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Jul 12, 2010 18:47:55 GMT -5
Post by Johncoyne on Jul 12, 2010 18:47:55 GMT -5
It seems to be the trend to let out our opinions about the way things are being run and the way people are acting on the Moon. So, without further adieu, here's anfsiuodrfnsja eanjekioasfrwyao.
4 points of John:
1. Projects are benefiting the Moon.
Sure, benefiting the Moon is great, but what does it accomplish. If you're here to change the world, changing the Moon will not help.
2. People are being babies.
If you don't like Dan 3.0, get over it. Honestly, it's getting annoying. If you don't like a person, get over the differences. Kindly PM them and tell them that they annoy you and try to get over the differences. Chances are, they won't leave any time soon. Even if they leave, they'll probably come back *hint*.
3. People are complaining.
Rather than sit around and complain, do something about it.
4. Nothing is getting done.
Ok. I know things are getting done, but... I don't really know how to explain it. Many people (not all) like to sit around and say that they will change the world. But, have we changed the world? No. We haven't done anything. We've gotten to know each other. We have projects saying what's going on here. What good does that do? None.
Plan to get things done:
1. Stop all projects.
I mean this seriously. Give all the projects a month to finish. During this month, no new projects will be started.
2. Work on the Noble Cause.
In order to change the world, we need something to change. The Noble Cause should not be something we can put off until we feel like it.
3. Classify.
Group everyone. Artists, musicians, vloggers, editors, writers, programmers, etc.
4. Plan.
Plan phases of the project. What will come first? What will come second?
Plan a certain task for each group to do. Artists could make advertisements. Musicians could help write background tracks for promotional videos. Vloggers could advertise the Noble Cause on their channels.
5. Utilize.
Everyone would start working on things, putting things together. This would be the start to any actual work.
6. Advertise.
Get some famous Youtubers in on this. This is the crucial part where Dan could use his fame and resources.
7. I haven't thought of this part yet.
So that's how I think we should do things on the Moon. We need to take some action here. Everyone who disagrees with my ideas, please calmly tell me so and we can work out our differences in a polite manner.
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Jul 12, 2010 18:58:35 GMT -5
Post by jmejia1187 on Jul 12, 2010 18:58:35 GMT -5
What about the UPNN? It just started?
We will need someone to report the news when we start changing the world...
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Jul 12, 2010 19:05:33 GMT -5
Post by Johncoyne on Jul 12, 2010 19:05:33 GMT -5
Well, things like that and the Pogocast would stay.
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Jul 12, 2010 19:06:16 GMT -5
Post by jmejia1187 on Jul 12, 2010 19:06:16 GMT -5
Cool thanks...
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Jul 12, 2010 19:08:41 GMT -5
Post by Breepop on Jul 12, 2010 19:08:41 GMT -5
What about the UPNN? It just started? We will need someone to report the news when we start changing the world... COULD YOU STOP MENTIONING THAT IN EVERY POST YOU MAKE? IT IS VERY UNNECESSARY. THANK YOU. Smiles. Also, John. Um. Hi. I disagree with just about everything you said there. Sorry. I think you may have implied that we need to stop spreading ourselves out so much, and just work on one (or just a few) projects, so things actually get done. Yeah, I agree with that. The rest... no. SORRY. I like you. But I don't like you without an H.
