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Post by Jackson on Feb 14, 2011 16:08:27 GMT -5
damn, suddenly i want to go play age of empires...
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Post by krzych32 on Feb 15, 2011 12:02:12 GMT -5
@ newschooled: I know! I'm so happy! ;D @insane_Zang: They already said they wouldn't... And now they said they will create a political party, and what are goals of a political party other then to take power? The brotherhood is a father of all modern terrorism. Also they may not have a majority support in Egypt, but who does? They don't need majority to take power, they are still one of the top players in the political arena. |
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Post by newschooled on Feb 16, 2011 10:25:19 GMT -5
Based on what? I think that's a culturally paranoid knee-jerk statement. Granted, they certainly wouldn't be a force for good in the world per say based on their stated ideals, but terrorism comes from a lot of places - Blaming ALL world wide terrorism on one single source is Bush-era thinking.
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Post by Flags_Forever on Feb 16, 2011 11:00:56 GMT -5
Based on what? I think that's a culturally paranoid knee-jerk statement. Granted, they certainly wouldn't be a force for good in the world per say based on their stated ideals, but terrorism comes from a lot of places - Blaming ALL world wide terrorism on one single source is Bush-era thinking. This. |
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Post by bombmaniac on Feb 16, 2011 12:44:52 GMT -5
oh fucks sake...no. the muslim brotherhood is not responsible for the IRA. bravo. nor were they responsible for gabrielle giffords. nor were they responsible for columbine. gratz.
how about hamas, and Hezbollah?
how about the ongoing conflict in sudan which they continue to fund?
teh fedayeen in iran...muslim brotherhood,
the civil wars between palestinian terrorists and the jordanian government...muslim brotherhood.
numerous assassinations and massacres are attributed to the muslim brotherhood, as well as proxy wars.
they are against civil rights for non muslims...they are against women's rights...their greatest aspiration is a world ruled over by a caliphate under the iron fist of Sharia.
now...what arent they responsible for?
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Post by newschooled on Feb 16, 2011 18:32:38 GMT -5
oh fucks sake...no. the muslim brotherhood is not responsible for the IRA. bravo. nor were they responsible for gabrielle giffords. nor were they responsible for columbine. gratz. how about hamas, and Hezbollah? how about the ongoing conflict in sudan which they continue to fund? teh fedayeen in iran...muslim brotherhood, the civil wars between palestinian terrorists and the jordanian government...muslim brotherhood. numerous assassinations and massacres are attributed to the muslim brotherhood, as well as proxy wars. they are against civil rights for non muslims...they are against women's rights...their greatest aspiration is a world ruled over by a caliphate under the iron fist of Sharia. now...what arent they responsible for? Well, that's only 5 or 6 specific happenings, and then some mandates. Not that's it's not true, but there are more than 5 or 6 terrorist happenings in recent history, believe it or not. Now I get your point - They're bad. Yup. Got it the first time. But my point is that you can't blame one organization for all of the world's terrorism...If you disagree with that, then just state "ALL TERRORISM IN THE WORLD AND IN ALL HISTORY IS BECAUSE OF THE MUSLIM BROTHERHOOD." Again, blanket statements are often narrow sighted knee-jerk reactions. |
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Post by Insane_Zang on Feb 16, 2011 19:36:34 GMT -5
Who's claiming that all terrorism comes from them? I'm sure not. All that's been said is that they are a terrorist group, which you agreed with, and that they could take over power in Eygpt
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Post by bombmaniac on Feb 16, 2011 20:08:03 GMT -5
no my point wasnt that ALL terror was from them. my point was that the numbers game is irrelevant. they are responsible for such a large amount of terror in this world, funding so many terrorist groups, militias, what have you, that the other terrorists are rendered irrelevant in the bigger picture.
yes i listed isolated events, rob, im not going to bloody sit there and write it ALL out...it was intended to give you an idea of the magnitude of their actions and the vastness of their network.
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Post by newschooled on Feb 16, 2011 22:09:31 GMT -5
Bomb, I'm well aware of their actions. Was to begin with.
Egypt has a tremendously higher educated population and vastly superior military than many other parts of the Arab / Middle Eastern world. I honestly don't think we'll be seeing the Muslim Brotherhood taking over Egypt anytime soon.
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Post by bombmaniac on Feb 16, 2011 22:21:29 GMT -5
well that may be because of teh forced secularism on teh part of mubarak...
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Post by krzych32 on Feb 18, 2011 20:42:31 GMT -5
oh fucks sake...no. the muslim brotherhood is not responsible for the IRA. bravo. nor were they responsible for gabrielle giffords. nor were they responsible for columbine. gratz. how about hamas, and Hezbollah? how about the ongoing conflict in sudan which they continue to fund? teh fedayeen in iran...muslim brotherhood, the civil wars between palestinian terrorists and the jordanian government...muslim brotherhood. numerous assassinations and massacres are attributed to the muslim brotherhood, as well as proxy wars. they are against civil rights for non muslims...they are against women's rights...their greatest aspiration is a world ruled over by a caliphate under the iron fist of Sharia. now...what arent they responsible for? Well, that's only 5 or 6 specific happenings, and then some mandates. Not that's it's not true, but there are more than 5 or 6 terrorist happenings in recent history, believe it or not. Now I get your point - They're bad. Yup. Got it the first time. But my point is that you can't blame one organization for all of the world's terrorism...If you disagree with that, then just state "ALL TERRORISM IN THE WORLD AND IN ALL HISTORY IS BECAUSE OF THE MUSLIM BROTHERHOOD." Again, blanket statements are often narrow sighted knee-jerk reactions. When talking about modern Islamic radical terrorism, that's where it all started. I had no idea so many people are going to go on because of that one sencante. The brotherhood was created to fight the colonial powers, over time people from it's military wing broke out and created their own organizations, others took notice and more organizations were created by their example. But they were the first of it's kind in the middle east. |
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Post by ryan on Feb 21, 2011 23:20:58 GMT -5
/me goes and takes over Egypt, as she's closer. This thread is sounding more and more like a game of Age of Empires.. the vid takes like 1 year long...lol |
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Post by ryan on Feb 21, 2011 23:23:37 GMT -5
dangit my comment is too late...your talking about politics...T.T
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Post by krzych32 on Feb 22, 2011 0:29:01 GMT -5
I'm more of a victoria 2 EU2 or Total War kind of a person myself.
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Post by Insane_Zang on Feb 22, 2011 1:54:09 GMT -5
dangit my comment is too late...your talking about politics...T.T *is tempted* *resists* *can't hold it in* you're* |
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