no hats.

[metallica210]

i just bought a new hat a few days ago, and i have been wearing it almost non-stop. today, the monday , came around, and i realized i wasn't allowed to wear hats at school. i think this is an odd rule, as i see nothing wrong with wearing hats. this rule may be in place because people used to take off their hats when they entered a building, becausse it was polite to do so. do you think this rule should be killed, or still be in effect?

[Johncoyne]

We live in the 21st century. This rule is out-dated. I wish I could wear my flamboyant hats in school. I can't. Me so sad.

Seriously, though, I think this rule is definitely out-dated and should be killed. BURN IT!

[thejourney]

you should be able to wear hats to school but not inside just for respect (but my school is all portables so im outside most of the time)

[stephen5000]

There is an argument for not wearing outdoor clothes inside (for a variety of reasons). If that is the real goal though, you would expect rules for indoor shoes, which I haven't seen much of in North America. Anyways, hats are not the popular outdoor accessory that they used to be. Excepting winter hats, people in general often go outside without them.

The idea of needing to be bare-headed inside is now an archaic one, so I don't think there is a reason to exclude hats from being indoor wear. (especially since many people get away with breaking these rules due to religious or cultural reasons)

[Nakor]

I've heard from teachers that dislike students wearing hats in class, as it can make it difficult to see the students' eyes and see if they're paying attention or not. Though I can't imagine any real complaint about hats in school between classes; I never understood that one myself. (But then, I used to point out at my last job -- a call centre -- that there was no need for us to have a professional dress code since no customers actually saw us.)

[RabbitWho]

No rabbits! No hats!

To be honest I think showing your head is a sign of humility.
Wearing a hat in school is a statement of pride and an assertion of individuality and it almost seems aggressive to me.
But if yee don't have uniforms I don't see why you can't wear hats.

[stephen5000]

Apr 6, 2010 2:41:41 GMT -5 RabbitWho said:

No rabbits! No hats!

To be honest I think showing your head is a sign of humility.
Wearing a hat in school is a statement of pride and an assertion of individuality and it almost seems aggressive to me.
But if yee don't have uniforms I don't see why you can't wear hats.

Individuality is bad in school?

[Deleted]

In my school there was no problem with wearing a hat, but when you were in class, you had to take it off so the teacher could clearly see you and so it doesn't get in the line of sight of other people.
That seems logical to me..

But yeah, you should be allowed to wear it in the hallways etc..

[RabbitWho]

Apr 6, 2010 2:57:49 GMT -5 stephen5000 said:

Apr 6, 2010 2:41:41 GMT -5 RabbitWho said:

No rabbits! No hats!

To be honest I think showing your head is a sign of humility.
Wearing a hat in school is a statement of pride and an assertion of individuality and it almost seems aggressive to me.
But if yee don't have uniforms I don't see why you can't wear hats.

Individuality is bad in school?

For a school that teaches by the old methods and wants discipline, yes.
Individually leads to dissension, rebellion, opinions, all these kind of things that old method teachers don't want. Old method teachers want to come into a class, talk for 40 minutes, then leave. They don't want the students to say or do anything the whole time. Most teachers want them to listen, but some are so disenfranchised and miserable in their jobs they don't even care about that.

Anyway my classes aren't like that, everybody is allowed to speak, everybody speaks, and nobody can speak enough.
My job is just to introduce grammar, give them a bit of practice to make sure they know how to use it... and then an idea and then get them speaking through a topic, a set of conversation questions or a game. Those are the new methods! (Even though they're mostly from the 50s and 60s and probably even before then)
But I still think wearing a hat or sunglasses or anything like that is a bit rude.

[Deleted]

@rabbit: I agree that wearing a hat or sunglasses would be disrespectful in the classroom, so I agree with taking it off there, but what about the hallways?

And besides, there are other, respectful ways to express your individuality with which the teacher don't have a problem

[Dimstow]

My mother has been a teacher my entire life. She claims that the hat rules purpose now is that hate prevent a teacher, in most classroom settings, from seeing the face of students taking notes, and more importantly hats prevents teachers from being able to see if a student is cheating, Texting, or some other forms of in school cheating

[Lex]

It depends entirely on the school's policy.
I know there are schools in my city that don't have the "no hats" rule.

It comes from an old European tradition that it's a sign of respect (like how people take off their hats in church or while saying grace, because schools used to be a religiously based thing).

[Johncoyne]

I don't wear hats at the dinner table or while at church. I wish I could at school, though. :/

[JustAnne]

I think it's rude to wear a hat in class or in any building, for that matter and so I think this no hat rule is good. but yeah, people should be allowed to wear hats in the outside parts of school like when they walk from one building to another or spend lunch outside the cafeteria and outside of buildings..

[kernoll]

Few years ago i had one beige bushman hat and i had a hard time wearing it at school. I took it down to greet the teacher when he came to the classroom but i put it on afterward because i didnt want to put it on the bag (we were not allowed to have other things than books on the table)...

[Lex]

Really, it's a cultural thing. I know that I find it rude to wear shoes inside of the house, however most people I know do not have this objection.

I don't have a problem with hats.

Though, I'd like someone to try an experiment: try wearing a hat or bandanna inside of school, then when the teacher tells you to take it off, say that it's part of your religious beliefs. Technically (as of where I live, anyway), they can't force you to remove the hat or bandanna.

[Deleted]

there was a lot of debate about that here in Belgium, when a school decided to ban headscarfs (the thing Muslim women wear) in their school buildings.
There was a lot of protest and a lot of Muslim kids didn't go to school for a week or even a month or changed schools eventually.

I personally didn't understand the school. The headscarf doesn't limit the teacher's view on the kids' faces, so...

[RandiKthxxx]

It's something about covering your face or something. I think it's stupid though.

[bombmaniac]

i think of all the stupid things people wear in schools...hats should be the least of their worries

[metallica210]

the hat i would be wearing would be a fedora, and not that much ofmy face would be covered