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Post by Flappy on Dec 27, 2010 0:00:51 GMT -5
What is the explanation for demonic possession? is it truly a demon? Is it a cry of attention? Is it schizophrenia or other psychological disorders?
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Post by Freddy on Dec 27, 2010 0:19:39 GMT -5
I don't have an opinion on this one.
I think I'll just watch the debate and see who convinces me.
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Post by Ryan on Dec 27, 2010 2:10:41 GMT -5
Demonic possession is the control of the body by a demon. A demon is historically anything that is not human. So demonic possession, is in fact a possibility, when an ailment, parasite, virus, or other trauma to the brain causes the loss of the control of the consciousness of a human.
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Post by Lex on Dec 27, 2010 11:56:29 GMT -5
I believe it depends on the case. Some might do something like that for attention. Others may have a disease, or psychological or physical disorder.
However, there is a part of me that wants to believe that things like demons and ghosts exist. I'm not entirely sure about that yet.
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Post by SwimFellow on Dec 27, 2010 14:20:27 GMT -5
I believe it depends on the case. Some might do something like that for attention. Others may have a disease, or psychological or physical disorder. However, there is a part of me that wants to believe that things like demons and ghosts exist. I'm not entirely sure about that yet. By demonic, if you mean "possessed," I'm sure it's psychological. It could be either stress or just something that gets out of place in your brain.. Or something along the lines of that. |
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Post by Nakor on Dec 28, 2010 4:25:53 GMT -5
ryan: Not sure that "anything not human" really counts as a demon though? Even older civilizations were familiar with the concept of disease, and distinguished it from demons (although knowledge of what exactly disease was was absent, and they would sometimes accuse demons of causing it). If demonic is to be taken literally, then such a thing simply doesn't exist. Science explains now what was unknown in centuries past. As for what it is/was, all sorts of things were mistaken for it, from mental disorders to epilepsy.
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Post by Flappy on Dec 28, 2010 11:11:58 GMT -5
What about today? People are still claiming demonic possession today. Are these people just sadly misinformed?
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Post by Lex on Dec 28, 2010 12:16:44 GMT -5
What about today? People are still claiming demonic possession today. Are these people just sadly misinformed? Yes. |
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Post by Joey on Dec 29, 2010 20:04:56 GMT -5
What about today? People are still claiming demonic possession today. Are these people just sadly misinformed? Yes. Or they could just be suffering from something that we have not discovered yet. |
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Post by Nakor on Dec 30, 2010 14:27:14 GMT -5
A lot of times they are suffering from something we have discovered, but some nut diagnoses it as demonic possession and they end up not getting treatment they need.
Even if it's an undiagnosed condition, writing it up to demonic possession is giving up on medical science in favour of myth. Either way they're still sadly misinformed.
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Post by kernoll on Dec 30, 2010 16:36:05 GMT -5
It depends on what you believe in. If you are sceptycal about demonology or occult art you should stick with explanation that demonic possesion is state of mind when due mental or physical damage brain doesn't work properly and possesed person is acting in ways that seem to their surroundings as demonic... Nothing more... nothing less
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Post by Alex on Jan 1, 2011 20:27:55 GMT -5
Demons simply don't exist. People are not possessed, they have a mental disorder, they are crying for attention, or they have something affecting their brain (An injury, drugs, etc.).
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Post by Nakor on Jan 2, 2011 12:52:12 GMT -5
kernoll: I beg to differ. The truth is unaffected by what people believe. Whether they believe in it or not, and whether or not their faith or religion says anything about it has absolutely no impact on whether it's actually true or not.
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Post by Flags_Forever on Jan 2, 2011 13:00:33 GMT -5
kernoll: I beg to differ. The truth is unaffected by what people believe. Whether they believe in it or not, and whether or not their faith or religion says anything about it has absolutely no impact on whether it's actually true or not. Exactly. I could believe that the middle east is governed by a cabal of Nazi squirrels, but that wouldn't make it true. |
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Post by Alex on Jan 2, 2011 18:04:55 GMT -5
kernoll: I beg to differ. The truth is unaffected by what people believe. Whether they believe in it or not, and whether or not their faith or religion says anything about it has absolutely no impact on whether it's actually true or not. Exactly. I could believe that the middle east is governed by a cabal of Nazi squirrels, but that wouldn't make it true. Wait, that isn't true? Crap, I need to take that site down... |
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Post by SwimFellow on Jan 2, 2011 23:44:01 GMT -5
Hmm.. I'm really interested now on what causes “demonic possession..” I'm going to talk to one of my friends, (who is a psychologist-in-training) about this..
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Post by Nakor on Jan 3, 2011 2:10:17 GMT -5
^ There's really no single answer. All sorts of conditions are misunderstood as demonic possession. Epilepsy, autism, several psychological disorders... there's no one single thing.
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Post by SwimFellow on Jan 5, 2011 22:04:05 GMT -5
Of course not. Never said it was one thing. Just what factors in and how large the effect is.
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Post by Flappy on Jan 7, 2011 15:50:20 GMT -5
I actually had a psychology teacher last year who I can ask about it, and get the psychologists perspective. A lot of times they are suffering from something we have discovered, but some nut diagnoses it as demonic possession and they end up not getting treatment they need. Even if it's an undiagnosed condition, writing it up to demonic possession is giving up on medical science in favour of myth. Either way they're still sadly misinformed. Been watching some exorcism movies, have we? Lol, I just say that because The Exorcism of Emily Rose and The Last Exorcism go into this subject (not seeking medical attention). |
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Post by The Monster on Jan 10, 2011 16:21:28 GMT -5
I personally, took an intro to psychology class last year and what I found (based on the array of theories), was that demonic possession although conspiratorial is in fact co-related to schizophrenia/psych diseases (at least in the textbooks point of view)-which is believe to be stimulated by either genetics, one's environment or past experiences.
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