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Post by RorySBarnes on Apr 3, 2010 13:09:05 GMT -5
Okay, I was recently looking through the most popular videos on YouTube at the moment (like, todays most viewed and whatnot) and I was thinking: "Holy crapola, all of this is either Basketball, celebrities (including people such as RWJ) movie trailers or video games! What gives?" And I came to a conclusion:
THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS ORIGINAL CONTENT ON THE INTERNET ANYMORE
Why? Well, anything that can be done on the internet (for example, a video tutorial on how to solve a Rubik's Cube) has a 99.99% chance of it already being done! What about a tutorial on how to beat a level in the new game "DEATH NINJA KILL ASSASSIN?!!" you might say. Well, that isn't OC, because that's just you playing a videogame.
So, my fellow Tribe members, what are your thoughts on the existance of Original Content on the internet? I'm really hoping you answer, I'm probably going to make a video about this some time soon.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 3, 2010 14:17:53 GMT -5
The thing is that in not even one media format there CAN be truly original content. Some content is more creative than other. Even if you make something "new", there will always be influences from other things and that has always been like that. That doesn't mean that everything is repetetive and/or boring, but it just means that it's impossible to be 100% creative.
That said, I'm sure that there is stuff that can still be done on the internet that has never been done 100% exactly as you do it, because if nothing is 100% original, nothing can be 100% the same either..
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Post by Silverrida on Apr 3, 2010 15:19:00 GMT -5
This is actually largely discussed in other circles. The best example I can think of at the moment would be literature. The idea is that there are 7 basic stories that are only retold in different ways. It has become the way you do something that makes it original. In that sense, there is OC everywhere. Almost everyone has a unique style of gaming, presenting information, vloging, etc. The action itself is not new, but it is enhanced differently.
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Post by Johncoyne on Apr 3, 2010 15:20:19 GMT -5
-This is where someone posts something about modern art-
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Post by TheIslander on Apr 3, 2010 15:25:10 GMT -5
So many minds, so little thoughts.
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Post by imtwenty on Apr 3, 2010 15:54:40 GMT -5
So many minds, so little thoughts. this whole thread just got pwn'd!
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Post by Silverrida on Apr 3, 2010 15:57:07 GMT -5
So many minds, so little thoughts. this whole thread just got pwn'd! I'm fairly certain he was referring to the world and the lack of a new idea from such a large group of creative people.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 3, 2010 15:59:12 GMT -5
^^yeah, probably but even if you say people are creating new things, they're never 100% original, I'll stick to that till I die XD
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Post by RabbitWho on Apr 3, 2010 17:07:12 GMT -5
My first week of art college our sculpture teacher told us everything had already been done and there were no new ideas left.
I said "Rubbish! You don't think people were saying that 100 years ago!?" and he said "Yes, and they were right!" I simply couldn't take anyone who thought nothing new had been done in the previous 100 years seriously.
Here's another point: think of the light-bulb and a few other inventions, invented in two places around the world at almost the same time. Quite often I would have an idea in art class and then go to a gallery somewhere or look at one online and find that someone else had had the EXACT same idea but beaten me by 2 years, if you don't make it, someone else will, because the human race is a collective, now more than ever. But even if we were connected by nothing, i don't know how, but I think we are evolving together. I think if the internet hadn't been invented by that English guy who's name escapes me then someone else would have invented it a few years later, because we were ready for it. There are new ideas because there are only a set number of ideas humans are capable of at any given time, but there are ones no one is capable of yet.. but we will be. We have to take baby steps towards them first, and we have to share knowledge to get there faster. There's an idea in "Life is Elsewhere" by Milan Kundera that all of human thoughts are kept in a great library, and we never own our thoughts we simply borrow them and return them. That''s wonderful, it says to me that evolution is god and every time we evolve there's an extra room opened in the library and maybe an old one closes. An extra room full of thought-books but we have to find them and read them, and oh the honor of having the first stamp on a new book!
I used to believe when I was a kid that everything you were capable of knowing you already knew, you just had to remember it. Because it always felt like remembering when I learned something new. It turns out some old Greek philosopher had the same idea, that always happens to me, but in fairness it might have been presented to me as an idea in a cartoon I don't remember.
