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Post by Ricky on Aug 6, 2010 23:43:46 GMT -5
In the case of your argument this type of logic would be flawed as it has been proven by science that people from all races are the same mentally and therefore capable of the same actions. I would be interested in reading the scientific study, Ricky. I saw a table once that had the average IQ of people from a bunch of different countries. Mongolia is a poor and somewhat undeveloped country, yet has a higher average IQ than countries such as France and the US. This would seem on the surface to show that Mongolians are more genetically intelligent on average than people from the US, although there could of course be other reasons for the apparent difference. In actuality differences in IQ numbers are due to cultural differences and depend highly on how the test was made. Languages as you might know are sometimes based mostly on verbal communication or focus almost specifically on a way of life, which cannot be accounted by IQ tests. There are several Psychological studies from which I base my information, if you want to I can show you, but to be honest I usually don't since people don't like to read 15 pages of information from usually 5 studies. But if you really want to I can get it for you.
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Post by 4iner on Aug 7, 2010 0:29:23 GMT -5
I would be interested in reading the scientific study, Ricky. I saw a table once that had the average IQ of people from a bunch of different countries. Mongolia is a poor and somewhat undeveloped country, yet has a higher average IQ than countries such as France and the US. This would seem on the surface to show that Mongolians are more genetically intelligent on average than people from the US, although there could of course be other reasons for the apparent difference. In actuality differences in IQ numbers are due to cultural differences and depend highly on how the test was made. Languages as you might know are sometimes based mostly on verbal communication or focus almost specifically on a way of life, which cannot be accounted by IQ tests. There are several Psychological studies from which I base my information, if you want to I can show you, but to be honest I usually don't since people don't like to read 15 pages of information from usually 5 studies. But if you really want to I can get it for you. It would be great if you could dig up 1 or 2 of them, if you have the time.
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Post by Joey on Aug 7, 2010 9:05:14 GMT -5
Ah! So your favorite color is orange. And you don't hate green. So what am I saying?
You see the two colors mentioned because they reflect light differently. The reflection of orange is your favorite. Even though it isn't your favorite, green dosent burn your eyes, because it's just a color. So then. Why does the color a persons skin reflects change the person? It's just the way your eyes and light waves work. Why should that change the person? Is a person from new York neccissarly smarter than a person from California? No. If twenty people from new York are arrested for child abuse, does that mean most people in new York commit child abuse? No. The things you hear about are always the minority.
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Post by Alex on Aug 7, 2010 10:16:08 GMT -5
Picnic, just to let you know, that type of argument will not have any effect on a racist person.
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Post by _nderscore on Aug 7, 2010 18:47:49 GMT -5
Ah! So your favorite color is orange. And you don't hate green. So what am I saying? You see the two colors mentioned because they reflect light differently. The reflection of orange is your favorite. Even though it isn't your favorite, green dosent burn your eyes, because it's just a color. So then. Why does the color a persons skin reflects change the person? It's just the way your eyes and light waves work. Why should that change the person? Is a person from new York neccissarly smarter than a person from California? No. If twenty people from new York are arrested for child abuse, does that mean most people in new York commit child abuse? No. The things you hear about are always the minority. You are seriously delusional.
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Post by Joey on Aug 7, 2010 21:21:25 GMT -5
Ah! So your favorite color is orange. And you don't hate green. So what am I saying? You see the two colors mentioned because they reflect light differently. The reflection of orange is your favorite. Even though it isn't your favorite, green dosent burn your eyes, because it's just a color. So then. Why does the color a persons skin reflects change the person? It's just the way your eyes and light waves work. Why should that change the person? Is a person from new York neccissarly smarter than a person from California? No. If twenty people from new York are arrested for child abuse, does that mean most people in new York commit child abuse? No. The things you hear about are always the minority. You are seriously delusional. I will accept that, as long ad you point out why. I wanna know!
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Post by iloveoscar on Aug 7, 2010 22:11:32 GMT -5
I really don't understand racism. I've seen quite a bit of it in the past few days. I mean, it's all evolution, really. I don't see such why its such an issue still. Humans evolved from ape-like creatures with lighter brown skin. When we migrated to other areas of the globe, we evolved traits for certain reasons. Those living in or around the Himalayas developed larger epicanthic folds on the eyes to reduce snow-blindness. Those near the equator developed darker skin to aid in protection against UV rays. Those in areas further from the equator developed lighter coloured skin and hair to aid in the absorption of Vitamin D from the sun. I mean, really, there's no real reason to consider anyone stupider or inferior because of their ethnicity. We're all the same species. Black people are not stupid simply because they are black. It is my belief that black people have a higher crime rate, a higher poverty rate, and a higher drug rate. They are less valuable to society and I wish them purged. preach bruh
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Post by _nderscore on Aug 8, 2010 19:51:21 GMT -5
You are seriously delusional. I will accept that, as long ad you point out why. I wanna know! You're saying that because of the way light reflects off a person means that they will act a certain way. I am saying that in general (a lot a lot a lot of people) that are black end up acting black.
