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Post by Xanast on Dec 13, 2010 18:21:49 GMT -5
^ Nice idea...
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Post by vichilux on Dec 16, 2010 20:09:43 GMT -5
I actually wish there was death penalty in Costa Rica. Why? Because our jails are so full of people that they actually don't put anyone in jail anymore... And I am not kidding. Or maybe they do put someone in jail, but then put them out in like a week. That's why you can't go out for a walk here without getting killed for a damn cellphone. And that could happen in any other country too.
If someone kills another person just because, they deserve to die as well, right? I mean, there's no need to just throw them into a room, feeding them with the money of the rest of the people and waiting for them to die in there or break out and kill again. Also, that'd make more room for other not so dangerous criminals... But that's just what I think.
Also, if you refer to my avy you may think I'm a bit psycho... well, I probably am... =P xD
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Post by Lyserg Zeroz on Dec 16, 2010 20:35:00 GMT -5
I understand the eye for an eye thing. But even if there was to be a death penalty, I really hope it doesn't get applied to simple cellphone robbers. Also as discussed before on this thread, death penalty also costs money. Also... I'll just quote myself: "try something like psychopath serial killer or genocide and you'll possibly get more people approving death penalty. Besides, unlike a prison sentence, death penalty is always permanent and can't be taken back, which should be an option if there is even a slight chance of an innocent person being convicted"
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Post by Xanast on Dec 17, 2010 20:46:57 GMT -5
Sometimes, thinning of the herds is just necessary. The prisons will EVENTUALLY fill, and psychopaths who are released might convert others to their crazy ways.
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Post by Lex on Dec 17, 2010 20:56:45 GMT -5
No. I would never support capital punishment under any circumstances.
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Post by vichilux on Dec 22, 2010 21:27:52 GMT -5
I understand the eye for an eye thing. But even if there was to be a death penalty, I really hope it doesn't get applied to simple cellphone robbers. Also as discussed before on this thread, death penalty also costs money. Also... I'll just quote myself: "try something like psychopath serial killer or genocide and you'll possibly get more people approving death penalty. Besides, unlike a prison sentence, death penalty is always permanent and can't be taken back, which should be an option if there is even a slight chance of an innocent person being convicted" Of course it would have to be for very dangerous criminals who are proven to be guilty... I would never agree on killing some cellphone robber, but if they kill it's different. Also, if there's the possibility for someone to be innocent then they shouldn't use death penalty. Otherwise, I don't see a problem with it... The cost is not a big deal compared with the -shall we say- benefits it brings... But that's just my opinion.
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Post by dylansumner on Dec 31, 2010 13:40:24 GMT -5
I understand the eye for an eye thing. But even if there was to be a death penalty, I really hope it doesn't get applied to simple cellphone robbers. Also as discussed before on this thread, death penalty also costs money. Also... I'll just quote myself: "try something like psychopath serial killer or genocide and you'll possibly get more people approving death penalty. Besides, unlike a prison sentence, death penalty is always permanent and can't be taken back, which should be an option if there is even a slight chance of an innocent person being convicted" Of course it would have to be for very dangerous criminals who are proven to be guilty... I would never agree on killing some cellphone robber, but if they kill it's different. Also, if there's the possibility for someone to be innocent then they shouldn't use death penalty. Otherwise, I don't see a problem with it... The cost is not a big deal compared with the -shall we say- benefits it brings... But that's just my opinion. You bring up a point that I needed to cover better. Robber is a robber sometimes they can be changed. Now on the other hand for a murder to kill an innocent/contributing person to society just rubs me all the wrong ways. I don't see why they need to be alive any longer in our world.
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Post by Sean on Dec 31, 2010 15:41:42 GMT -5
I actually wish there was death penalty in Costa Rica. Why? Because our jails are so full of people that they actually don't put anyone in jail anymore... And I am not kidding. Or maybe they do put someone in jail, but then put them out in like a week. That's why you can't go out for a walk here without getting killed for a damn cellphone. And that could happen in any other country too. If someone kills another person just because, they deserve to die as well, right? I mean, there's no need to just throw them into a room, feeding them with the money of the rest of the people and waiting for them to die in there or break out and kill again. Also, that'd make more room for other not so dangerous criminals... But that's just what I think. Also, if you refer to my avy you may think I'm a bit psycho... well, I probably am... =P xD It costs more to death penalty someone than to keep them in for life.