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Jul 12, 2010 19:12:08 GMT -5
Post by click3tyclick on Jul 12, 2010 19:12:08 GMT -5
Plan to get things done: 1. Stop all projects.I mean this seriously. Give all the projects a month to finish. During this month, no new projects will be started. Amazing idea. Because, you know, we happen to have a fuckload of great projects that we're struggling to complete! 2. Work on the Noble Cause. In order to change the world, we need something to change. The Noble Cause should not be something we can put off until we feel like it. Want a Noble Cause? Help. For now, it's as good as any other. Can we stop using that as an excuse and actually do something now? 3. Classify. Group everyone. Artists, musicians, vloggers, editors, writers, programmers, etc. what is this i dont even 4. Plan. Plan phases of the project. What will come first? What will come second? Plan a certain task for each group to do. Artists could make advertisements. Musicians could help write background tracks for promotional videos. Vloggers could advertise the Noble Cause on their channels. Oh, I've heard of that. It's this weird thing called "common sense". Plan things, get people to work on things that they're good at. 5. Utilize. Everyone would start working on things, putting things together. This would be the start to any actual work. Yes. Everyone should do something. See reply #5. 6. Advertise. Get some famous Youtubers in on this. This is the crucial part where Dan could use his fame and resources. So you want half of Dan's videos to be "hey guys check this nice project on my website and help out!"? Dan can do some shoutouts, but he can't do it for every single project. And people won't be happy is their project isn't one of the lucky few. k, I have no idea why, but being negative feels good.
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Jul 12, 2010 19:12:22 GMT -5
Post by cooltiger413 on Jul 12, 2010 19:12:22 GMT -5
I think this is a pretty good plan. Especially the part about getting our Nobel cause done.
+1 Support
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Jul 12, 2010 19:13:33 GMT -5
Post by Insane_Zang on Jul 12, 2010 19:13:33 GMT -5
I didn't read any of the threads about Dan 3.0 but I'd like to address step 6. Look at what revision 3 and nerdfighters did in Uganda. They did such amazing things (olol twss). Dan has the same resources John and Hank have (about the same subscribers and a community behind them). I can already see Chelsea saying "THIS ISN'T A DAN BROWN FANCLUB", but let's be honest, we could actually use him.
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Jul 12, 2010 19:14:17 GMT -5
Post by Johncoyne on Jul 12, 2010 19:14:17 GMT -5
Hi, Bree! 'Sal good. Yeah, that was the message, glad I was able to convey it. <3. What do you not agree with and why? Fanks.
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Jul 12, 2010 19:15:20 GMT -5
Post by Insane_Zang on Jul 12, 2010 19:15:20 GMT -5
Too lazy to edit. About what you said about Dan advertising, no. He has the ability to contact people like revision 3 and other youtubers.
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Jul 12, 2010 19:22:19 GMT -5
Post by Johncoyne on Jul 12, 2010 19:22:19 GMT -5
Your sarcasm makes me confused. That's what I wanna fix. The entire planning part was to show that I'm not just sitting around and not taking an initiative. So, yeah, if you wanna criticize that, make your own outline. Did I ever say that? It's only really one project. I'm glad you enjoyed it. TWSS I think this is a pretty good plan. Especially the part about getting our Nobel cause done. +1 Support Disagree with me, please. That's how ideas are formed. Words about people and Dan. I love you Zang. Let's make babies.
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Jul 12, 2010 19:31:19 GMT -5
Post by click3tyclick on Jul 12, 2010 19:31:19 GMT -5
Your sarcasm makes me confused. Why should we stop starting projects if there aren't any projects that we're trying to finish? Do you really need a well defined noble cause to start trying to help people? I don't think you do. The entire planning part was to show that I'm not just sitting around and not taking an initiative. So, yeah, if you wanna criticize that, make your own outline. My plan is going to be even more mind blowing. Get an idea and get people to help. ogod Did I ever say that? It's only really one project. Wait. We, a tribe of 3000 people, are going to completely focus on one single project? I don't get it.
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Jul 12, 2010 19:32:27 GMT -5
Post by Breepop on Jul 12, 2010 19:32:27 GMT -5
4 counterpoints of Bree:
1. I think projects that benefit The Moon are great. Not every project needs to change the world. It's ridiculous to say we shouldn't do things just because they won't change the world. AND NO, contrary to popular belief, you don't have to want to/expect to change the world to be on these forums. If you just want to make some friends and build a good community, that's perfectly fine.
2. Bree will try to make them leave. Because she's terrible. LOOK OUT.
3. These aren't all counterpoints. I just called it that to be clever. I like #3.
4. I think you're being way too black and white..and wrong! Having projects saying what's going on here do a lot of good in my opinion. How will the world changing projects ever get any traction if no one knows they're going on? Duh.
