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May 9, 2010 7:45:04 GMT -5
Post by drewpweiner on May 9, 2010 7:45:04 GMT -5
music is very influential in all societies around the world and it has inspired many great people to do many great things, but I wonder if some types of music do the exact opposite. Some of my friends have been listening to some types of music that encourages sex and drugs and their behavior has changed accordingly. What do you think?
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May 9, 2010 8:17:13 GMT -5
Post by MusicIsMyLife4Eva89 on May 9, 2010 8:17:13 GMT -5
This brings to mind the debates about Eminem's music when I was in grade 6. Teachers at my public school "banned" us from bringing Eminem tapes or CDs to school to listen to because was "a bad influence". However, when The Eminem Show was released, I listened to it on repeat, all day everyday. I never once hit my wife (not that I have one), nor had orgys with several people (Superman vid reference), nor did I carry a "9mm heater," nor did I do drugs or engage in other behaviors portrayed through his music. I think for some people, they will act upon what they're being exposed to, and others can listen to music and realize it's music and not act upon it. There was a case (I can't remember when) where 2 teenage boys committed suicide by carbon monoxide poisoning because they idolized Kurt Cobain and his music (Nirvana). So it is a fact that music can be a negative influence, but I think the person listening to it should realize it's just music, that it tells a story.
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May 9, 2010 9:36:33 GMT -5
Post by Trey on May 9, 2010 9:36:33 GMT -5
Jazz is superior to any other genre (If you can call some of them genres..). I'm not very good at playing jazz, but I'm getting there!
Call this my opinion all you want. If you do, you just have a lack of understanding.
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May 9, 2010 12:33:13 GMT -5
Post by RandiKthxxx on May 9, 2010 12:33:13 GMT -5
Jazz is superior to any other genre (If you can call some of them genres..). I'm not very good at playing jazz, but I'm getting there! Call this my opinion all you want. If you do, you just have a lack of understanding. Isn't it your opinion? Whose else opinion would it be? lol
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May 9, 2010 23:12:21 GMT -5
Post by specialbari09 on May 9, 2010 23:12:21 GMT -5
I think drum corps is the best. Its music in motion and because of it I can never play play anything still every again. And the fact that a 60 person hornline can reach 110 decibels with no amps, have great tone and all on the move. Its pretty amazing. No other type of music in the world has performers pushed to their limits every show.
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May 10, 2010 15:00:14 GMT -5
Post by click3tyclick on May 10, 2010 15:00:14 GMT -5
No other type of music in the world has performers pushed to their limits every show. Wrong.
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May 10, 2010 15:06:13 GMT -5
Post by Johncoyne on May 10, 2010 15:06:13 GMT -5
No other type of music in the world has performers pushed to their limits every show. In the world is a very big thing to say. You can only say that if you've heard every type of music in the world.
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May 11, 2010 0:12:49 GMT -5
Post by specialbari09 on May 11, 2010 0:12:49 GMT -5
I don't know how to quote so just deal with it. John: Sir you are correct! However as someone who has done drum corps for a summer,it is definitely among the hardest to perform types of music there is. Click3tyClick: Please prove me wrong! I love discovering new types of music!
I encourage anyone who is reading this to visit dci.org to get tickets for this upcoming season! Its going to be a really awesome summer for drum corps!
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May 11, 2010 9:39:54 GMT -5
Post by Trey on May 11, 2010 9:39:54 GMT -5
Perhaps what I love most about music is the interaction and communication between musicians while they play. Interaction and communication is key. Music is nothing without interaction and communication.
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May 11, 2010 19:07:53 GMT -5
Post by RandiKthxxx on May 11, 2010 19:07:53 GMT -5
For some reason, I always feel like people around me (like at school and stuff) don't appreciate music as much as I do lol
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May 11, 2010 19:17:39 GMT -5
Post by mrmrmr8 on May 11, 2010 19:17:39 GMT -5
For me personally, I generally like music without lyrics better than music with lyrics. So I don't really know what to say here.
