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Post by Flappy on Dec 19, 2010 17:11:11 GMT -5
Most of you probably know the debate of "Nature Vs. Nurture":
Are we born with innate ideas/instincts, or are we born with a blank slate, and do our parents influence our instincts and ideas?
(correct me if this is incorrect)
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Post by Ricky on Dec 19, 2010 22:03:34 GMT -5
Its a combination of both, although most of it you learn and therefore is environmental. Things like laughter for example, is something we are born with, as people who are blind and deaf at the same time still laugh like anyone else which means its something we don't learn.
Also, some traits do come in our genes since studies have been done with kids who were adopted as babies, and there was still a strong similarity between the kids' way of thinking and rationalizing and their real parents.
Genes, nevertheless don't dictate who we are going to be. Identical twins who were separated after birth can have very different lives only due to the fact that the environment in which they grow is different.
So to answer your question... yes, and no
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Post by Flappy on Dec 19, 2010 22:46:23 GMT -5
But laughter is a reflex, it's not a trait of personality. (Everyone laughs). I think it is safe to say we are all born with innate reflexes. But I don't think reflexes are the same as knowledge or ideas, or what have you. I'm not saying we rely on nurture alone, but something that is common in every human being would really make no difference.
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Post by Lyserg Zeroz on Dec 19, 2010 23:01:05 GMT -5
I think we are born with some sort preset possibilities of how we can be depending on our environment. In other words I think that we are not born "in blank" but not comepletely predefined either. Everything plays a role.
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Post by Ricky on Dec 20, 2010 0:44:09 GMT -5
But laughter is a reflex, it's not a trait of personality. (Everyone laughs). I think it is safe to say we are all born with innate reflexes. But I don't think reflexes are the same as knowledge or ideas, or what have you. I'm not saying we rely on nurture alone, but something that is common in every human being would really make no difference. Like I said before: |
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Post by SwimFellow on Dec 20, 2010 1:02:38 GMT -5
We're born with instincts. Such as when we're underwater, we don't try to breath.. Depends on what ideas we're talking about. If we're talking politics, you get it from society, if we're talking about the arts, probably nature..
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Post by Lex on Dec 20, 2010 13:18:58 GMT -5
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_ReimerI watched a documentary on him a while ago, and it was interesting, showing how things like gender identity were nature rather than nurture. In terms of instincts and such, the story doesn't really have too much impact.
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Post by Joey on Dec 20, 2010 19:20:03 GMT -5
Could we be born without them, having them affected by the outside so to speak, but the way we receive and process these and turn them into our own are born with things.
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Post by qooqǝɯɐƃ on Dec 20, 2010 20:09:44 GMT -5
Most of you probably know the debate of "Nature Vs. Nurture": Are we born with innate ideas/instincts, or are we born with a blank slate, and do our parents influence our instincts and ideas? (correct me if this is incorrect) I believe we a born with distinct personalities (nature) which dictate how we think and what broad subjects we are interested in and such. And then as we grow we develop character (nurture), which, depending on how strong our character we develop, can go against our nature or complement it. I don't believe it's as simple as nature or nurture. It's both, as far as I've concluded. But I will have to go through the studies done by psychologists in the past to have any worthwhile opinion. |
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Post by Xanast on Dec 22, 2010 17:21:30 GMT -5
I believe that your personality is what you are born with, but your values are taught, imitated, or gained through experience.
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Post by Flappy on Dec 23, 2010 12:15:28 GMT -5
I completely disagree that we are born with our personalities. My personality has changed a lot of times...
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Post by stephen5000 on Dec 26, 2010 1:09:20 GMT -5
People seem to like attributing most things to genetics, bu my opinion is that while genetics does set up the potential, it's environment that determined most of what a person is like. It's just that many people (in the western world or indeed any particular culture) get a very similar upbringing, often geared towards existing physiological and historical attributes, such as "race" or gender.
We also have to take into account the physiological and chemical environment during pregnancy and during early life. This is actually neither nurture nor nature.
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