Flappy
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Post by Flappy on Mar 27, 2011 23:23:56 GMT -5
I don't want this thread to have any relation to Mormonism or anything regarding religion. But I'm sure it will be brought up, so just try to keep it at a minimum, please.
What are your views on Polygamy?
Polygamy: The act of having multiple spouses.
Personally, I have no moral obligation to it. I think if someone is in love with more than one person they should have the legal right to marry all of them.
I don't think a person should have the ability to force someone into marriage, and I think if a person (let's say a man, is married to a woman, and he wants to marry another woman, I think him and his current wife should have to both agree, legally, to the marriage. I also think it should be allowed for a couple, as a married couple to marry another person. Basically, they'd all be married. If that makes sense.)
What do you think? Please provide reasons too.
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Post by Lex on Mar 27, 2011 23:47:36 GMT -5
Actually yeah, I basically agree with what you posted above. I mean, I'd never have a polygamous marriage, or be in a polyamourous relationship -- but it really doesn't matter to me if other people want to do it, and everyone involved consents.
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Post by Freddy on Mar 27, 2011 23:53:31 GMT -5
^that.
I don't see any problem if all people involved agree.
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Post by Draemora on Mar 28, 2011 0:31:19 GMT -5
They should also allow spouses to have multiple husbands, as long as everyone agrees.
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Post by Lex on Mar 28, 2011 0:32:57 GMT -5
How about multiple husbands AND wives? Or is that tipping the controversy cart?
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Post by Freddy on Mar 28, 2011 7:30:10 GMT -5
That'd be the best case scenario, but most people would only agree on men having multiple spouses, but not the other way around. :/
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Post by Chelsea on Mar 28, 2011 10:40:44 GMT -5
I don't agree with polygamy. For one thing, it's sexist, since only men are allowed to have multiple wives, but not the other way around. It goes against my belief of marriage is supposed to stand for. Marriage is about love, and men who marry a bunch of women don't love them all. Not too long ago I read something about the largest family in the world.. this man has like 30 wives and he basically sees a woman that he thinks is pretty and asks her to marry him... that's not love. And even if a man just took like 2 or 3 wives, I don't think it's possible for him to love them as much as they each could love him, because the wives can each give themselves 100% to him, but he can only give 1/3 of himself to each of 3 wives (arithmetic!) ohcrapineedtogotoclassthispostiskindatruncatedbye
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Post by Insane_Zang on Mar 28, 2011 11:13:45 GMT -5
or anything regarding religion.
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Post by krzych32 on Mar 28, 2011 12:11:26 GMT -5
I don't agree with polygamy. For one thing, it's sexist, since only men are allowed to have multiple wives, but not the other way around. It goes against my belief of marriage is supposed to stand for. Marriage is about love, and men who marry a bunch of women don't love them all. Not too long ago I read something about the largest family in the world.. this man has like 30 wives and he basically sees a woman that he thinks is pretty and asks her to marry him... that's not love. And even if a man just took like 2 or 3 wives, I don't think it's possible for him to love them as much as they each could love him, because the wives can each give themselves 100% to him, but he can only give 1/3 of himself to each of 3 wives (arithmetic!) ohcrapineedtogotoclassthispostiskindatruncatedbye But who are we to stop them? You may dislike this kind of relationship but no one is forcing you into one, if they choose to be in one they have a right to do so.
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Post by Lex on Mar 28, 2011 12:43:26 GMT -5
Compare this to, say, the drive-through weddings of Las Vegas. Those are considered perfectly acceptable and legal in society. So why not multiple spouses?
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Post by austkyzor on Mar 28, 2011 12:55:12 GMT -5
ChelseaUm - where in the definition does it say that only men can have multiple wives? And, of course, you're blatently assuming that ALL polyamourous relationships are situations where they don't all love each other. Group marriages happen all the time - albiet not legally - and in every polyamourous situation I know of all people involved are perfectly happy. So, if they're happy, and they all love each other equally, why should we force them to conform to xenophobic, sexist standards?
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Post by Flags_Forever on Mar 28, 2011 13:05:52 GMT -5
ChelseaUm - where in the definition does it say that only men can have multiple wives? And, of course, you're blatently assuming that ALL polyamourous relationships are situations where they don't all love each other. Group marriages happen all the time - albiet not legally - and in every polyamourous situation I know of all people involved are perfectly happy. So, if they're happy, and they all love each other equally, why should we force them to conform to xenophobic, sexist standards? Thank you Aust, I was about to say that. Yeah, um, it's fine. As long as everyone involved agrees, I don't think it's a problem.
