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Post by Nancy R. on Jul 22, 2011 3:33:39 GMT -5
I like ideas, Mashuga, but I can't really watch videos lately. Could you please write down a summary of what you said in the video? Personally, I would appreciate it.
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Post by bombmaniac on Jul 22, 2011 8:02:33 GMT -5
omfg youre such a guido
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Post by Rob on Jul 22, 2011 12:46:06 GMT -5
Not worth it, sorry.
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Post by mashuga31 on Jul 22, 2011 12:57:48 GMT -5
So rob, youre telling me that after all the damn work youve done here, trying to fill that leadership gap with your pogotoks and all [which personally i was disappointed when they stopped] youre not even willing to devote 5 dollars a week to your own community? Summary for nancy: i figured a video would speak out more but heres the jist. The team fortress 2 festival thingy showed we can somewhat take initiative to collectively do something. All i propose is you put a little money aside every once in a while for the moon. the moon needs money to take action. back when dan was trying [quote: trying  not really] to lead us we didnt worry about bank because we figured hed take care of a lot of it. i make 20 bucks every time i go to help out my girlfriends mom with work. i just set aside a 20 dollar bill to my moon savings. and every time i make money a portion is going aside into that pile. and once everyones been doing it for a while we can come together, see how much we got and see what we can do. people. this isnt a grand revival scheme and nothing on the moon has to change or even happen. just start a little collection. like i said, say you make 300 dollars a week as a lousy gas station attendant? toss aside 5 bucks every now and again. itll help even if its not worth it. |
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Post by bombmaniac on Jul 22, 2011 13:04:34 GMT -5
i think youre missing the point. you run into serious problems when you start financing SHIRT. such as who manages teh account, how are appropriations decided...so much SHIRT to consider. you really think this is an original idea? i tried doing this 6 months ago...
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Post by mashuga31 on Jul 22, 2011 13:37:03 GMT -5
youre turning this into more than what it is asher. this isnt some big idea to save the financial crisis of the century. this is to get us some starter cash. and if im the only one saving up well then by golly guess whos gonna manage the money? but im not worried about that, just that we get money and hell if its only me saving up then the coffers are just going to rise reaaally slowly. but itll still be rising.
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Post by newschooled on Jul 22, 2011 13:46:22 GMT -5
Like Nancy, I just don't have time to watch the video right now (at work) but after skimming, I think I got the jist.
No one's going to want to pay to be here. Period. That's just hard reality.
HOWEVER - There are other ways to make money. Namely: Merch. Stickers and shirts. But with the population on the moon the way it is, that will never be lucrative. You might make $40 in the first month, then maybe $5 a months after that. Maybe.
So if we had the population, it would work. Unfortunately, we just need to get the population on the forum back up as the first step. THEN invest in making money.
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Post by SwimFellow on Jul 22, 2011 14:03:59 GMT -5
WATCH IT SOME TIME ELSE YO
This video is meme-worthy.
But really.. I don't know about this..
But it's an intriguing idea.. A community money pot..
But the moon doesn't need money. We don't do things.. The forum that does stuff is in Your Pants. This is purely talk. And guess who's fault it is that we don't do crap?
Ashe--- I MEAN DAN.
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Post by mashuga31 on Jul 22, 2011 14:52:34 GMT -5
bah you guys are a bunch of demotivated schizomids. Schizomid>  Apparently being lazy is the 'aight' thing to do now. I'm not trying to call the shots (despite wanting to) and y'all werdhaters are trying to mix the morality up a bit. Ron its not paying to be here, its saving up your own money for a greater purpose. Hell, maybe after three months you decide you want to use that money for a new xbox. Its your call, you could choose to spend it how you want, but Id rather it be spent on something that will make money you see? You need money to make money. Like it or not the moon has money. That twenty dollars I put aside is permanently in our balance. More is going to come in. Something is going to happen with or without your help, however without it its just going to take a while longer. Your guy's reaction to my desire to do something isnt dan's fault. It's yo guys. geh if only if only. Edit: Ron, i see where youre coming from but you need money for the shirts first. Like I said this is gonna be starter cash. Between all of us it wouldnt take long to come up with a couple hundred, and then we can start dishing out merch to wherever we can sell it. |
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Post by bombmaniac on Jul 22, 2011 16:47:53 GMT -5
you missed my point entirely...