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Post by Xanast on Dec 31, 2010 22:07:12 GMT -5
Depends on what kind of treatment they need, or what special needs they have.
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Post by James McClelland on Jan 3, 2011 3:38:45 GMT -5
I have a solution - let inmates choose life or death. Everyone wins.
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Post by dylansumner on Jan 6, 2011 23:36:35 GMT -5
I have a solution - let inmates choose life or death. Everyone wins. Then almost 10 out of 10 times the inmate would choose life. We need stricter laws, people are getting away with way to much these days. But that's just my opinion, I know for a fact that others strongly disagree with me.
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Post by Lex on Jan 7, 2011 12:21:29 GMT -5
I have a solution - let inmates choose life or death. Everyone wins. Then almost 10 out of 10 times the inmate would choose life. We need stricter laws, people are getting away with way to much these days. But that's just my opinion, I know for a fact that others strongly disagree with me. Laws are laws. They're not going to stop people from breaking them. Give some examples of what you mean?
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Post by austkyzor on Jan 8, 2011 0:50:04 GMT -5
No. I would never support capital punishment under any circumstances. With if someone's actions singlehandedly lead to the deaths of 100 Million People? What if somebody leaked false information to the US, which lead to a long, and very bloody war? What if somebody slaughtered your entire family in front of you? I may seem to be unfair, or trying to call you out on your stance - I'm not really - I'm genuinely curious to see just how absolute your position truly is. I respect it regardless.
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Post by Lex on Jan 8, 2011 2:05:26 GMT -5
No. I would never support capital punishment under any circumstances. With if someone's actions singlehandedly lead to the deaths of 100 Million People? What if somebody leaked false information to the US, which lead to a long, and very bloody war? What if somebody slaughtered your entire family in front of you? I may seem to be unfair, or trying to call you out on your stance - I'm not really - I'm genuinely curious to see just how absolute your position truly is. I respect it regardless. Killing the person responsible won't bring the dead back to life. It doesn't really accomplish anything.
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Post by vooper on Jan 8, 2011 7:10:37 GMT -5
Killing the person responsible wont bring the dead back to life but would act as a deterrent against future crimes theoretically saving lives.
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Post by Lex on Jan 8, 2011 14:01:16 GMT -5
Killing the person responsible wont bring the dead back to life but would act as a deterrent against future crimes theoretically saving lives. The "deterrent" excuse could be used for any crime. Lower theft rates? Execute thieves. Lower fraud rates? Execute fraudsters. Lower jaywalking rates? Execute jaywalkers. What is the appropriate crime at which we can condone vengeful, state-sanctioned murder? None.
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Post by Sean on Jan 8, 2011 15:27:06 GMT -5
I do support the Death Penalty, if people kill others why should they get to keep their lives? And it means that prisons are not as full.
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Post by Lyserg Zeroz on Jan 8, 2011 17:11:14 GMT -5
^I disagree, even thou I understand the eye for an eye thing I don't think it should apply everytime in every circumstance. Wait, weren't you supporting the not-death penalty 0.0? *Reads previous posts* Oic, only for the economical aspect
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Post by dylansumner on Jan 8, 2011 19:10:20 GMT -5
Then almost 10 out of 10 times the inmate would choose life. We need stricter laws, people are getting away with way to much these days. But that's just my opinion, I know for a fact that others strongly disagree with me. Laws are laws. They're not going to stop people from breaking them. Give some examples of what you mean? A story can sum this up pretty well. There is this cattle rancher that invites one of his city slicker friend over to the ranch to see what ranch live is like. The city slicker asks what happens if someone steals some cattle. The rancher said they hunt them down and sentence them to death. The city slicker then asks have you ever had to do that. The rancher looks at him and smiles and says no I don't think anyone would be crazy enough to steal a cow with that being the punishment.
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Post by Lex on Jan 8, 2011 19:13:23 GMT -5
A story can sum this up pretty well. There is this cattle rancher that invites one of his city slicker friend over to the ranch to see what ranch live is like. The city slicker asks what happens if someone steals some cattle. The rancher said they hunt them down and sentence them to death. The city slicker then asks have you ever had to do that. The rancher looks at him and smiles and says no I don't think anyone would be crazy enough to steal a cow with that being the punishment. The "deterrent" excuse could be used for any crime. Lower theft rates? Execute thieves. Lower fraud rates? Execute fraudsters. Lower jaywalking rates? Execute jaywalkers. What is the appropriate crime at which we can condone vengeful, state-sanctioned murder? None.
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