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Post by RandiKthxxx on Apr 11, 2010 17:09:30 GMT -5
As of .... a few days ago (lol) Governor Bob McDonell proclaimed April to be Confederate History Month in the state of Virginia.
Now I'm a Virginia native and resident and I've heard it all, the whole "heritage not hate" argument and all that jazz, but I'm still not too thrilled about all of this. The Confederacy fought to defend slavery, there's no two ways around that, and I'm just not happy with this being a holiday. But then again, if there's any school closings, I'm on board haha
What are your thoughts on this and the Confederacy as a whole?
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Post by Silverrida on Apr 11, 2010 19:46:15 GMT -5
Well, the Confederacy broke off after Lincoln was elected because they felt they had no say in the government any longer. Slavery wasn't the only issue and could be argued not to be the main issue at all. Hell, the only reason Lincoln freed slaves was to keep the border states on the Unions side.
I, personally, am okay with this. It wouldn't be right not to learn about an entire half of the U.S. for a period of time just because they lost. I always felt we skimmed over the subject.
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Post by Johncoyne on Apr 11, 2010 19:51:48 GMT -5
Here in Yankee New York, when we learn about the Civil War, the Confederates are always viewed as evil rednecks, and the history teachers don't do anything to hide it. It would make sense for us to learn about the Confederates, but learning about them in the South is kinda redundant.
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Post by lucytie on Apr 11, 2010 20:41:45 GMT -5
The confederacy, in my opinion, is not a cultural thing. You dont hear of the democratic cultural, or the republican culture. There is no union history month. I think this all relates back to school boards wanting the cut the history curriculum. The more and more people start to see how messed up slavery was, the more guilty they feel about it all. They want to make excuses and defend something that is essentially undefendable.
I dont think the confederacy should have a whole month centered around it. It should simply be taught in the history curriculum, and stay just there.
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Post by cmc413 (aka Chrissy) on Apr 12, 2010 16:02:34 GMT -5
I dont think the confederacy should have a whole month centered around it. It should simply be taught in the history curriculum, and stay just there. That's just what I was about to say. I don't think that one side of a war that only gets about two weeks of coverage in class should get an entire month to itself. I don't think it's the end of the world that it did get a month to itself, I just don't agree with it.
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Post by hey light on Apr 12, 2010 16:06:49 GMT -5
This is really sad. Just because it's part of history doesn't mean that it should be celebrated or even talked about.
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Post by lucytie on Apr 12, 2010 16:11:19 GMT -5
This is really sad. Just because it's part of history doesn't mean that it should be celebrated or even talked about. Well, I don't really see what about it needs or calls for celebration. While I'm not saying the south should feel inherently guilty or anything, I am saying there isnt anything particularly special about the confederacy that needs to be celebrated. The confederacy is discussed at length in required history courses, so what is the need to have a month dedicated to it? To me it seems like they're just trying to make them selves feel special, because you don't see any other regions having a special month; evven if they did it would all get to ridiculously out of hand because there are so many aspects of history.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 12, 2010 17:28:54 GMT -5
This is really sad. Just because it's part of history doesn't mean that it should be celebrated or even talked about. wow.. I really don't agree here. You should always talk about thing. Celebrating something like that isn't good, but not talking about it is a lot worse, how are you going to learn from history if you don't talk about it?
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Post by bleabot on Apr 12, 2010 17:31:43 GMT -5
I don't really agree with labeling anything "_____ History Month". Why don't we just label every year "World History Year"? That makes more sense to me. All of this is part of human history. It cannot be confined to one month and it should not. Most of this stuff shouldn't be celebrated either, for that matter.
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Post by hey light on Apr 12, 2010 18:08:43 GMT -5
This is really sad. Just because it's part of history doesn't mean that it should be celebrated or even talked about. Well, I don't really see what about it needs or calls for celebration. While I'm not saying the south should feel inherently guilty or anything, I am saying there isnt anything particularly special about the confederacy that needs to be celebrated. The confederacy is discussed at length in required history courses, so what is the need to have a month dedicated to it? To me it seems like they're just trying to make them selves feel special, because you don't see any other regions having a special month; evven if they did it would all get to ridiculously out of hand because there are so many aspects of history. Okay, but the thing is that where I live is NOT the south. NoVA is like any other Mid-Atlantic area. We're not people who celebrate the confederacy like the people in southern VA do.
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Post by lucytie on Apr 12, 2010 18:17:26 GMT -5
I don't really agree with labeling anything "_____ History Month". Why don't we just label every year "World History Year"? That makes more sense to me. All of this is part of human history. It cannot be confined to one month and it should not. Most of this stuff shouldn't be celebrated either, for that matter. I agreeeee
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Post by RandiKthxxx on Apr 12, 2010 19:55:43 GMT -5
Well, I don't really see what about it needs or calls for celebration. While I'm not saying the south should feel inherently guilty or anything, I am saying there isnt anything particularly special about the confederacy that needs to be celebrated. The confederacy is discussed at length in required history courses, so what is the need to have a month dedicated to it? To me it seems like they're just trying to make them selves feel special, because you don't see any other regions having a special month; evven if they did it would all get to ridiculously out of hand because there are so many aspects of history. Okay, but the thing is that where I live is NOT the south. NoVA is like any other Mid-Atlantic area. We're not people who celebrate the confederacy like the people in southern VA do. I'm from SoVa and we don't celebrate the Confederacy either. I think you mean the western part of the state and out in the boonies.
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Post by hey light on Apr 14, 2010 9:45:40 GMT -5
Okay, but the thing is that where I live is NOT the south. NoVA is like any other Mid-Atlantic area. We're not people who celebrate the confederacy like the people in southern VA do. I'm from SoVa and we don't celebrate the Confederacy either. I think you mean the western part of the state and out in the boonies. I guess you're right about that.
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Post by low on Apr 15, 2010 23:31:05 GMT -5
Having a Confederate History Month would be great, if accurately reported the facts about the Confederacy, though I have serious serious doubts it will. The Governor's original curriculum did not mention slavery. It is very unlikely for that huge detail to have been left out incidentally.
Though, on the notion of having such a month in the first place: Facts have no morality. Knowledge isn't endorsement.
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