Ghosts/Paranormal Activity?

[Mira]

Do you believe in ghosts or paranormal activity?

If yes, explain why you do.
If not, explain why you don't.

Discuss!

[stephen5000]

I don't, but then I don't believe in anything supernatural. Their doesn't seem to be any concrete proof that ghosts exist. And if they do, what are they made of?

[omgpokemon]

I don't really, because their isn't enough proof, but I like the concept of ghosts and aliens and everything like that. Wouldn't it be cool to stay on earth when you die, freaking people out and going through walls, all that stereotypical ghost stuff?
...But if everyone became ghosts when they die, wouldn't creepy, perverted guys watch women shower and change, since the women couldn't do anything about it? (lol, I can't believe I really said that ;D)

[Deleted]

I voted "I don't know" because I can't know for sure that this isn't true..

[Silverrida]

I'm going to vote no. There is absolutely no evidence, empirical or otherwise, of the existence of ghosts or any form of paranormal activity. In fact, there is a museum somewhere that, if you can prove paranormal activity exists, they will give you, I believe, $100,000.

[sightedkarma]

I think there is a distinct possibility.
I know I've had my own experiences with it. But as a Scientist I look at it this way...

There are, and always be things that we cant explain. Now in history that equaled humans creating gods to explain natural things that they didn't understand yet. The Sun God, the God of Rain...and the like, because they didn't understand what caused them. The Sun rises and sets because of the earths rotation around it, it rains when the cumulus clouds are at the right height and pressure and all that jazz (not a meteoroligist)

But look at it this way. How many of you can't say you've ever been walking alone and felt eyes on you, looked around and had no explanation for the feeling? You've never been in a house alone and things happened you couldn't logically explain.

I'm not saying that DO exist, I'm simply stating there is always a possibility.

I DO believe in spirits and spirit energy though, while they may or may not extend to actual ghosts and physical embodiments is another question.

[Lex]

The closest thing to ghosts I've ever experienced were the voices in the walls when I was prescribed Ritalin as an eight year old.

[ligerman30]

There is common knowlegde evidence of the paranormal i.e. cold spots. When ever an apirition comes to manifest itself it creates a cold spot this is very commin in hauntings also, there are very intelegent spirits. For example, certain spirits you can ask questions by taking a flashlight and making it easy to press. and saying if the answer is yes, turn on the flashlight. On one episode of ghost hunters they got it down to an age and gender basis for one ghost using that very method. Later, they looked up the guy using the info and they found who the spirit really was. The evidence of ghosts are undeniable. Hauntings do happen there just very uncommon. Ask any paranormal expert and they all use THE SAME techniques to detect a ghost meaning there is a common knowlegde of how ghosts work. sometimes you can knock and they will knock back. ect. there is sooooo much evidence it alsost ridiculous to say otherwise. Try to debunk those previous claims.

[ligerman30]

Also people have seen ghosts and mistaken them for people. And when they vanish people freak out.

[hey light]

I don't believe at all. Most ghost sightings and actions can be explained by certain electromagnetic phenomena (i.e. feeling like you're being watched, hearing things, etc.) like electricity from power lines , electricity from rock with unusual properties (such as granite).

[ligerman30]

Apr 5, 2010 5:46:50 GMT -5 hey light said:

I don't believe at all. Most ghost sightings and actions can be explained by certain electromagnetic phenomena (i.e. feeling like you're being watched, hearing things, etc.) like electricity from power lines , electricity from rock with unusual properties (such as granite).

that is true, however this is not allways the case any reasonable paranormal investigator checks for these kinds of things and debunks them if that is the case and tell the owner they live in a fear trap. also explain evps we have proved over and over and over we have audio of ghosts talking. Also, a couple of times we caught pictures of ghosts.

[hey light]

Apr 5, 2010 5:53:38 GMT -5 ligerman30 said:

Apr 5, 2010 5:46:50 GMT -5 hey light said:

I don't believe at all. Most ghost sightings and actions can be explained by certain electromagnetic phenomena (i.e. feeling like you're being watched, hearing things, etc.) like electricity from power lines , electricity from rock with unusual properties (such as granite).

that is true, however this is not allways the case any reasonable paranormal investigator checks for these kinds of things and debunks them if that is the case and thell the owner they live in a fear trap also explain evps we have proved over and over and over we have audio of ghosts talking. Also, a couple of times we caught pictures of ghosts.

