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Post by Joey on Jul 18, 2010 21:39:35 GMT -5
So if you know why te show is, what do you think of what they do? If you don't know it, google it.
I'll post my opinions later
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Post by bombmaniac on Jul 18, 2010 21:50:55 GMT -5
what they do is 100% illegal. there is nothing to debate. the japanese are under no obligation to accept australia's annexation of international waters especially since most of teh world doesnt. i do not understand how they could possibly get away with televising the committing of crimes and get away with it.
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Post by 4iner on Jul 18, 2010 21:57:31 GMT -5
what they do is 100% illegal. there is nothing to debate. the japanese are under no obligation to accept australia's annexation of international waters especially since most of teh world doesnt. i do not understand how they could possibly get away with televising the committing of crimes and get away with it. My thoughts exactly. What's preventing the Japanise whalers from mounting and firing torpedo launchers if the anti-whalers can do this?
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Post by bombmaniac on Jul 18, 2010 22:07:08 GMT -5
by the way...people...please dont make this thread about the whales...it's not. it's about the legality of what they do, as i understand it.
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Post by Joey on Jul 18, 2010 22:13:53 GMT -5
by the way...people...please dont make this thread about the whales...it's not. it's about the legality of what they do, as i understand it. Yes, this was made to be a legal debate. Anyway, I think the show is on tv cuz...well free speech I guess...but the IWC needs to do something, not allow that, but do something. Right now it's bad all around. I tend to forgive the anti-whalers because I tend to side with them on the morals battle, but they are clearly doing illegal things. I find the show quite interesting though, mostly because I like drama.
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Post by bombmaniac on Jul 18, 2010 22:18:57 GMT -5
thats nice...but their activities are illegal. 100%.
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Post by Joey on Jul 18, 2010 22:25:05 GMT -5
thats nice...but their activities are illegal. 100%. I know, what I'm saying is that the people who could and should be doing something aren't, and they need to. I agree that it is 100% illegal, and should definitely not be doing it, they should spend their time trying to get the IWC to do something.
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Post by bombmaniac on Jul 18, 2010 22:32:43 GMT -5
why? why should people be doing something about it? who cares? why not stop all fishing activities all over the world? besides...one of teh basic premises of the show is that the japanese are claiming the whales are for scientific research, the hosts of teh show claim theyre lying. something they never prove.
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Post by ItsCarterYo on Jul 19, 2010 2:33:37 GMT -5
OMG... I am NOT having this conversation. I've already had it with Asher. I never have much intelligent knowledge to add to any subject. And I am such a bad debtor that anything i support always "loses".
Debate: Whether or not the Earth is a sphere. Carter: It is. Final decision: The Earth is an icosahedron.
Which is why I will not be participating in this debate.
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Post by Joey on Jul 19, 2010 9:23:26 GMT -5
why? why should people be doing something about it? who cares? why not stop all fishing activities all over the world? besides...one of teh basic premises of the show is that the japanese are claiming the whales are for scientific research, the hosts of teh show claim theyre lying. something they never prove. In one episode they found a long line, which is a line of barbed rope that goes from the ocean floor to the surface, catching anything that hits it. It is illegal to do that, and stuff like that needs to be stopped. And as for the Japanese. the IWC and the government of Japan could investigate it. But no, because it makes money. And thats what its all about, money. We make money by killing whales, or we make money by not spending it investigating things that should be investigated. You know how everyone is all gung ho about saving the environment? Well it wont happen till people in charge do something. And what scientific research could you be doing, when you need many whales every single year?
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Post by bombmaniac on Jul 19, 2010 10:35:32 GMT -5
would you end all fishing worldwide?
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Post by Joey on Jul 19, 2010 14:38:07 GMT -5
would you end all fishing worldwide? No, fishing for fish, tuna, trout, salmon, is perfectly fine. Fishing for whales, which is illegal, I say no. So because people can hunt deer, that means we can let them hunt elephants?
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Post by zAkAtAk on Jul 19, 2010 14:41:24 GMT -5
FUCK YOU WHALES.
FUCK YOU DOLPHINS.
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Post by Joey on Jul 19, 2010 14:54:46 GMT -5
FUCK YOU WHALES. FUCK YOU DOLPHINS. Please do not rape the whales/dolphins. Thank you.
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Post by krzych32 on Jul 19, 2010 15:10:34 GMT -5
would you end all fishing worldwide? No, fishing for fish, tuna, trout, salmon, is perfectly fine. Fishing for whales, which is illegal, I say no. So because people can hunt deer, that means we can let them hunt elephants? Why not?
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Post by Joey on Jul 19, 2010 15:23:37 GMT -5
No, fishing for fish, tuna, trout, salmon, is perfectly fine. Fishing for whales, which is illegal, I say no. So because people can hunt deer, that means we can let them hunt elephants? Why not? Some elephants are endangered. Killing an animal if you are going to use all of the animal is fine. But killing an animal for certain parts(Ivory) is not. Killing for fun isnt either. If you sit in a tree and shoot anything that moves isnt right. If you hunt something thats LEGAL to hunt, and you use your skills wisely, AND you use the animal, then I believe its fine.
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Post by krzych32 on Jul 19, 2010 15:28:11 GMT -5
Some elephants are endangered. Killing an animal if you are going to use all of the animal is fine. But killing an animal for certain parts(Ivory) is not. Killing for fun isnt either. If you sit in a tree and shoot anything that moves isnt right. If you hunt something thats LEGAL to hunt, and you use your skills wisely, AND you use the animal, then I believe its fine. Using skills? Then why the fuck me invented guns for? And its not like we go after animals with tanks and predators (that would be fun BTW). I'm just trolling of course, I know what you are talking about.
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Post by zAkAtAk on Jul 19, 2010 15:29:19 GMT -5
I'm just trolling of course, I know what you are talking about. Saying that you are trolling is a bad troll move.
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Post by Joey on Jul 19, 2010 15:30:03 GMT -5
Some elephants are endangered. Killing an animal if you are going to use all of the animal is fine. But killing an animal for certain parts(Ivory) is not. Killing for fun isnt either. If you sit in a tree and shoot anything that moves isnt right. If you hunt something thats LEGAL to hunt, and you use your skills wisely, AND you use the animal, then I believe its fine. Using skills? Then why the fuck me invented guns for? And its not like we go after animals with tanks and predators (that would be fun BTW). I'm just trolling of course, I know what you are talking about. . I know. But for anyone else who would seriously ask Skills=tracking, watching, shooting, etc.
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Post by bombmaniac on Jul 19, 2010 17:38:04 GMT -5
someone please explain to me why whales would be any different than a salmon.
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