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Post by jmejia1187 on Jul 10, 2010 12:30:22 GMT -5
I wasn't really trying hard, but a screenshot is attached. 56WPM. I also believe that I type faster when I know what I am going to type in my hear rather than typing and reading what I need to type at the same time. Attachments:
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Post by Deleted on Jul 10, 2010 12:47:35 GMT -5
I know a technology class is required in most schools, but I know my class was extremely...90s. I can relate to this... We had an advanced graphic / web design class, so I thought we'd be using Adobe Photoshop / Illustrator / Flash / Dreamweaver throughout the semester (remember, this is a high school). No, we were using Microsoft Publisher 2001 to create birthday cards and small fliers... There wasn't even any web design in the course. Also, this was last year, 2009-2010.
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Post by rialvestro on Jul 10, 2010 13:14:38 GMT -5
Actually I don't see the point of knowing how to type. The only reason for it is that it's suppose to be faster than the hunt and peck method but I don't see how that's true.
With hunt and peck you can actually see the key board when you need to and just freaking look to see what the heck you're typing. You make allot less typos when you're looking to make sure you're hitting the right key than if you're going on memory to know where the keys are. Also it's just allot more comfortable to hunt and peck than it is to have my hands in the proper typing position. It just feels really awkward to type rather than hunt and peck so not only do I have to rely on memory to know where the keys are but I have to hit each key with a sertain finger? Especially when it's the pinky finger because that's completly useless anyway and the pinky and ring finger tend to move togeather. It's difficult to move them individually, don't know why, it just is.
Anyway... I've had to do typing classes sense 6th grade but in the big computer labs the teacher can't watch everybody at the same time. Me a couple friends next to me figured out that we only need to type proper when the teacher was actually looking at us and got pretty good at switching to the proper position fairly quickly. However I also noticed that every time I did this I'd type slower than if I was hunting and pecking. And even compairing to other students I could hunt and peck faster than anyone could type.
In fact to this day I still hunt and peck pretty damn fast. There are only a small number of people who can actually type faster than me and their hands look like a freaking blurr when they type so you couldn't even tell to look at them if they type proper or not. My bet is they don't.
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Post by low on Jul 10, 2010 13:30:29 GMT -5
I consider clarity and conciseness to be very important in language. Typing, along with proper grammar, falls into the category of clarity, but words per minute should be irrelevant. If Jack conveys 10 ideas in 40 words at a speed of 40 words per minute and John conveys 10 ideas in 200 words at a speed of 200 words per minute, then Jack, practically speaking, types just as fast as John. Jack's message will also be read more quickly than John's, making it preferable.
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Post by jord150 on Jul 10, 2010 17:48:19 GMT -5
Typing is almost a necessity to most people living in the world's developed countries right now. Learning to type efficiently is important because of that. I definitely think typing should be mandatory at schools. No doubt about it.
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Post by Zach on Jul 10, 2010 19:10:09 GMT -5
After taking the test, I would say Yes, lol.
34 WPM. Damn, I'm pro. ;D
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Post by Nakor on Jul 10, 2010 19:31:43 GMT -5
Actually I don't see the point of knowing how to type. The only reason for it is that it's suppose to be faster than the hunt and peck method but I don't see how that's true. With hunt and peck you can actually see the key board when you need to and just freaking look to see what the heck you're typing. You make allot less typos when you're looking to make sure you're hitting the right key than if you're going on memory to know where the keys are. Also it's just allot more comfortable to hunt and peck than it is to have my hands in the proper typing position. It just feels really awkward to type rather than hunt and peck so not only do I have to rely on memory to know where the keys are but I have to hit each key with a sertain finger? Especially when it's the pinky finger because that's completly useless anyway and the pinky and ring finger tend to move togeather. It's difficult to move them individually, don't know why, it just is. Anyway... I've had to do typing classes sense 6th grade but in the big computer labs the teacher can't watch everybody at the same time. Me a couple friends next to me figured out that we only need to type proper when the teacher was actually looking at us and got pretty good at switching to the proper position fairly quickly. However I also noticed that every time I did this I'd type slower than if I was hunting and pecking. And even compairing to other students I could hunt and peck faster than anyone could type. In fact to this day I still hunt and peck pretty damn fast. There are only a small number of people who can actually type faster than me and their hands look like a freaking blurr when they type so you couldn't even tell to look at them if they type proper or not. My bet is they don't. Trust me, there are limits on how far hunt-and-peck can get you. Once you get used to normal typing positions it starts to feel a lot more natural. I've heard -- rarely -- of people getting upward of 50wpm or so using hunt-and-peck, but any more than that requires the ability to use all your fingers and to actually have the key positions memorized. You will be slower at first as you learn -- it takes a while to learn the keys and develop the muscle memory -- but it's a lot faster in the end. No, typing is something you can easily learn on your own. I had multiple typing classes and none of them did a bit of good for me. No matter what it seems I'm only capable of typing with my two index fingers, and by the way asshole, I'm still kinda fast so suck it, and only specific jobs require the ability to type fast, which is something you can learn in the classes you take for that career. I've seen similar arguments for other things. If a certain class is ineffective I don't think that it automatically follows that the class shouldn't exist. In many though not all cases it would make more sense to first see if there's any way the class can be improved so that it is helpful. Only if it's deemed unimportant (or not sufficiently worth the effort to correct), or simply not possible to improve with the available resources, should it simply be dropped.
