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Post by Benyamin on Jul 11, 2010 11:48:56 GMT -5
yeah me too
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Post by parad0x on Jul 11, 2010 13:48:41 GMT -5
Doodlebug was the name of a boy in the MOVIE days of our lives.
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Post by low on Jul 11, 2010 14:51:18 GMT -5
I think there deeper thoughts to be had about the potential for the project. He has a budget, which expands what he can potentially do, but I believe he now also has the emotional motivation to do things he may not otherwise have done. That emotional motivation from the community is the same sort of motivation that causes college students to not bother with in depth research for debates in Youtube comments and messageboards but bother with it for school assignments. What we're (hopefully) doing is creating an environment where an individual feels responsibility for virtually everything he does and I believe will show something about what ordinary people (or at least people who are presumably very bright but not geniuses) are capable of doing. Maybe that's over-thinking it, but I'm nearly certain I'll be at least mildly entertained if not impressed.
Consider limits we can push Dan to: Can he be published in a peer-reviewed journal? Can he run a marathon in under 3 hours?
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Post by AMagicalCat on Jul 11, 2010 16:03:44 GMT -5
you know people, Dan himself is not the limit here, we are! If we suggest good Ideas, he will do good things, If we suggest bad Ideas, the project will also be bad!
IT'S ALL UP TO US!
But I think we'll get more information about the practical details when we get closer to the starting date, but don't you think Dan has thought about all this and found a solution? He has used half a year just prepearing for this guys! And he's not stupid!
On the other side... I like to decide things for myself, I think Dan 3.0 is kinda like him being a Zombie... so I thought he didn't like zombies... :/
DAN PDBAZ!
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Post by KipEnyan on Jul 11, 2010 17:05:54 GMT -5
Dan 3.0 is not like Dan being a zombie. I hate when people interpret PDBAZ as literally "You can never do what other people tell you, only what you tell yourself."
On that note, I am markedly ambivalent about this "project". I'll probably get flamed for this, and maybe rightfully so, but I think the community at large isn't intelligent enough to make this work. I think a lot of the frequent posters on SPOTM may be thoughtful enough to make reasonable suggestions and to take steps towards worldsuck elimination, but we need to remember that Dan has thousands upon thousands of subscribers, and you can bet your ass that when a lot of those people (mostly kids) hear "Hey! Control a celebrity's life for a year!", SHIRT's gonna go down.
I realize there are failsafes in place, like the voting system, and probably other unspoken measures taken by Dan, but I still feel like Nick's initial post holds A LOT of water. Even if the suggestions aren't malicious persay (And they won't be, those will be voted down/removed), where does the line draw between feasibility and the whole GOAL of the project? I mean, if something that Dan can't really do gets voted to the top, does Dan just go "No, sorry, can't do that." and take the next highest suggestion? If so, what kind of Pandora's box does that open for objections and the like? I don't know.
The project has potential. I don't think anybody denies that. I'm just afraid of where that potential could go.
Due to my laziness and short attention span, I have decided not to read your lengthy post.: Kill yourself.
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Post by nickgreyden on Jul 11, 2010 17:41:14 GMT -5
No I really don't and I'll tell you why. All we have heard from is people talk about how awesome the idea is. No one has stepped forward until this announcement has been made to say negative things about it. So no, I do not think that Dan has thought "about all that and found a solution". While I do hold Dan up to not being stupid, I do think he is an idealist like oh so many people here on SPOTM. While idealists are very very important to this community and the world as a whole, in the land of idealists, I am a realist. I've said many times before that my main contribution to the world at large is not ideas, but instead taking those ideas and putting them to the test. If the idea cannot hold water after my own slings and arrows, imagine what happens when others jump on as well.
This I agree with. However, I'm with bomb when I say I am more concerned with the wasted potential.
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Post by zAkAtAk on Jul 12, 2010 7:20:36 GMT -5
I love how everyone is making letters to Dan and posts directed at Dan like he's going to read them. He might have logged in, but that doesn't mean anything. He hasn't responded to a post in over a month.
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Post by amazingproductions on Jul 12, 2010 9:11:31 GMT -5
KipEnyan, I'm sort of worried about that too =/
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Post by nickgreyden on Jul 12, 2010 14:20:35 GMT -5
In hopes he might read them, however Zak remember the old saying "If you can't take the heat stay out of the kitchen"?
... well
Edit: When some people get their ideas melted down by trolls, they refuse to lend credence to the arugement by posting in threads or appearing on shows/networks etc. In some cases, the ideas do not hold water and cannot be defended. In this case, he is being called on to defend what he has politically promised us and explain himself. We shall see.
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Post by ItsCarterYo on Jul 12, 2010 14:53:39 GMT -5
A couple things. We can not decide if he dumps or marries Danielle because in the private meet up at vidcon he said that he will not do anything that involves his family which he said includes Danielle.
There is SO LITTLE we know about the project and EVERY OBSTACLE that you have thought of dan has SURELY thought of considerig he has had 8 months (not 2 days) to think this over. You see, we only have about 2 minutes worth of video on this subject and know hardly ANYTHING about Dan 3.0 so until Dan's video about it comes out, all the things we are asking and worrying about could be cleared up and he probably has a solution to them.
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Post by nickgreyden on Jul 12, 2010 16:58:53 GMT -5
EVERY OBSTACLE that you have thought of dan has SURELY thought of considerig he has had 8 months (not 2 days) to think this over. By this logic, the project is already a failure because in my 31+ years of experience + everyone elses experience/ideas do not equal more than dan's experience/ideas. Thank you for making my point. Throwing that logic out the window, I also bring you back to the point I have not heard one person say anything bad about this project until it was announced. Therefore, I can only assume everyone was all fanboi trippy on it and followed the crowd of OMG WHAT A GREAT IDEA!!!!111ONE (Note: this was a broad generalization to everyone with advanced knowledge, not a a statement of fact about everyone. after all, someone has to start the crowd :-) ) This too. You don't know Dan Brown.... nor do I. Venturing a complete guess I'm estimating around 400 videos at about and average of 4 mins a peice to be roughly 26 hrs worth of video. This is him with the rubiks cube, random thoughts, him being silly, and most importantly, his camera face. Also our collective 2 mins among 3000 people registered to this fourm is 100hrs of thoughts, oppsoed to the 26 hrs of "Getting to know Dan" video you have yourself.... just some numbers to chew on.
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Post by ItsCarterYo on Jul 12, 2010 17:07:36 GMT -5
This too. You don't know Dan Brown.... nor do I. Venturing a complete guess I'm estimating around 400 videos at about and average of 4 mins a peice to be roughly 26 hrs worth of video. This is him with the rubiks cube, random thoughts, him being silly, and most importantly, his camera face. Also our collective 2 mins among 3000 people registered to this fourm is 100hrs of thoughts, oppsoed to the 26 hrs of "Getting to know Dan" video you have yourself.... just some numbers to chew on. What i meant was that he hardly know ANY details about the project. We only know the jist of it. He will explain the details and the restrictions and rules in upcoming videos so many of the things we are arguing about could be invalid.
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Post by click3tyclick on Jul 12, 2010 17:22:33 GMT -5
many of the things we are arguing about could be invalid. Highly doubt it. People aren't arguing about the small details.
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