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May 11, 2010 19:21:08 GMT -5
Post by Trey on May 11, 2010 19:21:08 GMT -5
For some reason, I always feel like people around me (like at school and stuff) don't appreciate music as much as I do lol It's because the majority of youth don't respect music. They call Jazz and Classical music boring and stupid, yet they listen to some of the most basic forms of music. It's like calling a manga book genius and Homer idiocy. There's nothing wrong with listening to the music they listen to, but please show the more complex music you might not understand some respect. (You as in plural )
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May 11, 2010 19:27:29 GMT -5
Post by Trey on May 11, 2010 19:27:29 GMT -5
For me personally, I generally like music without lyrics better than music with lyrics. So I don't really know what to say here. I'm kinda that way, too. I prefer color over words.
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May 11, 2010 20:46:43 GMT -5
Post by that1guy2 on May 11, 2010 20:46:43 GMT -5
On jazz, it's funny how it was once bombarded as being "violent" and "unmoral" yet is today widely accepted in the mainstream, and even considered a high art at times. The same could be said for rock, hip-hop, and even Ludwig van Beethoven (his 3rd and 5th symphonies, now considered masterpieces, were initially given bad reviews by music critics). It's interesting how music evolves like that.
No music genre can be called superior to other music genres. Every genre has its good and bad music, its simple and complex music (yes, even mainstream pop). It's simply a matter of preference.
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May 11, 2010 20:51:38 GMT -5
Post by Johncoyne on May 11, 2010 20:51:38 GMT -5
I love this community. People think about things they do. "Why do I like this music?" "Why does everyone else like this music?"
Anyway, I like lyrics if they tell a (good) story or if they use uncommon words. Cheesy love songs aren't my thing. I love the chords of jazz standards. I'm always rockin' the flat 9 and flat 5.
Back to the topic, I don't think it's good to let the lyrics of music take over one's life in a bad way. However, people normally don't change because of music. They hang out with different people. Those people like different music. The different people are the bad influence, not the music. Most of the time, at least. Music can't force people to do drugs. It can be used as a trigger to start to hang out with people who do drugs, and the peer pressure makes you do them.
That's my take.
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May 11, 2010 21:13:27 GMT -5
Post by Trey on May 11, 2010 21:13:27 GMT -5
That is art. Prove me wrong.
EDIT: Changed vid. It wasn't working right
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May 15, 2010 23:49:27 GMT -5
Post by Deleted on May 15, 2010 23:49:27 GMT -5
That is art. Prove me wrong. EDIT: Changed vid. It wasn't working right Meh, I'm not that into Charlie Parker. I'm more of a Miles Davis kind of guy. (MD = God of all trumpet players) Being a classical AND a jazz musician, I have an ear and a taste for both genres, and I've realized that music that I once thought was so awesome and deep is actually, well, Crap... When compared to great composers such as Beethoven, Mozart, Percy Grainger, Charlie Parker, Miles Davis, John Coltrane, and almost every famous composer/musician throughout the past 3 centuries, music has certainly degraded in our society. Although, it's not a problem with the PEOPLE. It's a problem with the AVAILABILITY. Allow me to explain. 300 years ago, you were unable to hear music unless you played it yourself, or you went and saw it live. Not only this, but the music was limited. There was no auto-tune, no synths, no "easy music". If you weren't a GREAT composer, you'd be thrown to the dogs, and you'd probably end up playing the music of other greats as a performer. Nowadays, all you need is a couple of friends, auto-tune, a synthesizer, and a few basic instruments to get the next awesome underground band started. Wanna go mainstream? There are TONS of pop/rock/rap labels out there just waiting to sell you out. I'll use Fizzylimon's (an awesome Youtuber) example. Before 1850, American Pop Culture was going nowhere. The only thing we knew of culture was English culture. Well, a man named P. T. Barnum wanted to change this. He had heard of an amazingly talented Swedish Soprano named Jenny Lind (AKA the Swedish Nightingale), and she didn't like how things were being run in Europe. So he paid a guy to get her over here. Before she even arrived in America, he had utilized tons of advertising acts and propaganda to get America hyped up. The people of the USA didn't care that she was a renowned opera singer, they didn't even know anything about Swedish opera! They only cared that she was Jenny Lind! There was so much hype that she made $250,000 from 93 concerts while in the US! Some of these advertisements are still used today, such as impromptu celebrations (where you pay people to spread hype by celebrating when a celebrity arrives) and just full-force-in-your-face advertising by word-of-mouth.
