Flappy
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Feb 19, 2011 2:50:50 GMT -5
Post by Flappy on Feb 19, 2011 2:50:50 GMT -5
If someone wants to commit suicide, do you think they should have the right to take their life, or do you think you or someone else should interfere, and "save them" from it?
Also, do you think it should be illegal to attempt suicide?
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0netnet0
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Feb 19, 2011 5:21:53 GMT -5
Post by 0netnet0 on Feb 19, 2011 5:21:53 GMT -5
As one who hasn't had suicidal thoughts, I think that committing suicide is up to the person at hand. If they feel like they should take their life, they should also be able to comprehend what that means about them, what will happen afterwords, everything they could miss...
I think that "saving" someone from suicide is an inaccurate term. What are you "saving" them from, really? From death? From hell? Are you just "saving" them so you don't need to see them go? To even want to commit suicide, one needs to be in a very stressful and extreme distress. To get to that stage, one would need time. By the time they come to the absolute conclusion that they want to die - I say, let them. I'm not saying "Yea, everyone can commit suicide but I don't care," I'm saying that there's no real reason why we should prevent someone from doing what they think is right. I mean, it's not harming anyone else's rights...
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Flappy
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Feb 19, 2011 10:20:13 GMT -5
Post by Flappy on Feb 19, 2011 10:20:13 GMT -5
As one who hasn't had suicidal thoughts, I think that committing suicide is up to the person at hand. If they feel like they should take their life, they should also be able to comprehend what that means about them, what will happen afterwords, everything they could miss... Yeah. I've found suicide to be one of the biggest forms of selfishness (because you're not only taking your life away from yourself, but from everyone else you know, and everyone who loves you), but in some cases, that is inaccurate. I haven't quite organized my thoughts on the subject as a whole yet, though. I agree, hence the quotation marks. I just used that term because it's all I could think of at the time. No, not harming their rights, but it may be harming them (other people) mentally. Again, I'm still not entirely sure of my opinion on the subject.
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Feb 19, 2011 11:33:27 GMT -5
Post by Lyserg Zeroz on Feb 19, 2011 11:33:27 GMT -5
I think that if someones wants to commit suicide, he/she has the right to do it. But I also think that if anyone is there, that knows or suspects about it, they shoud try to do everything they can to stop the suicide. I think that sometimes people don't see many of the things that they have or can have and need someone else to help them and cheer them up. So to answer the first question: Both.
I guess suicide can be seen as selffish, and it may be, but if the suicidal person really can't be convinced of living and has a really sucky life, then I'd say that, if you are someone who cares for the person, presenting the argument of "you are being selfish, I care for you" would be at least a little bit selfish considering that you want a person to live a sucky and depressing life (assuming something like that is the reason for the suicide impulses) for other people.
Then again, not every suicide is the same and everything depends on the conditions of the suicide attempt.
To the second question: Illegal? Idk about that. How would that work?
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Feb 19, 2011 15:45:16 GMT -5
Post by Ryan on Feb 19, 2011 15:45:16 GMT -5
Who's to say what rights we have and what rights we don't have? Sure there are provisos that can punish us for disturbing public peace (i.e. laws), but what's to stop you from breaking a law? Nothing except the fear of the consequence. Otherwise - you accept the consequence and go ahead with the action anyway.
I'm not supporting suicide - I'm arguing that it's silly to argue over whether someone has the right to attempt it or not.
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ryan
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Feb 20, 2011 0:10:10 GMT -5
Post by ryan on Feb 20, 2011 0:10:10 GMT -5
wow...i think that its there right to die if they want to ....your only really saving them from themselves
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Quinn
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Feb 20, 2011 1:48:16 GMT -5
Post by Quinn on Feb 20, 2011 1:48:16 GMT -5
If someone truly understands what a miracle it is to even be alive, and the potential for greatness that comes along with that miracle... than they would never want to kill themselves.
