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Post by newschooled on Apr 1, 2011 20:13:43 GMT -5
Discuss.
Dan, if you get around to checking the forum and reading this thread - You would be very unwise to not listen to the opinions of some of the core people who helped you get to where you wanted to go.
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Post by Ricky on Apr 1, 2011 20:19:16 GMT -5
I'll do something that I haven't done in a while and post something serious:
Dan, I know it doesn't mean much, but I forgive you.
In my opinion, you should start Dan 4.0, Decide for your own life. its not going back to who you were, but realizing why it is that you like what you do, and coming out of this not failing, actually learning something and choosing to want to be who you want to be.
I'm sorry if this is all confusing. I mean it all in the most sincere way. DFTBA
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Post by austkyzor on Apr 1, 2011 20:19:36 GMT -5
If it's causing him a lot of duress, he probably shouldn't continue the project.
Better to give up and save your psyche then to trudge on and watch your happiness go down the toilet
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Post by newschooled on Apr 1, 2011 20:21:40 GMT -5
In my opinion, you should start Dan 4.0, Decide for your own life. its not going back to who you were, but realizing why it is that you like what you do, and coming out of this not failing, actually learning something and choosing to want to be who you want to be.[/end of seriousness] Brilliant. I love how you put this. [/end of agreement] |
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Post by Jackson on Apr 1, 2011 20:31:37 GMT -5
He should end it if he feels the need. If he really feels that this is becoming something that causes him to wake up in the morning saying, "I don't like where this is taking me.", then end it.
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Post by SwimFellow on Apr 1, 2011 21:13:16 GMT -5
Hmm. I'm skeptical. It feels to me at least that Dan wouldn't post this TODAY (April Fools Day). I agree with everyone above if it's real, but I'm calling fake. EDIT: He said it's not a joke, didn't he?  Whatever he's happy with. |
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Post by Vorrik on Apr 1, 2011 21:15:31 GMT -5
Ach, I still think ill watch dan no matter what format of show hese doing. At the moment im not really watching this show to see what type of tasks that hese doing because they sorta just blow the hole down. I definitely feel that Dan 3.0 MIGHT be a step in the wrong direction for what he wanted to achieve in terms of community integration, on the flip side of course it would be good for him to finish it and say he did it... but did he really?
The whole Dan 3.0 thing has seemed half baked from the start but its been enjoyable to watch.
In summary, I don't really care... as long has he still makes videos that's good enough for me.
EDIT
If this is a joke for april fools its a very volatile one lol
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Post by ryan on Apr 1, 2011 21:53:12 GMT -5
VERY VOLITILE...(could lose chunk of fan base)....i think people should change to meet dan's expectations...
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Post by Lyserg Zeroz on Apr 1, 2011 21:59:33 GMT -5
In my opinion, you should start Dan 4.0, Decide for your own life. its not going back to who you were, but realizing why it is that you like what you do, and coming out of this not failing, actually learning something and choosing to want to be who you want to be.[/end of seriousness] Brilliant. I love how you put this. [/end of agreement] I remember one of the points of Dan3.0 being to improve your life (like the thing you said about the soccer team on your speach), but if this is taking the opposite direction, then serious considerations should be done. Maybe you can still change some things about the project, or leave small tasks for a while and work more on whatever you consider to be "meaningful" tasks (btw, even if you end the whole thing, I still think you should attempt to brake the world record =D). Or, just keep going with your life, hopefully you have learned some useful things out of this project. Start doing vlogs again or do whatever the heck you'd feel you should be doing, if it helps I know at least I won't feel like you've let me down, and just make sure to not let yourself and your own life down. ... |
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Post by Freddy on Apr 1, 2011 22:05:46 GMT -5
I'll do something that I haven't done in a while and post something serious: Dan, I know it doesn't mean much, but I forgive you. In my opinion, you should start Dan 4.0, Decide for your own life. its not going back to who you were, but realizing why it is that you like what you do, and coming out of this not failing, actually learning something and choosing to want to be who you want to be. I'm sorry if this is all confusing. I mean it all in the most sincere way. DFTBA[/end of seriousness] I agree completely. Now, about the possibility of this being a prank: I say it could be both. If everybody started saying "NO! DON'T STOP!", he'd just shrug it off with a witty remark and ta-da. Purdy cool prank with real intent behind it. If the opposite happens (which I think it will), he'll just make his decision and will hopefully move on to another project (which would be awesome if it involved SPOTM). Due to my laziness and short attention span, I have decided not to read your lengthy post.: Dan, it's your choice. Do whatever you feel is right. It's your life, and if you decide to share a part of it with us it doesn't mean we have complete control over you (which we never did btw). |
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Post by sarawhatwho on Apr 1, 2011 22:31:46 GMT -5
I definitely think Dan should end Dan 3.0 ... I know I can't be for sure, but I would assume it's putting alot of stress on him. And the project never really lived up to all the hype it was getting before it started. I've personally grown bored with it. I don't really care what Dan does on a day to day basis. It's too much. I think he should just give it up.