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May 16, 2010 5:15:28 GMT -5
Post by redkneehighsocks on May 16, 2010 5:15:28 GMT -5
great minds must think alike (modest much X] ). I ask myself the same question all the time. its going to be my investigation for my science this year. the question is whether music influences the way we think, or reflects the way we are thinking. We may start listening to a genre be cause that's the way we feel. Or maybe we feel that we should be listening to that music because local society says we should, because of the way we act. i'm confusing myself
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May 16, 2010 6:41:45 GMT -5
Post by Trey on May 16, 2010 6:41:45 GMT -5
That is art. Prove me wrong. EDIT: Changed vid. It wasn't working right Meh, I'm not that into Charlie Parker. I'm more of a Miles Davis kind of guy. (MD = God of all trumpet players) Being a classical AND a jazz musician, I have an ear and a taste for both genres, and I've realized that music that I once thought was so awesome and deep is actually, well, Crap... When compared to great composers such as Beethoven, Mozart, Percy Grainger, Charlie Parker, Miles Davis, John Coltrane, and almost every famous composer/musician throughout the past 3 centuries, music has certainly degraded in our society. Although, it's not a problem with the PEOPLE. It's a problem with the AVAILABILITY. Allow me to explain. 300 years ago, you were unable to hear music unless you played it yourself, or you went and saw it live. Not only this, but the music was limited. There was no auto-tune, no synths, no "easy music". If you weren't a GREAT composer, you'd be thrown to the dogs, and you'd probably end up playing the music of other greats as a performer. Nowadays, all you need is a couple of friends, auto-tune, a synthesizer, and a few basic instruments to get the next awesome underground band started. Wanna go mainstream? There are TONS of pop/rock/rap labels out there just waiting to sell you out. I'll use Fizzylimon's (an awesome Youtuber) example. Before 1850, American Pop Culture was going nowhere. The only thing we knew of culture was English culture. Well, a man named P. T. Barnum wanted to change this. He had heard of an amazingly talented Swedish Soprano named Jenny Lind (AKA the Swedish Nightingale), and she didn't like how things were being run in Europe. So he paid a guy to get her over here. Before she even arrived in America, he had utilized tons of advertising acts and propaganda to get America hyped up. The people of the USA didn't care that she was a renowned opera singer, they didn't even know anything about Swedish opera! They only cared that she was Jenny Lind! There was so much hype that she made $250,000 from 93 concerts while in the US! Some of these advertisements are still used today, such as impromptu celebrations (where you pay people to spread hype by celebrating when a celebrity arrives) and just full-force-in-your-face advertising by word-of-mouth. Me and my father talk about the deterioration of music ALL THE TIME, and I gotta say, I agree with you! Popular music has definitely lost its value in the past 50 years. Jazz on the other hand (As well as classical), has evolved to a completely new level. Unfortunately, only a few give it simply 5 seconds to change their world. @anyone who's getting into jazz listen to the album: Kind of Blue - Miles Davis When you see it, you will SHIRT bricks.
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May 18, 2010 10:31:24 GMT -5
Post by Juno on May 18, 2010 10:31:24 GMT -5
I really hate the music thats coming out today. I mean, Ke$ha cant even sing. She's talking with auto-tune. And, all the tennieboppers that are coming out like Justin Bieber, Miley Cyrus (shes been out for awhile), and so many others, that'll only have 15 minutes of fame, then POOF! They'll be on the show "What ever Happened to...?". I love oldies music and ya Trey, I love Jazz too. I think now that auto-tune is ruining music, ppl will never like some of the older, more tasteful music, whereas they'll enjoy listening to Ke$ha, Timbaland, etc.
Thats just my look on music
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