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Post by Joey on Sept 27, 2010 16:40:44 GMT -5
No, not the show, the thread, and make....its own forum? I mean it only has made us a DB fan club, and brought in trolls, how about making its own forum and it being a sister site. New admins and new mods, and a much cleaner SPOTM. What do ya think? Why not?
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Post by Joey on Sept 27, 2010 16:58:02 GMT -5
why not?
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Post by qooqǝɯɐƃ on Sept 27, 2010 17:05:49 GMT -5
I'm caught in the middle because although more people may be here for D3P0 than SPOTM those people are still here and may eventually spread into other sections. And trolls aren't hard to deal with, just don't reply.
But removing the D3P0 section may allow SPOTM to focus more on other projects and the noble cause and such... I really don't know
Edit: And Sean's right this is Dan's forum, it's his call, really. Since there's no overwhelming problem he probably wouldn't want to separate the D3P0 section from this forum.
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Post by Joey on Sept 27, 2010 18:14:25 GMT -5
I'm caught in the middle because although more people may be here for D3P0 than SPOTM those people are still here and may eventually spread into other sections. And trolls aren't hard to deal with, just don't reply. But removing the D3P0 section may allow SPOTM to focus more on other projects and the noble cause and such... I really don't know Edit: And Sean's right this is Dan's forum, it's his call, really. Since there's no overwhelming problem he probably wouldn't want to separate the D3P0 section from this forum. Isnt it our fourm not dans? Yes he started it, but if he wants to get it somewhere, we need to focus, and we could put headers at the top of both forums directing to the other. If traffic is just comming for one section, then it isnt of any use to us. Ill put a poll up.
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Post by Breepop on Sept 27, 2010 19:41:03 GMT -5
I like having it here?
Iunno. I did send Dan an e-mail earlier this week in which I mentioned (among many other things) that some users believe Dan 3.0 is the cause/a contributing factor in the "downfall" of SPOTM.
He didn't reply (yet?). He sent me one first, too, all "hay, supwitSPOTM?" So... *shrug*
ya.
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Post by T. Nicholas on Sept 27, 2010 19:50:10 GMT -5
What even goes on in the D3P0 Forum? I've not checked it out yet but I can't imagine much of anything happens does it??
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Post by Breepop on Sept 27, 2010 19:54:57 GMT -5
What even goes on in the D3P0 Forum? I've not checked it out yet but I can't imagine much of anything happens does it?? In-depth discussions of different tasks (usually the bigger ones), task ideas, coalitions, advertisement of submitted tasks, etc. Dan usually makes threads there to iron out the details or get some ideas for medium/big tasks.
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Post by Joey on Sept 27, 2010 20:13:07 GMT -5
I like having it here? Iunno. I did send Dan an e-mail earlier this week in which I mentioned (among many other things) that some users believe Dan 3.0 is the cause/a contributing factor in the "downfall" of SPOTM. He didn't reply (yet?). He sent me one first, too, all "hay, supwitSPOTM?" So... *shrug* ya. Hes on tour now so, probably busy. Hmm, I dont think its causing the downfall, but its kindof putting us on a path thats not bad, but just is more difficult. I dont think its bad, not at all, I just think It would be better for us and it, for us, it cleans us up some and gets us refocused, and for the project it lets those who come only for that not come here, and lets those of us who like doing both still be able to do that. And I know personally it would help me organize and find out which things I want to vote up if there were sections for Ideas, carrying out tasks, etc. which would be possible with its own forum. You could do it here but who wants ten subforums?
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Post by Lyserg Zeroz on Sept 27, 2010 21:20:21 GMT -5
I'm not really sure about this idea. I suppose it's good to have some more traffic, and even if at first they are only coming fo 3.0 some people could still end up liking all of SPOTM and begin to participate. And now that you mention it, lately I haven't been paying much attention to Dan 3.0 , maybe I should a little more. Your point about better 3.0 organization seems good, but I don't know if that much would be needed...
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Post by bombmaniac on Sept 28, 2010 0:00:46 GMT -5
i agree with this idea. i think dan 3.0 is the worst thing to happen to SPOTM in terms of our original goals and aspirations. as for this being dan's forum, it is but only in name. in essence he has left it. true he still participates in the dan 3.0 section, but the rest of the forum he doesnt give a flying fuck about. therefore i support the idea to move dan 3.0 to a separate forum entirely. as for traffic, that forum can be a subdomain of southpoleofthemoon.com, and both sites can link to each other similar to the pogopedia. i think letting dan 3.0 go entirely from this forum will help those of us who want to focus on the real world, and who want to work on real world project focus more on our goals and tasks.
