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Post by sarahendipity on Mar 24, 2010 23:18:56 GMT -5
One have you guys considered medical use of marijuana?(im not saying u guys are targeting weed specifically) My friends has chrons disease and it helps him with the pain. I myself suffer from anxiety and paranoia and i believe that a quick toke of marijuana often helps.(prescribed of course) By no means am I a pothead or addicted.I do it rarely when my problems get severe. I am not saying that doing drugs is a good thing,of course it's not.But has your club ever discussed the potential medical marijuana has on our lives? . I had never really thought about that before, but if there is a situation where some is taking certain drugs for medical reason, we are perfectly ok with that. We just encourage the club members not to take drugs recreationally. Also, it's not like we go around and give the people in the club drugs tests or anything. We just trust that they don't do any of that kind of stuff, and if we do find out someone went against the club policy, we pull them aside and have a private conversation. Sometimes we kick said person out. This sort of scenario happens very rarely happens though.
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Post by grover on Mar 26, 2010 10:18:28 GMT -5
I say passion is better than leadership skillz because a leader lacking in skillz can always be helped by others.
for the people describing their clubs with bad leaders, can't you do something about it? if not helping them, then overthrow them somehow? I mean I'm not saying thats the solution to every leader problem but I'm just saying you shouldnt just sit and complain on the internet about it, am i wrong?
I would like to point out that were talking about negative leadership rather than negative tribes, which is really a totally different subject, and one that interests me alot.
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Post by UnfairBear on Mar 27, 2010 13:13:15 GMT -5
for the people describing their clubs with bad leaders, can't you do something about it? if not helping them, then overthrow them somehow? I mean I'm not saying thats the solution to every leader problem but I'm just saying you shouldnt just sit and complain on the internet about it, am i wrong? Heh, that actually made me lol a little. In my case, anyway thats.. well, laughable. I mentioned it's just the leader and his friends basically. Well their group is.. definately not on a very high level. In fact, it's almost a dictatorship, with the leader dude I'm talking about overruling them. Well, I suppose that's a bit harsh, they don't always do what he says, but even when he's a total horrible, dispicable, disgusting person to them, even though he's their friends, they just don't do anything about it. They complain about him when he's not there but like, what's the use in that. My boyfriend is one of the group, (and the guy was a d**k to me when I first started hanging out with them) so I'm around him more than other people in the society. As I am not one of his friends, in the beginning I tried to start a sort of coup, but I'm terrible with words in person and I didn't have any support from the others, so I could never even really try to overthrow him. Other people in the society aren't really as close to him to either know how much of an ass he is, or to do anything about it, so it falls upon his "friends" to sort him out, which is never going to happen. Fortunately they're going into their last year next year so me and some others are gonna take over running Gamesoc, hopefully. But yeah, that's why he can't be overthrown. Yeah that's a good point. I can't think of any examples right now though and I'm sposed to be doing an assignment so er.. yeah *uncontributies* Edit: I'm kinda going off the topic ranting about that guy too, aren't I.. woops >.>
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Post by grover on Mar 27, 2010 19:19:37 GMT -5
it is what were discussing no?
is it possible you could form an entirely new society without him, just get up and go and meet somewhere else?
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Post by UnfairBear on Mar 28, 2010 7:01:02 GMT -5
is it possible you could form an entirely new society without him, just get up and go and meet somewhere else? Well, the college already has a Gamesoc registered so nobody else can go and make another one, and they wouldn't be able to get the funding they needed to function. Some other societies might be able to work without funding, but Gamesoc needs loads of equipment and junk to work so. Ya. There's always next year though. How would a negative tribe be defined? I can see how a person can be on a low tribal level, but what makes a tribe a certain level? Just a combination of people's levels, or some other criteria?
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Post by sarahendipity on Mar 28, 2010 9:47:52 GMT -5
How would a negative tribe be defined? I can see how a person can be on a low tribal level, but what makes a tribe a certain level? Just a combination of people's levels, or some other criteria? The Nazis, the KKK, and any other hate group like them is a perfect example of a negative tribe. Any group of people who are set out to do horrible things would be that.... however, based on what Dan and David Logan have said, a Level 4 tribe states "We are great." The Nazis and KKK thought just this. Sooo... would they still technically be a Level 4, even if they were malicious people?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 28, 2010 13:01:56 GMT -5
Sooo... would they still technically be a Level 4, even if they were malicious people? If the levels apply to a tribe's opinion of only their own tribe members, then yes, but I do not think it should be limited to that boundary, so the people you mentioned would be level 3 in my opinion: "I'm great and you're not".
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Post by bombmaniac on Mar 28, 2010 14:44:34 GMT -5
i'd say 4chan is a prime example of a negative tribe
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Post by grover on Mar 28, 2010 21:39:20 GMT -5
4chan <333
by definition, great does not necessarily mean good, so theres that.
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Post by Sammi on Mar 30, 2010 12:51:28 GMT -5
Does 4chan even qualify as a tribe?!
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Post by zAkAtAk on Mar 30, 2010 13:33:29 GMT -5
Why does everyone knock 4chan so much?
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Post by Breepop on Mar 30, 2010 13:45:02 GMT -5
What?