Plan to stop things from getting done (wait, that's not right):
1. what is this i don't even
2. While I agree that we should work on the Noble Cause, we don't need to rush it... the answer isn't at the end of the double rainbow, man. It takes work. We've got to wait for it to form a triple rainbow. Umm, yeah, so just... be patient. BUT DON'T FORGET ABOUT THE NOBLE CAUSE, EITHER. Noble causes just happen. Can't be forced, yo.
3. I don't see why, but sure. k.
4. Wait, I thought that's what this was? Are we planning to plan? Cool.
5. YEAH, WORK. WORK. I LIKE WORK. LETS DO WORK.
6. lol?
7. Doesn't seem like you thought many parts of this through, to be honest. I'm not trying to be mean, but a lot of your post seems... misguided? I LOVE YOU, JOHN (WITH AN H).
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Jul 12, 2010 19:36:48 GMT -5
Post by click3tyclick on Jul 12, 2010 19:36:48 GMT -5
bree stop saying that you don't like jon in every single post
THAT'S HIS THING >: (
edit: added an angry face for more impact
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Jul 12, 2010 19:43:30 GMT -5
Post by Johncoyne on Jul 12, 2010 19:43:30 GMT -5
4 counterpoints of Bree: 1. I think projects that benefit The Moon are great. Not every project needs to change the world. It's ridiculous to say we shouldn't do things just because they won't change the world. AND NO, contrary to popular belief, you don't have to want to/expect to change the world to be on these forums. If you just want to make some friends and build a good community, that's perfectly fine. In my opinion, if we (as a tribe) want to change the world, little projects won't do much. And yeah, you don't have to want to change the world to be here, but many people are here for that. I wouldn't dare say everyone's here for that, but many are. OH NO BREE DON'T KILL ME! #3 likes you, too. If people really want to know what's going on here, can't they just check the forums? It makes sense to me. I'm 14, what do you expect?
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Jul 12, 2010 20:08:41 GMT -5
Post by jmejia1187 on Jul 12, 2010 20:08:41 GMT -5
What about the UPNN? It just started? We will need someone to report the news when we start changing the world... COULD YOU STOP MENTIONING THAT IN EVERY POST YOU MAKE? IT IS VERY UNNECESSARY. THANK YOU. Smiles. Also, John. Um. Hi. I disagree with just about everything you said there. Sorry. I think you may have implied that we need to stop spreading ourselves out so much, and just work on one (or just a few) projects, so things actually get done. Yeah, I agree with that. The rest... no. SORRY. I like you. But I don't like you without an H. Thanks for this. I haven't mentioned it in every post. It's just that he said to stop ALL projects... I like the idea of doing things that mattered, but some projects that are already going on, matter. Thanks for this though. I think I only mentioned it twice... which is FAR from every post I make...
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Jul 12, 2010 20:29:29 GMT -5
Post by Johncoyne on Jul 12, 2010 20:29:29 GMT -5
Please, keep the drama out of this thread. Jon, please talk to Bree about this via PM.
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Jul 12, 2010 20:36:23 GMT -5
Post by Breepop on Jul 12, 2010 20:36:23 GMT -5
Actually, I PMed him about it, and he replied to the PM before replying to this thread, yet he still replied to the same thing in this thread. what. weird.
SORRY JOHN.
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Jul 12, 2010 21:00:51 GMT -5
Post by jmejia1187 on Jul 12, 2010 21:00:51 GMT -5
Yeah Sorry John. But like I said, I don't think we should stop EVERY project, just the ones that are deemed not to matter so much. Other projects are completely awesome and should keep going, in my opinion
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Jul 12, 2010 21:06:00 GMT -5
Post by Johncoyne on Jul 12, 2010 21:06:00 GMT -5
The whole bottom part was to make me not be a hypocrite. See points 3+4. I said that more stuff should get done so I started to try to get something done. So, the whole plan thing is just saying "Hey, I said that we shouldn't just sit on our asses and talk about crap so I think we should do this," I didn't put much thought into that.
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