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Post by Felix on Apr 3, 2010 18:03:48 GMT -5
I actually had the exact same situation when we learned about greek philosophy in school. I kind of already knew everything. I like the idea of a collective mind or a "library" as you call it. I've been thinking the same way, it's good to know that i'm not alone with my thoughts btw listen to the band tool, almost everything they say is based on this thought of "collectiveness" ^^ and to the actual topic: i think there's always going to be new original content, the best example is music: while you can say that there is no band like led zeppelin today, you can also say that there was no meshuggah-math-metal back then and that's how it evolves.
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Post by RabbitWho on Apr 3, 2010 18:33:56 GMT -5
I actually had the exact same situation when we learned about greek philosophy in school. I kind of already knew everything. I like the idea of a collective mind or a "library" as you call it. I've been thinking the same way, it's good to know that i'm not alone with my thoughts btw listen to the band tool, almost everything they say is based on this thought of "collectiveness" ^^ and to the actual topic: i think there's always going to be new original content, the best example is music: while you can say that there is no band like led zeppelin today, you can also say that there was no meshuggah-math-metal back then and that's how it evolves. Cool! Jung = awesome. I can't listen to tool anymore, their last album was like a tool tribute band that do weddings and parties. But that's just how I feel. Maybe it's me that has changed and not them. The thing with music is that people are always thinking of new styles new instruments and new methods of presentation, but there aren't that many possible melodies. Still music isn't about notes and time signatures and instruments and sounds, those things are just tools. Music's about sharing emotion and sentiment from one person to another. Which is why music will always be awesome and it doesn't need to have endless possibilities. (And why the pogo-tribe shouldn't have one theme tune! No emotional uniformity!)
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Post by imtwenty on Apr 4, 2010 8:44:19 GMT -5
this whole thread just got pwn'd! I'm fairly certain he was referring to the world and the lack of a new idea from such a large group of creative people. I just jost got pwn'd ;D
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Post by RabbitWho on Apr 4, 2010 8:53:38 GMT -5
Nobody is pwning anybody.
Pwning, that was pretty original once, such an internet thing. I was just thinking the other day about how many new words we have now. WTF FTW DFTBA LOL there's like 1000s of them. All evolving from this new medium of communication, sooooo many new things happening because of the internet. I'm so glad I was born in this generation.
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Post by speedyreedy on Apr 4, 2010 11:39:53 GMT -5
Of course there is original content. The problem is that we as consumers desire only the known, tried and tested. How many people would rather search for music/gaming on youtube than a blogger who may or may not be worth the 10 minute video?
But that's why we're here - is it not? To support each other and try to revolutionise YouTube and the internet. We are clever, driven and together. If we want to, we can do a whole lot - including some original content videos!
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Post by Deleted on Apr 4, 2010 12:17:59 GMT -5
still, no content can be 100% original, only 99.99..% at most, and that's almost impossible it can be more creative
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Post by thebeeonmynose on Apr 4, 2010 17:15:16 GMT -5
There will be original content when someone thinks it up O.o
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Post by Deleted on Apr 4, 2010 18:41:49 GMT -5
no, because they are always influenced by something different, so they won't be 100% original. though this is a philosophical idea, and thus debatable, but I agree with it
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Post by thebeeonmynose on Apr 5, 2010 6:23:23 GMT -5
Thus since the first ever idea, every other one has spanned off that to create the world we live in now? So a man looking at a bird and creating an aeroplane off the idea of flying doesn't count as an original idea because....a bird was flying at the time? But then it would count as original because he was the first person to think up an aeroplane and the design and so on. Now I'm rambling. I'll stop XD
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Post by punion on Apr 5, 2010 7:30:54 GMT -5
So you either are reacting/habitual/in-a-pattern, or you are generating something new which = creative. It's all about a quality of life that is available but not always chosen.
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Post by flyingmoosestudios on Apr 6, 2010 8:21:10 GMT -5
I would say there is definitely still plenty of original content on the internet. Look up users such as mysteryguitarman or onision on youtube and you will quickly see that there is definitely still some genius and original minds on the internet.
There is original content everywhere all the time, you just have to look hard for it. Watch movies such as memento and requiem for a dream. Or, "A scanner darkly" is also a very good and original idea for a movie.
Point being, there is absolutely original content in the internet and more.
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