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Post by ifyouwantblood on May 4, 2010 11:57:03 GMT -5
So i was thinking (And please god dont be offended because i know it can seem kinda morbid to a lot of you it isnt,i swear )
Now then lets get it on (metaphorically speaking, ofc.)
If Dan Brown (not the author) was to die or disapear, would the pogotribe continue. Now i dont want you to consider sorrow and such as that, but from a cynical point of view. If dan brown was to disapear, would the pogotribe be able to continue? if not, what must we do to be able to do so? (not that im planning on killing him =)) Is it a good thing to be able to do so?
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Post by click3tyclick on May 4, 2010 12:46:40 GMT -5
I wouldn't leave the tribe is Dan died. I doubt anyone would.
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Post by Deleted on May 4, 2010 13:37:31 GMT -5
I think one key element of a good tribe is to have someone who you are (almost) sure will make good decisions. Someone you can relate and compare yourself with. Someone you are capable to trust in. And currently, although I do like the entire community in here, and do like "talking" with many people who post here, I still haven't managed to make very deep "bonds" and find anybody else besides Dan. Some people have managed surely, but not everyone is capable of doing it at the same speed. So I can surely see all admins and most of the triad members keeping in touch, and I would force myself to keep up with the tribe (I like the Debate Club...). Yet, besides those people and those who are already obviously more pronounced in the community (I wonder how they have time to eat, poop and sleep... ) I think many would leave the tribe. So, the end of the pogotribe? No. But surely a big step-back which would delay some projects and the tribe itself. Yet, we could recover from such a step-back if it happened, it would be just a matter of will and time.
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Post by click3tyclick on May 4, 2010 13:43:49 GMT -5
Well, most of the people who'd leave would be the ones who are here because they think Dan is a cool guy. Most of the people I actually know would stay and do their best to make the tribe succeed without Dan.
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Post by chelseeyuh on May 4, 2010 14:08:35 GMT -5
I don't think the tribe would change much if Dan were to die. As it is, there's a core group of members that accounts for the majority of the activity on the moon. Then there's everyone else--the people who visit occasionally, post rarely, and stays on SPOTM briefly. These people are always coming and going. I think if Dan died, these people would continue to come and go (though they may come less and less frequently as time goes on), whereas the core of the tribe would continue. The transient tribe members don't impact SPOTM that much because they aren't as dedicated and just come here for shiggles every now and then. So, no, I don't think the moon would really change...
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Post by ifyouwantblood on May 4, 2010 14:49:25 GMT -5
I think you are right chelsea, we would probably not get as many new people as before. but the tribe and its values would live on. Im sure the admins would step up to be the leaders, or one admin with lots of time on his hands.
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Post by Yokailo on May 4, 2010 14:52:17 GMT -5
I think loads of people would stop keeping track of SPOTM and slowly disappear, but I've found there is this core group that I just know would stay if Dan were to die, just to keep the awesome going.
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Post by click3tyclick on May 4, 2010 14:57:19 GMT -5
I think loads of people would stop keeping track of SPOTM and slowly disappear, but I've found there is this core group that I just know would stay if Dan were to die, just to keep the awesome going. Those loads of people don't really matter tbh.
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Post by ifyouwantblood on May 4, 2010 14:59:56 GMT -5
Well yeah, they dont matter as much as the core group. But they do matter, and the core group shouldnt be distancing themself from them saying that only the core group can do real projects and make a difference. Anyway its kinda hard to define that core group, atleast for me =D
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Post by click3tyclick on May 4, 2010 15:02:23 GMT -5
If people leave the Tribe when Dan does, they weren't really interested in helping us.
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Post by Johncoyne on May 4, 2010 15:06:01 GMT -5
I think more people would join the Pogotribe after he died (if he did). It's sort of like how every one started listening to Michael Jackson after he died. Death draws interest.
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Post by Jake on May 4, 2010 16:29:18 GMT -5
I think more people would join the Pogotribe after he died (if he did). It's sort of like how every one started listening to Michael Jackson after he died. Death draws interest. That's actually a very good point! But still, Dan, please do your best to not die.
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Post by ramram on May 4, 2010 17:00:28 GMT -5
WHATT??
better question.. would the tribe come closer together if Dan where to 'leave'?
i think so
...he will live on forever
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Post by chelseeyuh on May 4, 2010 17:48:32 GMT -5
I'm not saying that the people who aren't in the core group matter less than the people who are. It's just that they don't affect the moon as much. We were all there at one point, so it's not fair to say that those people matter less. If they didn't exist, the core group wouldn't either.
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Post by Johncoyne on May 4, 2010 21:10:22 GMT -5
Many renaissance artists never sold anything until after they died. After someone dies, the value of their work goes up because you can't get any more of it. There have been no Da Vinci paintings made in a while because newsflash: Da Vinci can't make paintings six feet under.
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Post by lizvallish on May 4, 2010 21:14:03 GMT -5
By this time in the life of the SPOTM, no, our community would not die. It is not solely based on his ideas or his videos or his life. If he were to jump into the TARDIS right now and become the Doctor's companion, we would have to strive on. Not to say it's necessary, but we've got something good going on here. Why stop? I've met so many great people here that I would not have met if it weren't for Dan, but if he died today, we'd keep talking and planning projects. I'm sure someone would step up as a facilitator of sorts.
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Post by Helmet on May 4, 2010 21:42:15 GMT -5
Dan has been talking about how he wants for the Moon to soon be independent, with no Dan needed. No Pogotoks, no nothing, and we would be doing fine.
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Post by Dimstow on May 4, 2010 21:49:03 GMT -5
I want to start off by saying that anything I say here is just speculation and I want this opinion to be viewed as the opinion of a member of the Tribe not as an Admin saying Admin-like-things. I think the Tribe would continue, as I'm sure most of you do. The question is not whether we would or would want to it's HOW would we. Would we morph and change into a community that surpasses our single youtube-user outlet to the world and find it's way into the hearts and out of the mouths of most of youtube and eventually most of the internet? Or would we struggle to continue our current function without the support of our beloved leader and eventually whittle down into a small core group of friends with big big dreams. I like the believe the first one is true obviously (Not that I don't I love the friends I've made on the moon ) I think that for our Tribe to survive post-Dan some major changes would have to happen. The Tribe definitely needs leadership, I think that's plain and obvious, and I also think the obvious choice for that leadership is our Admins. I (knowing them all personally) think the Mantle of leadership (Sans-Dan) is something we could all share and something we could handle. It's not ideal and we would struggle but I think that our Admins have the brains, the creativity, and the desire to push our community to be able to take the leadership of the Pogotribe and handle it in style I think the biggest change though is this. To Survive Without Dan, We Need a New Outlet to Tell People About Our Tribe. Whether it comes from Dan's fellow youtubers, or from the power and creativity of the tribe itself we would HAVE to have an outlet of showing ourselves to people, or getting the name and existence of the pogotribe heard and continually heard. But other than those changes I think he tribe would not only continue but a tribe Minus D-Brown may be a beautiful thing, being able to show the world BY OURSELVES how much we can accomplish just by being a community of people with big ideas and the support of each other to accomplish those big ideas, That is something we're working towards already, losing Dan would just be one heck of a kick in the pants towards doing it.
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Post by sarahendipity on May 4, 2010 22:17:24 GMT -5
I concur, kind sir. I concur indeed.
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Post by Breepop on May 4, 2010 22:22:21 GMT -5
Dan's still here?
UGH.
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