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Post by Freddy on Apr 1, 2011 22:47:23 GMT -5
I've personally grown bored with it. I don't really care what Dan does on a day to day basis. It's too much. I think he should just give it up. Exactly. It's not that I don't like it, but it's just not very interesting anymore. |
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Post by Draemora on Apr 1, 2011 23:17:24 GMT -5
End it. It's not making him happy, it's not making us happy. The project was a failure, it showed how giving control of your life to other people can backfire. He should go back to college or continue his earlier vlogs.
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Post by Tony, the one and only on Apr 2, 2011 0:05:18 GMT -5
just end it. put an end to your misery and ours <.<
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Post by zeezedzee on Apr 2, 2011 2:14:28 GMT -5
It's apparent Dan is tired of the project for the same reason we're tired of the project (it's pointless and the community involvement part never materialized) so I threw together a little poster to celebrate. I don't mean celebrate the potential demise of Dan 3.0, but the fact that Dan finally gets how we've felt for basically the entire duration of the project. Attachments:
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Post by Crimson on Apr 2, 2011 3:55:27 GMT -5
I've been a viewer Dan's videos for about 3 1/2 years now, and I can honestly say that no matter what style videos dan does I always seem to enjoy them. For right now, I definitely think that Dan should finish D3P0. Keep in mind that he has over 5 pages of uncompleted accepted tasks and is currently planning to break the pogo stick world record; if he quit now it would be at a bad time when he's in the middle of a lot of things. I think Dan 3.0 is a great show and all Dan needs to do is get an editor or someone behind the scenes to do work for him, so he can spend more time on the quality of content he's putting in his videos. If someone edited for him, he would have time to do more/bigger tasks in the videos, and have time for things like vlogs, discussions, viewer questions, discussions, etc. To sum it up, Dan needs to finish what he started and in my opinion should do Dan 3.0 task videos and have vlogs and discussions... if he doesn't have time for all of this then he needs to hire some assistance which would be very easy to obtain considering he has a large audience of video-makers.
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Post by Nancy R. on Apr 2, 2011 4:24:21 GMT -5
No one should do things that he should tolerate rather than enjoy. It's not an actual duty Dan, you're not at war and if you stop this project, it's not like someone's life depends on it. You are the one that will answer your question. Just remember that you're not really going to lose anything. You may get your viewers back though and the tribe's appreciation. (comment on YouTube)
ADDING: You know that we're with you in every choice you make. You are what we have in common here and if I can recall, we also have a common goal, decreasing world suck with projects and stuff. Personally, I won't be hypocritic, I didn't even know you when I joined SPOTM and I caught up at the wrong time (when D3P0 started), so I stayed around the forum stuff and issues. But yeah, I am with you in every choice you make and I know what you've been up to, because you see, this is Pogotribe. We learn about what you do, either by watching the videos, or by talking to others that watched them. So, that's all I want to say, the choice is yours, we're with you, do what you enjoy.
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Post by Flags_Forever on Apr 2, 2011 7:31:19 GMT -5
End it and come back. The Moon needs you!
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Post by newschooled on Apr 2, 2011 9:01:10 GMT -5
I held back on responding because I wanted to give my opinion some serious thought...But yeah, I'm siding with the general consensus. I think one of the reasons you've lost a big chunk of your fan base is because Dan3.0 has become too formulaic. No matter what the tasks are recently, you just sit in front of the camera and ramble for 8+ minutes. Honestly, it's just gotten too uninteresting.
I think the Dan2.0 style vlogs worked so well because they were what you are naturally good at. And in those days, you were ACTUALLY involved in the pogotribe, and success spawned success.
I think the single best thing you could possibly do for yourself right now is do your classic style vlogs once or twice a week, and get yourself back in school. </old guy talk>
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Post by Deleted on Apr 2, 2011 10:24:55 GMT -5
If Dan is in a position in which D3P0 is actually being more painful than enjoyable, both for him and/or his viewers, then it is a perfectly acceptable and understandable for Dan to end it. That is the first thing I'd like to say.
Yet, I do understand what Dan means when he says that quitting it might be some lost potential, due to it being 2/3 done.
So, I will just place here a suggestion. I'm not advising Dan to do this or any other alternative. I am just saying an option he might have, that fully depends on several variables that I might probably not know.
A possibility would be a deep reformulation. Dan wanted to do this, as some said already, in the hopes of changing his life for the better. He showed us the documentary about the football team, and that is what he intended in the first place, I think. Yet, with rare exceptions, most tasks Dan has been proposed to do are about making some random thing that might not necessarily help him. I propose Dan focuses on medium to large tasks, together with continuous ones. Smaller tasks should only be done if they affect Dan's life (getting a new <insert object here> that does x,y and z and so it is useful, for example). The vlogs should be used to follow Dan as he does his life, and for him to evaluate how these changes affected him.
This is just an example of a reformulation, and it doesn't mean it would need to be so. I'm just trying to make it so D3P0 approaches a more enjoyable and more meaningful goal for Dan.
Once again, it's totally acceptable for Dan to end D3P0 right now, but it would be a confidence boost (I suppose) for him to be able to finish this gigantic project.
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