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Post by cooltiger413 on Jul 3, 2010 22:10:27 GMT -5
I have to agree with Yokailo; more Triads fail because of a lack of commitment not necessarily a lack in common interest. I think that some people on SPOTM think that in order to be a member of the tribe you have to be in a triad. That makes them sign up when they really don't have the time or the right level of commitment for a triad. This is true, we are hoping that people will be more committed because they are in a group of people they enjoy more than just random people.
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Post by erin132 on Jul 5, 2010 15:08:08 GMT -5
yeah I agree thats the case but we figured we would try this to completely rule out that as an argument for why this doesnt seem to be working
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Post by click3tyclick on Jul 5, 2010 15:43:50 GMT -5
I still refuse to try again unless you can assure me I won't be in a triad with two inactive hoppers.
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Post by Yokailo on Jul 5, 2010 15:49:15 GMT -5
I still refuse to try again unless you can assure me I won't be in a triad with two inactive hoppers. That's impossible to guarantee, Franny. Think about it. Then we'd have to only allow people we know very well to join the triad process.. And only about 10 of those aren't in triads yet.
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Post by click3tyclick on Jul 5, 2010 15:55:04 GMT -5
I still refuse to try again unless you can assure me I won't be in a triad with two inactive hoppers. That's impossible to guarantee, Franny. Think about it. Then we'd have to only allow people we know very well to join the triad process No. I don't think you should allow any random newbie with 0 posts to participate, but that doesn't mean you should only accept well known members. There's a long way between 0 and 500.
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Post by Yokailo on Jul 5, 2010 15:56:58 GMT -5
That's impossible to guarantee, Franny. Think about it. Then we'd have to only allow people we know very well to join the triad process No. I don't think you should allow any random newbie with 0 posts to participate, but that doesn't mean you should only accept well known members. There's a long way between 0 and 500. We're already thinking about other criteria, don't worry Though there are enormously active newbies flowing in right now, whereas some of the older members hardly ever post.
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Post by cooltiger413 on Jul 5, 2010 20:50:45 GMT -5
There is a screening process we are working on to try and weed out the inactive members. If you do get inactive noobs, you can sign up for generation 4.5, this is the triads of people who did get inactive members, and are unable to suceed because of this.
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Post by bombmaniac on Jul 5, 2010 23:12:56 GMT -5
you know...if you think about it...dan kinda sabotages the triad rounds...think about it. round 2 failed...for the most part...because dan encouraged a massive noobflux thus creating a bunch of triads with completely inactive members. round 3...same thing. i saw it, and facepalmed. of course dan probably isn't reading this thread so he'll just do it again, but on the off chance he is...DON'T DO IT!!! DO! NOT! all that is accomplished by mentioning the fact that the new triad round is beginning...is encouraging a bunch of fanboiz to sign up to a process they care nothing about, and that just pisses everyone off.
you run into this problem even with a screening process...a member may respond to PMs within 48 hours, and whatever other methods you choose to use, however once they actually have to do something, they skip out. the first round of triads was the only round without this problem. nothing against noobs...we value our active and enthusiastic noobs, but noobs who sign up because they saw dan on youtube, went all fanboi, and figure that one more forum membership won't hurt...just piss everyone off.
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Post by Yokailo on Jul 6, 2010 1:20:46 GMT -5
I agree so much, Bomb, but I think Dan likes the idea of newbies being immediately integrated into the Tribe through these triads. Or at least, that's what I think his reasoning is. I can't know. xD
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Post by bombmaniac on Jul 6, 2010 1:33:11 GMT -5
nah...he just likes f**king us in the ass over youtube...
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Post by Bokchoy67 on Jul 6, 2010 9:50:38 GMT -5
Maybe their could be a communications category. Also, I think if a noob wants to be in a triad we should let them. But the other two members need to be well experienced.
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Post by Yokailo on Jul 6, 2010 10:05:03 GMT -5
Maybe their could be a communications category. Also, I think if a noob wants to be in a triad we should let them. But the other two members need to be well experienced. Well. Noobs are irritating. They are the kind of people you don't want in triads at all. Newbies should be allowed to be in triads. If the two other members are experienced, but they have one noob in their triad to ruin it all, that's not really fair on them, right
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Post by bombmaniac on Jul 6, 2010 11:31:34 GMT -5
to all newbz reading this...[glow=red,2,300][shadow=red,left,300][/shadow][/glow]
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Post by click3tyclick on Jul 6, 2010 12:44:34 GMT -5
to all newbz reading this... [glow=red,2,300][shadow=red,left,300][/shadow][/glow]wtf asher
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Post by BestUsernameEvar on Jul 6, 2010 12:49:01 GMT -5
to all newbz reading this... [glow=red,2,300][shadow=red,left,300][/shadow][/glow]Made my day. not really go f**k yourself. (kidding)
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Post by erin132 on Jul 6, 2010 12:50:52 GMT -5
we'll get this sorted hopefully...
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Post by Deleted on Jul 6, 2010 13:02:15 GMT -5
Yeahh, my triad failed due to both of the other members being a part of the "noob influx". One was in a different time-zone (Australia), but I even stayed up into the wee hours of the morning waiting for her to sign on or respond, and I got nothing. The other was in my time-zone, but just didn't try at all. It took me half the first week to convince him to make a Skype, and he still never signed on...
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Post by bombmaniac on Jul 6, 2010 13:04:52 GMT -5
heres the thing. my triad, spoke VERY little on skype...in fact i dont think we had a single meeting at all. we used collaboration tools. quit relying so heavily on skype...and branch out. stixy is an excellent tool for collaboration, as is google wave. get to know each other on there. make profiles, exchange ideas...it doesnt have to be realtime. skype is very useful...but there are other ways of doing it.
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Post by Yokailo on Jul 6, 2010 13:07:49 GMT -5
heres the thing. my triad, spoke VERY little on skype...in fact i dont think we had a single meeting at all. we used collaboration tools. quit relying so heavily on skype...and branch out. stixy is an excellent tool for collaboration, as is google wave. get to know each other on there. make profiles, exchange ideas...it doesnt have to be realtime. skype is very useful...but there are other ways of doing it. Fact is that a lot of the social interaction within the tribe is on Skype already. This means that the more active members have skype, and those who are new and don't, will have to make a Skype account to get into the Tribe more anyway. As such, it is quite important to make sure everyone has skype. I do agree that those other tools are great and we should encourage the use of those, but we should at least give one communication method that is bound to work - if the people are willing to collaborate.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 6, 2010 13:08:15 GMT -5
This may be true, but my point is is that they fell off the grid, almost literally. I sent multiple PMs through SPoTM as well, and didn't get a single response.. I sent them messages through Facebook as well; still no response. I just used Skype as an example because it made more sense. Sorry for the confusion.
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