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Post by amon91 on Sept 29, 2010 15:41:00 GMT -5
I love this debate back and forth and let me just put this as simply as possible as no one seems to have done it: if it ain't broken don't fix it. Aside from all ethical and ideological problems, circumcision in the end is a painful and unneeded procedure. In Europe and pretty much everywhere in the world at this point (aside from the US and countries where circ is a rooted religious practice), the vast majority of men have a foreskin and live perfectly sound and healthy lives, sexually and otherwise.
Debates on whether it's ethical or not for the baby to get part of his skin and muscular tissue chopped off at birth (which by the way, I absolutely think it's NOT) are irrelevant, because it's an UNNEEDED procedure that's being done less and less. But in the US, as with way too many things, people just won't get over it.
*cough*for-profit health insurance who actually profits from this painful and unneeded procedure?*cough*
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Post by James McClelland on Sept 29, 2010 19:51:06 GMT -5
My overall opinion is: it's the norm. You could walk around with a giant beard and caveman clothing but people are gonna think you look funny.
And how could someone circumcised want an uncircumcised penis? They have no idea if it would be any better or not, and their problem with their dick is probably a stupid one anyway.
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Post by rialvestro on Sept 29, 2010 20:32:22 GMT -5
My overall opinion is: it's the norm. You could walk around with a giant beard and caveman clothing but people are gonna think you look funny. And how could someone circumcised want an uncircumcised penis? They have no idea if it would be any better or not, and their problem with their dick is probably a stupid one anyway. Why should I care if other people think I look funny? If it makes me happy to look like a cave man then screw them. Just because it's normal doesn't make it OK, I hate normal anyway, normal is boring. Different is the way to be. How could someone uncircumcised want a circumcised penis? They have no idea if it would be any better or not, and their problem with their dick is probably a stupid one anyway. Your argument was ass backwards so I fixed it for you. Let me ask you something. If it's OK to cut off someone's foreskin just because it looks better and that's the norm then why stop there. Lots of celebrities are getting lots of plastic surgery now days. How about we make it so everyone has to get plastic surgery so we all look like Brad Pit and Angelina Jolie? Would that be OK with you?
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Post by James McClelland on Sept 29, 2010 21:01:14 GMT -5
Woah woah woah woah. Don't compare cutting an ugly piece of skin to plastic surgery, they're totally different body modifications.
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Post by amon91 on Sept 30, 2010 3:35:27 GMT -5
My overall opinion is: it's the norm. You could walk around with a giant beard and caveman clothing but people are gonna think you look funny. And how could someone circumcised want an uncircumcised penis? They have no idea if it would be any better or not, and their problem with their dick is probably a stupid one anyway. As I said, everyone outside the US (which is the only western country where circumcision is almost universal) would. It's not the norm, you're in the minority, only about 1/3 of men in the world don't have a foreskin (and it's way less among teenagers). We're not the ones walking around in caveman clothing, you are. (and I don't mean that in an offensive way)
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Post by rialvestro on Sept 30, 2010 6:56:31 GMT -5
Woah woah woah woah. Don't compare cutting an ugly piece of skin to plastic surgery, they're totally different body modifications. Yeah they're different. Different in that one is a choice and the other is force onto infants. Other than that there's no difference at all.
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Post by Lex on Sept 30, 2010 15:10:30 GMT -5
Ugly = subjective, and therefore not an argument.
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Post by binini on Oct 27, 2010 17:18:15 GMT -5
just putting it out there =P, i was circumcised when i was a toddler due to medical reasons (basically it was hard for me to pee) and yea it isn't very common in the UK and i was surprised at how common it was in other places. As for sex / pleasure yes there is decreased sensitivity but it is generally its such a small amount it doesn't make much difference . and anyway men's sensitivity levels differ for each person no matter if they have been circumcised or not so it cant really be judged.
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Post by Lex on Oct 27, 2010 18:39:22 GMT -5
just putting it out there =P, i was circumcised when i was a toddler due to medical reasons (basically it was hard for me to pee) and yea it isn't very common in the UK and i was surprised at how common it was in other places. As for sex / pleasure yes there is decreased sensitivity but it is generally its such a small amount it doesn't make much difference . and anyway men's sensitivity levels differ for each person no matter if they have been circumcised or not so it cant really be judged. Either way, it's a pretty unnecessary surgery in most cases.
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Post by Spot Moon Cool on Oct 27, 2010 18:42:21 GMT -5
I secretly want to circumcised but it would be painful.
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Post by qooqǝɯɐƃ on Oct 27, 2010 18:50:02 GMT -5
I secretly want to circumcised but it would be painful. ...Really...? Why on earth would you want to be circumcised?
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Post by Lex on Oct 27, 2010 19:15:36 GMT -5
I secretly want to circumcised but it would be painful. ...Really...? Why on earth would you want to be circumcised? Eh... why would someone want to get a forked tongue? Or why would someone want to pierce their chin? It's personal taste in body modification. If it's their choice, then it's their choice.
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Post by krzych32 on Oct 27, 2010 20:30:20 GMT -5
...Really...? Why on earth would you want to be circumcised? Eh... why would someone want to get a forked tongue? Or why would someone want to pierce their chin? It's personal taste in body modification. If it's their choice, then it's their choice. Not if I can force my believes on them first!
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Post by Lex on Oct 27, 2010 21:41:26 GMT -5
Eh... why would someone want to get a forked tongue? Or why would someone want to pierce their chin? It's personal taste in body modification. If it's their choice, then it's their choice. Not if I can force my believes on them first! Yeah, no kidding...
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Post by qooqǝɯɐƃ on Oct 27, 2010 22:48:51 GMT -5
...Really...? Why on earth would you want to be circumcised? Eh... why would someone want to get a forked tongue? Or why would someone want to pierce their chin? It's personal taste in body modification. If it's their choice, then it's their choice. I'm not trying to force any beliefs on him. Just wondering why he'd want a circumcised penis.
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Post by Spot Moon Cool on Oct 28, 2010 1:00:09 GMT -5
I secretly want to circumcised but it would be painful. ...Really...? Why on earth would you want to be circumcised? Foreskins are stupid and ugly. That is best answer I can give.
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Post by Lex on Oct 28, 2010 13:35:53 GMT -5
...Really...? Why on earth would you want to be circumcised? Foreskins are stupid and ugly. That is best answer I can give. Well, if that's what you think, then go ahead and look into getting it removed. Just don't do it to your kids if you ever have any, because it's kind of unfair to do something like that. Who knows, maybe they might like it? It's just that it can't come back once it's gone.
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