4chan is amazing, guys. Deviant behavior is not bad, it is different. They do stupid SHIRT, but sometimes stupid SHIRT is just what we need in this world.
4chan helps define Internet culture (in what ways do we want to be like 4chan? in what ways to we want to be different?) annnd 4chan encourages social change.
Like it or not, PogoTribe is like 4chan in more ways than one. And wants to be. I, personally, love the heck out of 4chan. I am not a part of the 4chan community, but I absolutely adore to no end what they have done for the Internet. MUCH LOVE.
*ahem* PDBAZ >:[ Don't hate what you don't understand, yo.
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Post by AGaW on Mar 30, 2010 14:10:37 GMT -5
What? 4chan is amazing, guys. Deviant behavior is not bad, it is different. They do stupid SHIRT, but sometimes stupid SHIRT is just what we need in this world. 4chan helps define Internet culture (in what ways do we want to be like 4chan? in what ways to we want to be different?) annnd 4chan encourages social change. Like it or not, PogoTribe is like 4chan in more ways than one. And wants to be. I, personally, love the heck out of 4chan. I am not a part of the 4chan community, but I absolutely adore to no end what they have done for the Internet. MUCH LOVE. *ahem* PDBAZ >:[ Don't hate what you don't understand, yo. this. by the way, i don't know if any of you guys know this, but 4chan is a lot more than just /b/.
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Post by TsukikoSuoh on Mar 30, 2010 16:18:52 GMT -5
There are many bad examples of tribes. For example, my Marching Band was a pretty nice Tribe for about two years, but once the main officers were gone it went a bit wack. The Drum Majors decided to be dictators instead of friends, section-mates began competing in a bad way and then thy all began to stab each other in the back. It was mass chaos, I was only one of about twenty or so victims, and now the tribe I had once been so proud to be a part of has become a sad shadow of what it once was. The Officers have lost their connection and even the sections have lost the love that once ran freely between them. The same basic thing happened with my Choir as well, after about two years it has all collapsed and the leader became a dictator with an iron fist rather than the 'Mother Goose' *as he was so nicknamed* who had protected her eggs. It all collapsed and to see the instant death of such a wonderful tribe hurts. At least We know that this forum will be an exception to the dictatorship and falling apart of past Tribes.
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Post by RabbitWho on Apr 3, 2010 13:34:19 GMT -5
www.youtube.com/watch?v=ltR3kTYT3gcbased on a true story I think that anyone who ever starts a group tribe or organization should be aware of. (it's an entire film, watch it if you have an hour and a half)
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Post by Felix on Apr 3, 2010 17:00:24 GMT -5
www.youtube.com/watch?v=ltR3kTYT3gcbased on a true story I think that anyone who ever starts a group tribe or organization should be aware of. (it's an entire film, watch it if you have an hour and a half) I've seen that movie, actually a great example of tribal power and its potential misuse. But i think our pogotribe-advantage is that we are pretty self-aware and i believe we could act without leading help. And so if Dan turned into a dictator tomorrow, we'd either tell him that we don't like the way he changed or just drop him off the train and go for ourselves.
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Post by RabbitWho on Apr 3, 2010 20:14:09 GMT -5
www.youtube.com/watch?v=ltR3kTYT3gcbased on a true story I think that anyone who ever starts a group tribe or organization should be aware of. (it's an entire film, watch it if you have an hour and a half) I've seen that movie, actually a great example of tribal power and its potential misuse. But i think our pogotribe-advantage is that we are pretty self-aware and i believe we could act without leading help. And so if Dan turned into a dictator tomorrow, we'd either tell him that we don't like the way he changed or just drop him off the train and go for ourselves. Yeah! It's what I was afraid of when I first heard of the tribe, but I think if we're aware of it we should be okay. And hopefully Dan is aware of that too, he has a good organizer, and it's his job, which is awesome!
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Post by punion on Apr 5, 2010 6:31:17 GMT -5
the KKK was such a good tribe. If you think about it, what was going on inside of the KKK and other horrible tribes was probably at stage 2 and sometimes stage 1. When people do the crap that those tribes were doing to other people, it's got to be at a 'life sucks' level. Sharing fearfulness is at a low level. And just imagine being 'friends' with some violent person. What is stable in that? How can you honestly have a thought that 'we are great'? I mean really...not in some belligerent, in-your-face way.
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Post by Dimstow on Apr 5, 2010 8:37:09 GMT -5
punionActually I would say that the KK is a perfect example of a level 3 tribe, and it's exactly why we need to realize the importance of moving on the level 4 They were organized, specific, had clear leaders, their violence was specific towards those whom they didn't agree with, and yet they help no negative feelings towards those who did not fall into the categories of 'people we want to burn'. My point being, they really were a good tribe to each other, and a very stable tribe so long as they still had a reason to remain a tribe (Unity for the sake of a goal, not unity for unity's sake). And even though their actions were/are horrible they shed no violence on those who agreed with them. Sounds pretty 'level 3' to me.
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Post by AMagicalCat on Apr 7, 2010 2:00:13 GMT -5
Tribes follows their leader. If the leader is bad, the tribe is bad. Hitler had passion, he had leader skills and he had an agenda. He was a good leader in terms of skills, but his ideas was badbadbad.
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