They aren't pictures of ghosts. They're just pictures of nothing that look like ghosts because of two psychological effects: patternicity and the priming effect. Patternicity makes people see patterns where they don't exist because that's what they expect to be there, and the Priming effect, whereby data is interpreted in an expected model, which can sometimes distort the truth.

[RabbitWho]

I want them to be real, because if they are real then souls exist. But at the same time I don't want them to be real, because wandering the earth for eternity is the last thing I want to do.

Then again if THIS isn't evidence, then I don't know what is:

[hey light]

Apr 5, 2010 6:20:31 GMT -5 RabbitWho said:

I want them to be real, because if they are real then souls exist. But at the same time I don't want them to be real, because wandering the earth for eternity is the last thing I want to do.

Then again if THIS isn't evidence, then I don't know what is:

And........it isn't! That's just a picture of nothing in particular, and it could have been shopped.

[Engesa Green once more]

Apr 5, 2010 6:20:31 GMT -5 RabbitWho said:

I want them to be real, because if they are real then souls exist. But at the same time I don't want them to be real, because wandering the earth for eternity is the last thing I want to do.

Then again if THIS isn't evidence, then I don't know what is:

On that picture you can see nothing... sorry to say it but it's just very bad quality and nothing can be seen... I can see a door and some red... is that a ghost?

if that was the best evidence there is ghosts do not exist.

[Ferrrrrre]

I believe that we
don't know EVERYTHING,
aren't able so feel, see, ... EVERYTHING
so therefore I give the whole paranormality the benefit of the doubt, don't say it exists nor denying it doesn't... I do believe that there are things that we CAN'T explain (= "supernatural"?! or not?") but if those things are really the things we think about when we hear supernatural and paranormal.. I don't know..

as for the footage, we can't really trust the credibility of pictures, videos etc. because we have Photoshop and all sorts of editing programs and even in real life things can be quite confusing now that we have computer and special effects... so I don't know...

that's just my opinion

[RabbitWho]

Apr 5, 2010 6:53:22 GMT -5 Engesa Green once more said:

Apr 5, 2010 6:20:31 GMT -5 RabbitWho said:

I want them to be real, because if they are real then souls exist. But at the same time I don't want them to be real, because wandering the earth for eternity is the last thing I want to do.

Then again if THIS isn't evidence, then I don't know what is:

On that picture you can see nothing... sorry to say it but it's just very bad quality and nothing can be seen... I can see a door and some red... is that a ghost?

if that was the best evidence there is ghosts do not exist.

Ha ha that was my whole point.
This picture illustrates all of the problems very blatantly.

You see the woman, so you're looking for something, it's blurry and poor quality and even if you did see something it wouldn't mean anything because it could easily be fake.

There was a talk on ted before about how something like 80% of what we see is literally based on our expectation. We just see little bits and our brain fills in the blanks, I can't find the video for the life of me though. The point is our brains are wired to find recognizable patterns everywhere and we'll change what we're actually looking at to fit those patterns.


(it's pretty much been established this has nothing to do with the what side of your brain you use more, so ignore that bit)



You'll probably see the duck first, but if you look for the rabbit you'll see the rabbit.


This is not what I was looking for at all but does mention some similar topics

www.ted.com/talks/beau_lotto_optical_illusions_show_how_we_see.html

[Ferrrrrre]

RabbitWho also we try to recognize things in blurry or unknown patterns, like the face expressions some people find on cars.. and most people aren't able to once they recognize something in a blurry picture or realise what it really is, to see the old thing the saw in it

[ligerman30]

if you think ghosts don't exist explain evps cold spots i dare you to even TRY to explain those you have alot of those to explain that's not the only picture of a ghost look at this one

[ligerman30]

check out these sites www.angelsghosts.com/famous_real_ghost_pictures.html www.ghostresearch.org/ghostpics/ find a way to debunk all of them ect. you might have an arguement and even if you do it's still not a very good one because you lack to explain evps, cold spots, and many many many many many stories. good luck, you'll need it. if you say all of them are photo shopped than occomus razor disproves that.