or should it just be ignored?
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Post by KipEnyan on Jun 5, 2010 22:46:31 GMT -5
My philosophy on cyberbullying is that unless you're in any kind of real danger, either grow a pair or get off the intrawebz.
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Post by jeradjones on Jun 5, 2010 22:48:42 GMT -5
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Post by Joey on Jun 5, 2010 23:31:56 GMT -5
Oof. Okay this one hits home. One of my close friends was the recieving end of cyberbullying. A jerk in our class started a facebook group about hurt my friend. They put pictures of him up and called him names at first, and it was a blow off thing. But then they went further and asked for people to help collect things to hurt this kid. They also posted up his address, phone number, what his house looked like, his email. They sent messages that said they were going to hurt him after school with "knives and fists". Our principal caught this and expelled the kid, but my friends rest of grade school was miserable. Me and two other kids were his only friends, and everyone though that this kid was a baby, because they hadent been told about the emails, and thought he was telling because of a "little joke"
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Post by jeradjones on Jun 5, 2010 23:47:46 GMT -5
Oof. Okay this one hits home. One of my close friends was the recieving end of cyberbullying. A jerk in our class started a facebook group about hurt my friend. They put pictures of him up and called him names at first, and it was a blow off thing. But then they went further and asked for people to help collect things to hurt this kid. They also posted up his address, phone number, what his house looked like, his email. They sent messages that said they were going to hurt him after school with "knives and fists". Our principal caught this and expelled the kid, but my friends rest of grade school was miserable. Me and two other kids were his only friends, and everyone though that this kid was a baby, because they hadent been told about the emails, and thought he was telling because of a "little joke" That's a true form of cyberbullying though. Most people claimed to be "cyberbullied" when all that truly happened was either name calling or mocking the person, and that's one thing I'm curious about. Let's say you were on Omegle or Chatroulette and somebody kept mocking out about one of your physical features such as your face or body. Would you consider that "true cyberbullying" or just people being stupid?
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Post by Joey on Jun 5, 2010 23:55:52 GMT -5
Oof. Okay this one hits home. One of my close friends was the recieving end of cyberbullying. A jerk in our class started a facebook group about hurt my friend. They put pictures of him up and called him names at first, and it was a blow off thing. But then they went further and asked for people to help collect things to hurt this kid. They also posted up his address, phone number, what his house looked like, his email. They sent messages that said they were going to hurt him after school with "knives and fists". Our principal caught this and expelled the kid, but my friends rest of grade school was miserable. Me and two other kids were his only friends, and everyone though that this kid was a baby, because they hadent been told about the emails, and thought he was telling because of a "little joke" That's a true form of cyberbullying though. Most people claimed to be "cyberbullied" when all that truly happened was either name calling or mocking the person, and that's one thing I'm curious about. Let's say you were on Omegle or Chatroulette and somebody kept mocking out about one of your physical features such as your face or body. Would you consider that "true cyberbullying" or just people being stupid? 1)chatroulette is full of weiners 2)I would count it as people being jealous of my good looks 3) that means I would call it people beig stupid
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Post by jeradjones on Jun 6, 2010 0:25:56 GMT -5
That's a true form of cyberbullying though. Most people claimed to be "cyberbullied" when all that truly happened was either name calling or mocking the person, and that's one thing I'm curious about. Let's say you were on Omegle or Chatroulette and somebody kept mocking out about one of your physical features such as your face or body. Would you consider that "true cyberbullying" or just people being stupid? 1)chatroulette is full of weiners 2)I would count it as people being jealous of my good looks 3) that means I would call it people beig stupid I get on that website sometimes just to see how people react when I make fun of them. Most just skip to the next just, but some stay and start to argue with me. If I so-called "cyberbully", I do it as a joke. At the end I'll tell them the whole thing was a joke. Heck, I even do it on Facebook sometimes just to irritate people. Ex. *girl posts as status* Today sucked. We lost our volleyball game *I post* Music please....... DA DA DA DA DA DA It's sucks to be youuu!!! *girl replies* STFU it's not funny *I reply* You lost, so it's funny. *girl replies* No, it was the stupid ref. The other team bribed him or something. *I reply* So now you blame the ref because you fail at a sport? Sad sad.... *girl replies* SHUT UP OR I'M DELETING YOU FROM MY FRIENDS!!!! *I reply* Relax, it was a joke. I was kidding. *girl replies* Oh Unless it's to the point where people are calling the pizza companies to order you pizza, threatening to kill you (if they know you in real life. If they don't then the tough guy is just making threats over the internet. Whooo, scary ), or people are posting your personal information all over the internet, I say cyberbullying is nothing more than a joke.
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Post by thequirkyduo on Jun 6, 2010 1:23:19 GMT -5
I think cyber-bullying is ridiculous. People will make fun of people, whether it is online or in person - they will find a way to tease/harass/torment/etc. if they want to. I am not disagreeing that on occasion, cyber-bullying can be a problem, I am simply saying that taking something that happens on the internet. In a public forum. Should not have consequences on others in the 'real world.' For example, there are instances of people getting expelled from, or suspended from school, due to squabbles that occur on the internet. This, I think is wrong.
