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Post by UnfairBear on Apr 1, 2011 9:33:07 GMT -5
From the Rejuvination Project thread:
I was thinking earlier that maybe we should start organising Triads again. They had a lot of potential but there were problems with the system and those problems never got fixed. When you're a new person here it's a really great thing to get into, so I think we should consider rejuvinating Triads too, but obviously make them better. Thoughts?
Don't think we really need admin go ahead for this one. I think we should just have a couple of people (The Triad Team) to organise the Triads. and not just for one round like we used to do, but 3 or 4 dedicated people to organise each round. If we even have rounds. Whatever we do I think we need a definite team for it.
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Post by Chelsea on Apr 1, 2011 10:23:10 GMT -5
THIS is something I could get behind. I don't think there should be rounds, or even people organizing it. Triads should be self-forming and just.. do whatever they want, basically xD
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Post by newschooled on Apr 1, 2011 10:37:27 GMT -5
The success of this is very heavily dependent on member's willingness to participate. I think all there is to do is just start by forming a triad and gauge the response. Dive in!
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Post by Insane_Zang on Apr 1, 2011 12:08:03 GMT -5
The opposite of what Chelsea said
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Post by Chelsea on Apr 1, 2011 12:36:38 GMT -5
The opposite of what Chelsea said o.O why..?
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Post by Insane_Zang on Apr 1, 2011 13:15:32 GMT -5
Organizing it was the fun part
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Post by sarawhatwho on Apr 1, 2011 14:44:14 GMT -5
When I joined SPOTM the first time, the triads confused me kind of. It was all very complex. I like Chelsea's idea...however there should probably be some kind of orginization..to ensure that everyone is on track.
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Post by Chelsea on Apr 1, 2011 15:13:16 GMT -5
Josh, don't even pretend like you actually helped organize the triads XD
Plus, the point of triads is to actually get stuff done.. not to have fun making more triads...
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Post by Draemora on Apr 1, 2011 15:51:15 GMT -5
I don't think we're ready for it yet... Baby steps. Also, we need to figure out a more robust system so they don't fail like the last time.
There's nothing that's stopping us from figuring out that new system though.
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Post by Nancy R. on Apr 2, 2011 4:29:14 GMT -5
Triads... I never really got them either, when I arrived at the forum, I think that one more round of the triads had started. I didn't join, because I didn't get what that was all about. I would like a simpler system and I like what Chelsea said. It would be nice to just find two people to work with on something, anything, without time limits (but without procrastinating till the end of time either), have fun doing it and in the end come up with something cool. That's easy to understand and that, I could follow. I can say that I am in a triad at my university, so I got used to the organizing... In Italian.
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Post by UnfairBear on Apr 2, 2011 6:14:30 GMT -5
I remember all the drama with the whole "why cant we start our own unofficial triads?" thing, so we definitely want to avoid that. That said, I always thought it was fun to be put with 2 people randomly that I didn't know and see what happens. See people like both systems so I think we should offer both of them. We'd have something similar to Dan's original system and then there'd be a system whereby you could make your own Triad. Maybe we could tie them together in some way, like we'd showcase the official and unofficial Triad Projects together. That way neither is more important than the other, kind of thing. Hopefully that'll satisfy everyone.
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Post by Chelsea on Apr 2, 2011 10:24:26 GMT -5
I think having "official triads" would still make people feel left out.. idk, if people want to be with 2 random people, they can make a post saying they want to start a triad with random people and make their triad with people they don't know that way...
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Post by newschooled on Apr 2, 2011 12:25:34 GMT -5
To be honest, I never did completely understand triads and they seemed overly complicated. They're not for everyone, but they do have a lot of potential when members really commit to seeing it through.
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Post by Speckley on Apr 4, 2011 18:15:40 GMT -5
If/when we do restart Triads, I think there should at least be one thread dedicated to keeping track of all the triads "official" or otherwise. I'm not a big fan of labeling on kind of triad as "official." My idea is this:
The one thread dedicated to listing off current triads would keep a list in the first post, with some basic, easy-to-understand guidelines for organizing your triad and getting things started. People could choose to follow these guidelines or not; if a triad figures out a better set of guidelines for themselves, they could use their own system. We could also leave room for editing the basic guidelines with triad-formed guidelines if something seems to work much better than the old system.
There could be two or three different ways to "sign-up" for a triad. The first would be the randomization system, where triads are put together using a random number generator. Those who would want to work with people they've never worked with before could sign up that way. This is how the "official" triads were formed previously.
A second way could be a more selective process. People could list off the interests that pertain to what they would want their triad to do, and would be grouped with others who share similar interests.
The third way would be for people to form their triads outside the other two systems: basically, just talking to other active users they know on the forum who might be interested in triads, and forming a group that way. This is how the unofficial/official triad debate got started, really.
However, I propose that we do something before we get into this. First: continue/finish the rejuvenation project. As it stands, I simply don't think we have enough active members to form triads just yet. We should put most of our organization into that project before restarting the triads. Second: for anyone who was in a triad who is still active, or anyone who was around and can remember the triad system, answer these questions:
What do you think worked in the original Triads system? What do you think could be improved on? What new ideas do you have for the Triads system, if any?
I'm sure there are more questions, but I think these cover the basics. A review of the old Triads system would help, too, for anyone who was confused with the first system, or simply doesn't remember it well enough. Answering these three questions would help immensely in giving the Triads system a new structure.
And those were my 5ยข. =)
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Post by Crimson on Apr 4, 2011 22:25:38 GMT -5
I would definitely be willing to help out and participate with triads. If this thing is really gonna happen and be organized then I'm in for sure!
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Post by Sean on Apr 5, 2011 2:09:35 GMT -5
I would love to help with this.
When my triad passed from then on I received no communication, the reason it failed was that the managers couldn't get together because no one was organizing them.
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Post by UnfairBear on Apr 5, 2011 10:29:03 GMT -5
Thanks Erin, I was getting around to suggesting pretty much exactly what you said up there, so you saved me the effort =P
The only thing I disagree on is that we do it after the current rejuvination projects. If we get loads of people on here because of the rejuvination projects, and nothing is going on when they get here, then people are just going to leave. We need to put some projects in place, even if they stay dormant until we get more activity, so that people will have things to do when they get here. And I'm not just talking about Triads.
I don't think the Triad system is going to take all that much effort anyway. We just have to work out a system that most people agree on (which should be easy with what you've suggested, it seems to have the potential to keep everyone happy) and then we just need one or two people to volunteer to run the randomisations every few weeks or whatever. Or one of the admins could do that even, that way people could concentrate on the rejuvination project.
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Post by Speckley on Apr 5, 2011 13:02:11 GMT -5
Ooh, yeah, I see your point about having things to do when/if we start getting new members.
I'm just a little concerned that if we have too many project ideas floating around before we've (mostly) finished the rejuvenation project, that people will pay more attention to those new projects before finishing the rejuvenation project. That's really my only concern. =/
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Post by bombmaniac on Apr 5, 2011 13:09:40 GMT -5
first of all...no more official triads. that was wrong to begin with. triads are SUPPOSED TO FOR ON THEIR OWN as a natural break from stage 3...they are NOT supposed to be imposed. they just happen. so no triad projects none of that bullshit...people will form triads without even realizing it...trust me i speak from experience
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Post by Insane_Zang on Apr 5, 2011 13:15:32 GMT -5
No, no Asher. Just... no
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