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Post by eod89 on Apr 1, 2010 2:22:04 GMT -5
I'm curious what the pogotribe thinks about internet anonymity.
I believe that it's a double-edged sword. Potentially, anonymity can lead to some pretty raw discussion. unfortunately, as the case with a few more popular anonymous online communities like 4chan.org, it can also lead to some pretty regrettable things.
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Post by Nakor on Apr 1, 2010 2:30:02 GMT -5
Well-moderated anonymity can work well however. Slashdot, while an imperfect example by any stretch of the imagination, does show this to some extent.
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Post by eod89 on Apr 1, 2010 2:37:54 GMT -5
I would love to check it out.
4chan's /b/ is far too large to moderate properly, but even when it was a much smaller community, they seemed to naturally moved in the direction of the "Internet hate machine" (as Fox News dramatically puts it). I guess certain communities attract certain people.
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Post by Nakor on Apr 1, 2010 2:43:04 GMT -5
I think it would be modable, but moot doesn't really want to do it. I think he kind of sees it as a way to contain all that garbage in one place, as it were. Or rather, there actually are mods on 4chan, but (at least on /b/) they pretty much let anything slide, because that is the way moot decided to let the site continue to exist. Whether that's a good thing or a bad thing for the Internet as a whole I'll let others decide. Oh. And while Fox News tends to exaggerate most things... I'm pretty sure they got 4chan right.
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Post by eod89 on Apr 1, 2010 2:58:03 GMT -5
Moot had admitted that 4chan was in a state of a drastic moderator shortage. I had a brief conversation with him and he told me that there are fewer moderators on sight than there are boards.
One thing that interest's me is Moot's confidence in anonymous communication rather than persistent user identity. He did an interview with CNN and he lectured on TED.
I'm not convinced that Moot thinks /b/ is garbage. I think, considering /b/ was the very first board on 4chan, Moot has a soft spot in his heart for it.
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Post by Nakor on Apr 1, 2010 14:26:58 GMT -5
Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying 4chan is well moderated; I'm just saying it would be possible to moderate it well should the staff decide to make that effort.
And you may be right about moot and /b/.
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Post by Joey on Apr 1, 2010 14:30:41 GMT -5
Well our Triad Project is based on Anonymity, and its working out well. The three of us can controll it because every thing goes through us and then we post it.
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Post by eod89 on Apr 3, 2010 4:01:46 GMT -5
Well our Triad Project is based on Anonymity, and its working out well. The three of us can controll it because every thing goes through us and then we post it. I guess there is a big difference between small anonymous communities and large anonymous communities. Larger communities develop their own sort of culture, and after that culture develops, people who frequent the community seem to conform to the culture.
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Post by eod89 on Apr 3, 2010 4:28:12 GMT -5
Well our Triad Project is based on Anonymity, and its working out well. The three of us can controll it because every thing goes through us and then we post it. I guess there is a big difference between small anonymous communities and large anonymous communities. Larger communities develop their own sort of culture, and after that culture develops, people who frequent the community seem to conform to the culture. Attachments:
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Post by RabbitWho on Apr 3, 2010 13:00:45 GMT -5
A lot of the time anonymity just leads to an opportunity to express all your frustration. You end up saying things you don't even mean because you're frustrated about something else, and you end up forming a real concrete opinion about something while you're in a bad mood that carries over into the rest of your life.
Funny how you say "you" when you mean "I" sometimes.
But yeah, there are some personal topics on this board that I can't talk about because I don't feel i have anonymity with this screen name.
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Post by Nakor on Apr 3, 2010 15:47:29 GMT -5
Well our Triad Project is based on Anonymity, and its working out well. The three of us can controll it because every thing goes through us and then we post it. I guess there is a big difference between small anonymous communities and large anonymous communities. Larger communities develop their own sort of culture, and after that culture develops, people who frequent the community seem to conform to the culture. It would be really interesting to test that theory on a community as large as 4chan and fully anonymous, but at the same time as well moderated as, say, Slashdot. I wonder if Slashdot, were it fully anonymous rather than just having the option of being so, would become the melting pot you hypothesize, continue to be full of the debate it's known for, or something else altogether.
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Post by RabbitWho on Apr 9, 2010 8:29:10 GMT -5
Hey, sorry to bump an old thread, but what about we all put our names in our signatures or our special titles? I think it could make a difference to how we behave towards each other if we both use our real names and know the name of the person we're talking to.
It's gonna be hard enough to keep this a tribe as it grows, as they keep saying the natural number is 120. Anything we can do to increase our ability to feel connected to 121 can only help.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 9, 2010 9:26:20 GMT -5
then from now on my name is S A L M O N nah, everyone can know my name is Rik Hannon, I've no problem with that. Besides, if you google it, you get to some 80 year old artist. Which is not me.
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Post by lucytie on Apr 11, 2010 20:37:31 GMT -5
I think anonymity is important if you have something you really believe but you are insecure about criticism. While if you believe in something you shouldnt worry about something challenging it, there are many people who are scared to say things because of how people will react. Anonymity empowers these people to say what they want. However it can go beyond that and into flat out trolling.
However I think if you are fervent about stating something and defending it you cant hide you are. You have to be willing to say this is me and this is what I believe.
Anonymity is basically stage one in coming out to share your beliefs. The more confident you become, the less anonymity you need to use.
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Post by eod89 on Apr 12, 2010 18:08:51 GMT -5
I feel pretty cool when somebody else bumps my thread. I'll go along with that. I think, in a community like the pogotribe, we should be familiar with our actual identities rather than a screen name and signature.
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Post by ninjaearl on Apr 12, 2010 18:19:28 GMT -5
I tend to prefer anonymity in a post-google world where any tidbits of your identity left anywhere on the internet can ultimately be traced to you if need be. I utilize tor and usually make multiple accounts on every website I visit and actually use each one, typically.
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Post by lucytie on Apr 12, 2010 18:21:03 GMT -5
haha sorry, only just noticed the topic was totally digressed from, i was kinda just flipping through forums and replying
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