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Post by jeradjones on Jun 6, 2010 9:04:51 GMT -5
What do you consider to be cyberbullying though? How far do you have to go to call it cyberbullying?
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Post by click3tyclick on Jun 6, 2010 11:01:11 GMT -5
either grow a pair or get off the intrawebz.
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Post by metallica210 on Jun 6, 2010 11:25:43 GMT -5
if it is a threat, then it is cyberbullying. if it is just name calling, grow a pair or get off the intrawebz.
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Post by RandiKthxxx on Jun 6, 2010 12:00:28 GMT -5
Why talk SHIRT over the Internet in the first place?
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Post by Danielle on Jun 6, 2010 12:33:00 GMT -5
This is kind of a little unrelated. It was a case of "cyber bullying," that my high school got involved in.
When I was a junior in high school a freshman brought in a thermos of rum and coffee into school. She passed it around to about a dozen other students. A handful became drunk by lunch time.
A friend of mine blogs. She doesn't usually do personal blogs on her website, but she wrote a, in my opinion, well articulated blog about the event. She only used the girl's first name. She's very private in her blogging life, so none of her regular readers know the town she lives in or the high school to which she went.
She said stuff like, her actions were irresponsible, it brings a really bad image to high schoolers in her area, her punishment[three days suspension and night school for a week] wasn't nearly enough especially since the police were never involved, etc. Just her observations on the event.
Shortly after that girl or one of her friends found Ellen's blog. She was given five days of detention and the SCHOOL ADMINISTRATION had her make a formal apology in written form to the girl and her family.
They said it was cyber bullying and they would not stand for it.
The way my high school reacted to that still pisses me off.
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Post by Lex on Jun 6, 2010 12:41:23 GMT -5
There's a difference. If they actually know each other IRL, and there's continuous harassment over Facebook or email or something, then that's cyberbullying.
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Post by bathanie on Jun 6, 2010 12:54:17 GMT -5
I don't believe cyberbullying is an ISSUE as much now as it was before. Usually if somebody takes their life because of it, most likely it's not JUST the cyberbullying that lead to their decisions. There's in-school, out of school, verbal abuse, and many other kinds of bullying that equally add to this dilemma. It should be not much more important to work on getting rid of cyberbullying as the other forms of bullying as well.
& plus, trolls are always going to be here. in the ohso famous internet safety rules there should be "do not provide trolls with the lulz. suck it up."(:
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Post by KipEnyan on Jun 6, 2010 13:53:57 GMT -5
Danielle Yeah, I also find that to be a ridiculous overreaction, if reaction was even warranted at all. Commentary and opinion, if no direct harm is intended from them, should never be punished. That is, by far, not cyberbullying. As to the debate, true cyberbullying could be a very bad thing. But I think "true cyberbullying" is fairly rare and would be more aptly described as threats covered under harassment and coercion statutes of state and national law. Name-calling and the like are just kids being kids, and internet douches being internet douches. Whether it's IRL or online makes no difference. In fact, online forms are even more laughable as they are impossibly easy to ignore and block on the modern internet. To summarize and repeat for great justice: Unless you're in any kind of real danger, either grow a pair or get off the intrawebz.
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Post by RandiKthxxx on Jun 6, 2010 14:05:12 GMT -5
I don't believe that any type of bullying should be tolerated. But like it has been said before, we've gotta really define what you'd call "cyberbullying" because of course Danielle's case definitely isn't cyberbullying, but then you've got Picnic's case which is absolutely ridiculous. No one should ever have to go through that.
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Post by jeradjones on Jun 6, 2010 14:17:17 GMT -5
This is slightly off topic, but when I was younger and my parents had a lot more rules about the internet (ex. No using Myspace, Never go to any type of chatroom, don't download files without their permission) they told me it was for my own protection. I didn't understand why, and they said people on the internet can find out and hurt you in real life if you give out personal information. I kind of always pictured the guys in the internet who would do that like this: tinypic.com/view.php?pic=2qdpu2u&s=6Note: At the time I had no clue WTF a pedophile was. Then I found out about my old youth pastor being one and I was freaked out.
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Post by The Monster on Jun 6, 2010 19:26:10 GMT -5
Why talk SHIRT over the Internet in the first place? Boredom is a beautiful thing my friend...considering the amount of ridiculous crap (websites) and people which use the internet to pass the time I'm not surprised this is going on. And I think people continue to do this because they feel as if they are somehow relieved of social constraints, in regards to what they can say/do. This I believe in part influences people to act without thinking (due to the fact that, that person isn't present to react; which in part influences the imposers feelings towards the person to remain the same (oppose to guilty)- Cause no right minded person would say these things to random people on the street. Also people are continually encouraged to do this because of the internet's low amount of regulation (cause anyone can just come up with a fake name/address)
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Post by jeradjones on Jun 7, 2010 0:55:44 GMT -5
I think people troll or "cyberbully" because it makes them feel powerful.
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