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Post by Breepop on Sept 28, 2010 1:08:09 GMT -5
but the rest of the forum he doesnt give a flying fuck about. Please don't make such rash assumptions about things which you do not know the full story. =( will help those of us who want to focus on the real world, and who want to work on real world project focus more on our goals and tasks. Which, I will remind you, is not everyone.
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Post by bombmaniac on Sept 28, 2010 6:04:49 GMT -5
on your first point, unless i see evidence to the contrary i will continue to assume that.
on your second, the poll will decide the outcome.
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Post by Raydawn on Sept 28, 2010 10:22:38 GMT -5
rama!
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Post by Breepop on Sept 28, 2010 11:07:28 GMT -5
on your first point, unless i see evidence to the contrary i will continue to assume that. on your second, the poll will decide the outcome. That's not a great way to go about things, in my opinion. Assume terrible things about people or situations just because you have no reason not to? Then loudly spread those terrible assumptions to other people, in a way that conveys you know more than you do and/or are stretching the truth? Ahhhhh, I think I just stepped in some poopoo. I think the discussion in this thread will decide the outcome (especially since people are unable to retract their vote). As well as what Dan wants and what he's okay with (if it comes to that) (the poll is about making an entirely new site for Dan 3.0, which would be impossible to do without Dan's consent). Just because people vote on a poll doesn't mean something is automatically going to happen. Picnic, why don't you submit this as a Technical Change task? Since you think this will benefit discussion of Dan 3.0, it might actually get some votes. This isn't really something that's up to us. Even if we want it, that doesn't mean we'll get it. And it doesn't seem like many people are sure about what they want.
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Post by bombmaniac on Sept 28, 2010 11:11:23 GMT -5
bree, my assumption is NOT unfounded. take a look at what he has said himself on this forum. as far as i know i am not stretching the truth at all, and i will continue, as i said, to believe this until shown proof to the contrary.
you are right, we need dan's consent. however what i meant was simply that the decision whether or not to make the case to dan will be decided by the poll. if the poll is worthless, then please delete it.
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Post by Breepop on Sept 28, 2010 11:20:43 GMT -5
bree, my assumption is NOT unfounded. take a look at what he has said himself on this forum. as far as i know i am not stretching the truth at all, and i will continue, as i said, to believe this until shown proof to the contrary. you are right, we need dan's consent. however what i meant was simply that the decision whether or not to make the case to dan will be decided by the poll. if the poll is worthless, then please delete it. I know it's not unfounded. But it's definitely not, by any stretch of the mind, correct. To say Dan doesn't give a "flying fuck" about the rest of the forum is ridiculous. He may not live up to/show the level of care you want him to, but that doesn't mean you should go around besmirching him with your exaggerated assumptions. Again, I don't think it will be decided by the poll. It will be decided with the discussion in this thread. Discussion can change people's minds, and as they are unable to retract their vote, the numbers could be screwed. Others will vote on the poll without even reading the thread, without even hearing the other side of the argument. And most importantly, as you can see from the first few posts in this thread, the poll gives no room for a grey area. "Yes" and "No" leave an issue like this too black and white, and the way people feel about the issue is far from black and white.
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Post by Sean on Sept 28, 2010 12:08:51 GMT -5
I voted no, I like it here.
I don't like that 80% of the members are only in that bit... but I still think it should be here.
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Post by Sean on Sept 28, 2010 12:24:47 GMT -5
but the rest of the forum he doesnt give a flying fuck about. Now, I know I don't know much if any more about Dan's situation than you... but I do know that he is busy. I would expect that when he makes threads here "note he hasn't for a while" they are typed quick and often he wont have time to view much more. Saying he doesn't give a damn about the rest of the forum is stupid. He just doesn't get the chance... Thinking about bit even more... I say keep the forum subsection here... Now that it is out the projects it is not affecting us in any way. It is easy for everyone... Because... * If it was moved Dan would need to set up a new one * He would need to get mods/admins * He would need to advertise it * He would need to get a design * WE would need yo check 2 forums over 1 * We would need 2 accounts * We would need to post on there as well Bearing in mind that this is from the perspective of someone who wants to see the section every once in a while... and if you don't there is no-one forcing you to even go there
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Post by Insane_Zang on Sept 28, 2010 16:12:42 GMT -5
Why can't it just be moved to southpoleofthemoon.com/project out of sight? Same forum, just hidden. For a while, we can have "The D3P0 section has moved, click her for it." in the top thingy.
I don't feel like reading through Bree and Asher bickering.
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Post by Joey on Sept 28, 2010 16:34:31 GMT -5
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