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Post by Chelsea on Mar 28, 2011 17:35:27 GMT -5
ChelseaUm - where in the definition does it say that only men can have multiple wives? And, of course, you're blatently assuming that ALL polyamourous relationships are situations where they don't all love each other. Group marriages happen all the time - albiet not legally - and in every polyamourous situation I know of all people involved are perfectly happy. So, if they're happy, and they all love each other equally, why should we force them to conform to xenophobic, sexist standards? It doesn't necessarily say in the definition that it can't be a woman with multiple husbands, but I've never heard of that happening in today's society. And yes, I'm assuming that all of these relationships are situations where they don't ALL love each other because I don't think it's possible for a group of people to ALL share romantic feelings. Maybe they are all happy, and maybe they even all love each other, but that's far from meaning that they all share romantic feelings. I also never said we should (or have any right to) stop people from practicing polygamy... Marriage means different things in different cultures and even though I'm against it because I think marriage should be about love, in other cultures that isn't the case, and so polygamy might be a good idea.
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Post by Draemora on Mar 28, 2011 18:40:37 GMT -5
This got fiesty... lol Chelsie was probably talking about traditional polygamy, her point stands. Traditional polygamy is biased while (idk general polygamy?) is pretty much acceptable.
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Post by austkyzor on Mar 28, 2011 19:46:52 GMT -5
Traditional views (basically the Mormon version) vs Actual views notwithstanding - it's, in the end, none of our business.
There's a great quote from The Right Honourable Pierre Elliot Trudeau (Former Prime Minister of Canada) - "The Government has no business in the bedrooms of the Nation" - now, at the time he was talking about divorce, and how he was justified in legalizing it, but that line applies to everybody in every situation - what occurs in one's bedroom is only the business of those in it - now, if something like rape or paedophelia occurs, the injured party automatically makes it the government's business, but in a situation between ~CONSENTING ADULTS~ there shouldn't be much of a problem - sorta like "Don't ask, don't tell, and even if you are asked, STILL don't tell, and slap the person who asked in the face"
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Post by Ryan on Mar 28, 2011 19:47:07 GMT -5
There are many mongolian tribes that are matriarchal in nature and polygamy is quite common where a woman accepts multiple husbands. As the tribes are small, reproduction is not important, but hard labor is and so instead of bearing lots of children from multiple wives, the tribe focuses more on the labor of survival where the mothers of the tribe raise their children equally regardless of by which spouse the child was conceived.
Polygamy is not for me, but if it's for you then that's good too.
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Post by 0netnet0 on Mar 29, 2011 6:16:12 GMT -5
And yes, I'm assuming that all of these relationships are situations where they don't ALL love each other because I don't think it's possible for a group of people to ALL share romantic feelings. Maybe they are all happy, and maybe they even all love each other, but that's far from meaning that they all share romantic feelings. I also never said we should (or have any right to) stop people from practicing polygamy... Marriage means different things in different cultures and even though I'm against it because I think marriage should be about love, in other cultures that isn't the case, and so polygamy might be a good idea. But - what if the entire group does love and share romantic feelings with the entire group? I know for a fact that romantic relations can spread out to more than just between two people. I think they should have every right to be married. (Then again they should have the right to be married even if they're not in love. But anyway) If everyone in that group are consenting adults who understand the consequences of their actions, there is no reason under the sun why they should not get married if they want to. And if they don't love each other or regret their decision, they can divorce from the group just like a normal couple would.
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Post by forthelasttime on Mar 29, 2011 8:38:04 GMT -5
Why is polygamy only acceptable for men and not women? For the same reason that promiscuous men are legends whereas promiscuous women are whores. A key that opens many locks is a master key; a lock opened by many keys is a shitty lock. So said Confucius.
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Post by Lex on Mar 29, 2011 11:32:03 GMT -5
Why is polygamy only acceptable for men and not women? For the same reason that promiscuous men are legends whereas promiscuous women are whores. A key that opens many locks is a master key; a lock opened by many keys is a shitty lock. So said Confucius. Such is disgusting, sexist thinking that promotes gender roles.
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Post by Ryan on Mar 29, 2011 12:01:52 GMT -5
Why is polygamy only acceptable for men and not women? For the same reason that promiscuous men are legends whereas promiscuous women are whores. A key that opens many locks is a master key; a lock opened by many keys is a shitty lock. So said Confucius. Such is disgusting, sexist thinking that promotes gender roles. Troll meme - not said by Confucius.
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