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Post by Joey on Aug 8, 2010 20:32:11 GMT -5
I will accept that, as long ad you point out why. I wanna know! You're saying that because of the way light reflects off a person means that they will act a certain way. I am saying that in general (a lot a lot a lot of people) that are black end up acting black. Oh god. Compare these two sentences. Way light reflects=color=black as a color. You are saying that because of the way their color of skin is, they act a certain way, and the only reason their skin is that color, is becuase light reflects differently. So you are calling what I said insane, when it is you who are saying the thing. If light didnt reflect, they wouldnt be black.
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Post by Joey on Aug 8, 2010 20:33:49 GMT -5
basically my message is just because they are a certain color or come from a certain place dosent mean they are mostly chimos and rapists.
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Post by _nderscore on Aug 8, 2010 20:36:06 GMT -5
That doesn't change the fact that they are.
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Post by Joey on Aug 8, 2010 20:37:54 GMT -5
That doesn't change the fact that they are. And logic apparently just flew out the window. I now think you are a 100 percent troll. Convince me otherwise. If you really arent a troll, then use logic and discuss. Have an open mind. Believe what you want, but you have to be able to debate.
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Post by _nderscore on Aug 8, 2010 20:38:57 GMT -5
Ugh Picnic.
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Post by Joey on Aug 8, 2010 20:42:21 GMT -5
That is a statement. A debate is a rebuttal against someone elses claim. Sure, you believe they are. Tell me why. Show me facts. Give me reason. Show me what you believe and why. Thats the point of a debate. To show why you believe something. Do that, and your not a troll. Simply say "HA BLACKS SUCK!" Isnt a debate, its a troll-ish(Yes it is a word, yes i made it up) statement.
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Post by _nderscore on Aug 8, 2010 20:45:30 GMT -5
Do you not watch the news? Who do you see most frequently robbing stores? Who do you see the most making inappropriate remarks? Who is the most uneducated? Who is the most impoverished?
Is this what you wanted?
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Post by Lex on Aug 8, 2010 20:48:03 GMT -5
Do you not watch the news? Who do you see most frequently robbing stores? Who do you see the most making inappropriate remarks? Who is the most uneducated? Who is the most impoverished? Is this what you wanted? But we must consider why there are a large portion of under educated and impoverished blacks. It's not necessarily their fault (yes, actions like robbing stores are their fault, but not their situation). We should address the living conditions that breed criminals, not purge people based on genetics -- because not all criminals are black.
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Post by _nderscore on Aug 8, 2010 20:50:22 GMT -5
No, I agree. Not all criminals are black. That would be a foolish statement.
However, African Americans are way more likely to commit a crime or end up in jail. Wouldn't it be better if they were expunged from society (I am not saying that I will kill them all. I would never kill one. Just making that clear).
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Post by Joey on Aug 8, 2010 21:18:18 GMT -5
No, I agree. Not all criminals are black. That would be a foolish statement. However, African Americans are way more likely to commit a crime or end up in jail. Wouldn't it be better if they were expunged from society (I am not saying that I will kill them all. I would never kill one. Just making that clear). More whites use illegal drugs More blacks are arrested for using illegal drugs. Does that make sense? No.
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Post by Lex on Aug 8, 2010 21:28:11 GMT -5
However, African Americans are way more likely to commit a crime or end up in jail. But the African-American part isn't part of it. Just because they could be the majority in the crime-causing population in your area does not mean that its because they are African-American. It's a false correlation. Zoom out and look at the causes. We have to examine why a lot of African-Americans are raised in crime-breeding scenarios. It doesn't have to do with their genes, it has to do with their environment.
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Post by 4iner on Aug 8, 2010 21:44:04 GMT -5
More whites use illegal drugs More blacks are arrested for using illegal drugs. Does that make sense? No. This is correct. But just to clarify, a larger percentage of blacks use drugs than whites. Not sure if this has been said before, but it's very often that blacks are targeted by police. I have read that it's common for blacks to be pulled over at night without the police officer giving a reason (I assume they do this to search the car.)
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