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Feb 20, 2011 2:25:37 GMT -5
Post by Draemora on Feb 20, 2011 2:25:37 GMT -5
If someone truly understands what a miracle it is to even be alive, and the potential for greatness that comes along with that miracle... than they would never want to kill themselves. Life isn't that wonderful for everyone, some people can't help but feel helpless and useless. Besides, from a philosophical standpoint... What's the point of living? To feel, to procreate, to think? For what purpose, to continue our existence? Suicide just cuts it short, no need to worry about trivialities in the grand scheme of existence. The only reason as to why I haven't killed myself is curiosity toward science, traveling, and maybe a relationship (no children). Even then, it's all pointless... It's just morbid curiosity that drives me, and when that spark dies, so will I in one way or another. Certain people can't run off "potential", they need the feeling now because they have been deprived. The "potential" to be happy "in the future" after years of "hard work" is not enough, and even then... What will happiness be? Too much uncertainty and unfairness; if someone wants to cut their gamble of a life short, let them.
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Feb 20, 2011 14:56:57 GMT -5
Post by Flags_Forever on Feb 20, 2011 14:56:57 GMT -5
If someone truly understands what a miracle it is to even be alive, and the potential for greatness that comes along with that miracle... than they would never want to kill themselves. I don't think that's entirely fair. I think that many many people who commit suicide do realize what they're giving up, but are just in so much pain, and suffering so badly, they just want it to stop. Not everyone is strong enough look past the sorrow they feel at that moment and carry on until things get better. It's sad, it's tragic, and it's a terrible waste, but people who appreciate and understand the great miracle of life can sometimes honestly want to die.
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Feb 21, 2011 11:51:01 GMT -5
Post by Joey on Feb 21, 2011 11:51:01 GMT -5
I think that people who attempt suicide are(obviously) in serious depression. And as much as we dont make it to be, depression is a mental illness. So we should be getting better and faster help for people that suffer from it, and we all need to watch out for each other. I also think that a suicidal person has no right to take away their own life, because they are mentally ill. They need someone to help them through their problems almost 24/7. We also need to treat others a hell of a lot better. We never know what they think.
Yea I know I sound like a teacher or something but seriously, we really do need to fix all the bullying SHIRT and stuff for kids. Its not good.
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Feb 21, 2011 13:36:34 GMT -5
Post by Flags_Forever on Feb 21, 2011 13:36:34 GMT -5
Yea I know I sound like a teacher or something but seriously, we really do need to fix all the bullying SHIRT and stuff for kids. Its not good. No, I'm tired of it, as well. I'm getting sick of school shootings and the like.
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Feb 26, 2011 17:37:35 GMT -5
Post by qooqǝɯɐƃ on Feb 26, 2011 17:37:35 GMT -5
Yay, Suicide! We could use less people in teh world! =]
Trollolololol... I keed. Suicide is sad. But suicidal people are messed in the head, literally. They should get help. Easier said than done, but yea...
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Feb 27, 2011 3:49:49 GMT -5
Post by Draemora on Feb 27, 2011 3:49:49 GMT -5
I also think that a suicidal person has no right to take away their own life, because they are mentally ill. They need someone to help them through their problems almost 24/7. We also need to treat others a hell of a lot better. We never know what they think. Not necessarily. Some people are not ill, others are. Some loose the will to live, some loose their family. For some life is torture, while life tortures others. For some people, for X or Y reason that is completely rational, death is the logical option. Having people show them the "error" of their ways or a "better" way will just aggravate them. Some people just can't be happy. As for the others... Yes, more attention can help, but a lot of people are working on that already.
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Post by hayleymills on Mar 2, 2011 3:33:30 GMT -5
people who commit suicide will rot in hell.
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Post by Alex on Mar 2, 2011 6:18:40 GMT -5
people who commit suicide will rot in hell. Well you better make friends with them, you'll be there too!
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Post by Flags_Forever on Mar 2, 2011 8:38:18 GMT -5
people who commit suicide will rot in hell. TROLL!!!!
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