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Post by Ryan on Jul 10, 2010 22:47:12 GMT -5
just wondering - all of you people who type with 8 fingers, how do you hit the space bar? (I'm fairly certain you use 9 fingers)
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Post by James McClelland on Jul 10, 2010 23:02:43 GMT -5
just wondering - all of you people who type with 8 fingers, how do you hit the space bar? (I'm fairly certain you use 9 fingers) We use our thumbs...?
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Post by jmejia1187 on Jul 11, 2010 0:33:12 GMT -5
just wondering - all of you people who type with 8 fingers, how do you hit the space bar? (I'm fairly certain you use 9 fingers) They dont use their pinky fingers...
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Post by redkneehighsocks on Jul 11, 2010 2:53:56 GMT -5
we have a six week typing course at our school. i still dont touch type, but i use more tha just my two index fingers.
i use the index finger on my left hand, and all my fingers on the right. I still type moderatley fast.
it is important to at least learn more than "pecking" if you use a keyboard anywhere in your proffesion.
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Post by Ryan on Jul 11, 2010 3:55:35 GMT -5
just wondering - all of you people who type with 8 fingers, how do you hit the space bar? (I'm fairly certain you use 9 fingers) They dont use their pinky fingers... HUH?!?!?!?! How do you not use your pinky fingers? they hit all the important letters/keys such as 'a', "'", '"', "/", and most importantly "Enter". Also important for capitalization, and tabbing.
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Post by RandiKthxxx on Jul 11, 2010 8:47:01 GMT -5
I use my ring fingers for that stuff. Idk why.
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Post by Benyamin on Jul 11, 2010 9:29:00 GMT -5
Pointer, middle, index, and pinky on A,S,D,F, J, K, L, and ; for me. I hit spacebar with my thumb and use my pinky for what tyme said
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Post by Trey on Jul 11, 2010 9:51:48 GMT -5
just wondering - all of you people who type with 8 fingers, how do you hit the space bar? (I'm fairly certain you use 9 fingers) They dont use their pinky fingers... *Facepalm*
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Post by thequirkyduo on Jul 11, 2010 10:01:40 GMT -5
Typing should have a greater emphasis in schools, sure, but lets not forget about the importance of handwriting.
For example, my little sister was in a program where they focussed more on math and science throughout elementary school. She not once had a handwriting class, and even though she's 12 now, her handwriting is still atrocious. So, although typing is a valuable skill to have - if we forget the importance of the alternative, people will suffer just as much when searching for jobs. Besides, what employer is going to hire someone when their handwriting is so bad that they can't read their application?
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Post by Trey on Jul 11, 2010 10:15:27 GMT -5
just wondering - all of you people who type with 8 fingers, how do you hit the space bar? (I'm fairly certain you use 9 fingers) Also, I use my pointer finger to use the spacebar. I wonder.. If I practiced using all of my fingers, plus my thumb, would my typing speed increase by 30WPM?
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Post by James McClelland on Jul 11, 2010 13:15:07 GMT -5
They dont use their pinky fingers... HUH?!?!?!?! How do you not use your pinky fingers? they hit all the important letters/keys such as 'a', "'", '"', "/", and most importantly "Enter". Also important for capitalization, and tabbing. I use my ring fingers only for keys like Shift, Ctrl, Enter, Tab, and Caps lock. I use my Ring fingers for everything else you said.
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Post by Alex on Jul 11, 2010 13:42:23 GMT -5
I type using 4 fingers and get 40-50 wpm. I just suck at typing, and going so long without learning the proper method, I really am stuck like this unless I force myself to do it for months. I just suck at typing, mainly.
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Post by rialvestro on Jul 11, 2010 18:13:21 GMT -5
I consider clarity and conciseness to be very important in language. Typing, along with proper grammar, falls into the category of clarity, but words per minute should be irrelevant. If Jack conveys 10 ideas in 40 words at a speed of 40 words per minute and John conveys 10 ideas in 200 words at a speed of 200 words per minute, then Jack, practically speaking, types just as fast as John. Jack's message will also be read more quickly than John's, making it preferable. That doesn't make any sense. Typing vs. Hunt and peck has nothing at all to do with clarity and the reason speed is relevant is because it's about how quickly you can get your work done on a dead line. If two people are typing out the same assignment the person who types the fastest is more likely to get said assignment turned in on time while a slower typist is more likely to fall behind on their work and even the possibility of never getting anything finished at all. It just seems to me like it would be easier to get faster at something that already comes natural than to try to get faster at something that seems awkward and slows you down. I mean just because you're using all your fingers doesn't actually mean it's faster than if you only use two. There are allot of variables to make things faster or slower not just how many fingers you're using to type with.
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