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Post by Freddy on Jul 22, 2011 19:03:46 GMT -5
First of all, what Asher said. Money is quite complicated to manage as a community, and more so in an online one.
And secondly, I don't see why we need money. ProBoards kindly hosts this forum free of charge (and ad-free too), and Dan already said he's keeping the moon up. In the possible case he decided not to keep his promise, we would need some financing, but we shouldn't worry about that right now.
But I'm curious. How would you make money out of the moon? Merchandise, as suggested by Ron, wouldn't be viable, mainly because of our current population.
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Post by mashuga31 on Jul 22, 2011 23:42:16 GMT -5
The original aim of this SHIRT was to do SHIRT in the real world. that requires money. Ashers point is invalid. Money is only hard to manage if there are decisions to be made, currently there are none. There will be none fore a while. We need, however an early start for if we start our early start later on, then the actual doing of crap will be pushed even later on. Answer this question guys? Wanna do something in the real world? Yes or no? Maybe i've missed the point of why I still stayed. Maybe I was misguided when I saw potential. Maybe I've justed tuned out the constant ringing flatline of this community. There must be a resolution here i mean, if we've got nothing to work towards, the point of this forum is invalid. Im just sick of all the bitching that we dont do anything. And then we dont do anything. Eh, fuck this i'd be better off smoking some cannibas with bree. Who i never really had a problem with. |
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Post by UnfairBear on Jul 23, 2011 7:42:46 GMT -5
Cool yer shorts, Jesse.
You're right, this forum doesn't have a point. We never had a point. So lets not start throwing money around when nobody is even sure what we're doing here.
Also, Ron is right, nobody is going to put aside money. The only person who donated any money to help me fund my trip to Malawi was Chelsea, and a buttload of people knew about it. I know you're not suggesting it be actually donated, just put aside, but it's still money that people don't want to spend on an internet forum.
Besides, we don't need money. Even if we do come to the conclusion that our purpose is to do awesome stuff in the real world, help people, etc, we don't need money for that. We don't. Besides, money just complicates everything and I don't want to foster any Donald Trumps here.
The reason we don't agree with you isn't laziness, it's reason.
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Post by Linus on Jul 23, 2011 7:53:54 GMT -5
We don't need to put aside money to manage to do something in the real world. If an idea pops up about something that interests people enough, they will pay the money required to put themselves at places. There's no need to earmark money at this point. If the forums were big enough, we could've had donations, I suppose. But that would only render a very small amount of money, since donations isn't really needed around here now. Why? because there's nothing going on, and we don't have to pay for the running of the forum. I mean, look at Nerdfighteria (Your Pants); they manage to do stuff "in the real world", and I've never heard of a community pot of money in there. They pay money if they feel they want to support something. So I don't see why we would need it, since this place is a fraction the size of Nerdfighteria
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Post by SwimFellow on Jul 23, 2011 11:48:38 GMT -5
Right. There are 1000s of members on YP during one day. It's just the right place to do any projects. In fact, I helped (quite a bit) FIND (yes, we found it if you were wondering) the Library of Ivan the Terrible.. And how Stalin knew where it was.. And I stayed friends with the people who helped me.. They're probably my closest friends.
Also, never say "aight" again. In IRL or on the forum. Thanks.
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Post by Lyserg Zeroz on Jul 23, 2011 14:53:13 GMT -5
You actually found it 0_0? link to the thread/document/wherever you wrote where it is please?
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Post by SwimFellow on Jul 23, 2011 15:31:22 GMT -5
 Unorganized blotch of all info: dft.ba/-LaiGSOS (a sub-group of the Library-finders, which is the group I'm still close friends with, and I am in of course) were the ones that FOUND the library.. Wasn't hard. They made an organized.. Blotch of info (not everything Nerdfighters found, only important stuffs): dft.ba/-GSOS |
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Post by bombmaniac on Jul 24, 2011 8:41:28 GMT -5
are you fucking retarded? you discard my point by saying that its not yet relevant...but what about when it becomes relevant?! did you really not think that through?
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Post by Flags_Forever on Jul 24, 2011 17:35:43 GMT -5
^ Gonna have to side with Asher on this one. Think it through some more, then maybe we'll reconsider. Maybe.
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