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Post by hey light on Apr 21, 2010 14:51:13 GMT -5
Why isnt the spanish version of spotm being made in proboards? Consistency please? It's not just spanish. And why is that so important? |
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Post by Cortney on Apr 21, 2010 15:33:57 GMT -5
He has a valid point. It should be made in ProBoards for the sake of being consistent and looking professional. It's like the home page of Youtube looking how it does now, then you go to view a video and everything is purple-themed.
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Post by hey light on Apr 21, 2010 15:46:40 GMT -5
He has a valid point. It should be made in ProBoards for the sake of being consistent and looking professional. It's like the home page of Youtube looking how it does now, then you go to view a video and everything is purple-themed. This isn't a big deal. It's already made, and I don't like ProBoards anyway. |
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Post by TheIslander on Apr 21, 2010 15:50:31 GMT -5
He has a valid point. It should be made in ProBoards for the sake of being consistent and looking professional. It's like the home page of Youtube looking how it does now, then you go to view a video and everything is purple-themed. This isn't a big deal. It's already made, and I don't like ProBoards anyway. Neither do I, but that's what we're using and that is what should be used. Why should we use something else? If we're going to have features developed for the CURRENT SPOTM which is in proboards, we want them to be compatible with other versions of SPOTM... therefore they should run under proboards too. If I want to make a project which involves coding a feature for the pogotribe forums, why should I not be able to apply it to the spanish version too? It is a big deal. If you are going to do something, do it right. |
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Post by hey light on Apr 21, 2010 16:00:56 GMT -5
This isn't a big deal. It's already made, and I don't like ProBoards anyway. Neither do I, but that's what we're using and that is what should be used. Why should we use something else? If we're going to have features developed for the CURRENT SPOTM which is in proboards, we want them to be compatible with other versions of SPOTM... therefore they should run under proboards too. It is a big deal. If you are going to do something, do it right. So doing something different is doing something wrong? |
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Post by TheIslander on Apr 21, 2010 16:04:09 GMT -5
Neither do I, but that's what we're using and that is what should be used. Why should we use something else? If we're going to have features developed for the CURRENT SPOTM which is in proboards, we want them to be compatible with other versions of SPOTM... therefore they should run under proboards too. It is a big deal. If you are going to do something, do it right. So doing something different is doing something wrong? You are either missing the point or ignoring it. The point of creating another version of SPOTM is to give the same service SPOTM does, just in a different language... if it is running on a different system, it is ALREADY different. If a new skin is made for the current SPOTM we wont be able to apply it to the spanish one too. If a super cool feature is introduced on our forums, we wont be able to introduce it there too. Why isn't an admin taking care of this? After all it IS about SPOTM. If this is going to happen, I suggest it is taken a little more seriously. |
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Post by hey light on Apr 21, 2010 16:11:18 GMT -5
So doing something different is doing something wrong? You are either missing the point or ignoring it. The point of creating another version of SPOTM is to give the same service SPOTM does, just in a different language... if it is running on a different system, it is ALREADY different. If a new skin is made for the current SPOTM we wont be able to apply it to the spanish one too. If a super cool feature is introduced on our forums, we wont be able to introduce it there too. Why isn't an admin taking care of this? After all it IS about SPOTM. If this is going to happen, I suggest it is taken a little more seriously. This is all ridiculous. Just because it uses a different forum software doesn't mean it's unequal. Let's get passed this squabbling and get back to the project. |
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Post by TheIslander on Apr 21, 2010 16:18:06 GMT -5
You are either missing the point or ignoring it. The point of creating another version of SPOTM is to give the same service SPOTM does, just in a different language... if it is running on a different system, it is ALREADY different. If a new skin is made for the current SPOTM we wont be able to apply it to the spanish one too. If a super cool feature is introduced on our forums, we wont be able to introduce it there too. Why isn't an admin taking care of this? After all it IS about SPOTM. If this is going to happen, I suggest it is taken a little more seriously. This is all ridiculous. Just because it uses a different forum software doesn't mean it's unequal. Let's get passed this squabbling and get back to the project. This topic is in the suggestions section for a reason: it is directed towards the admins and who control SPOTM thus it isn't a project and should only be made into one if the admins say so. You still have not understood my point, since this is another version of SPOTM.. we want it to be made in such a way that if something is changed HERE, we will be able to change it THERE in the EXACT same way. Of course by we I mean the community, which is led by the admins. Basically, whoever is an admin THERE should have a say on what goes on HERE and vice versa because they are both SPOTM. What was keeping boris from making a forum and naming it SPOTM? The fact that it didnt have the support of the admins and Dan brown, and since the admins and Dan brown decided that SPOTM would be on pro boards, then SPOTM should be on pro boards irrelevant of the language. |
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Post by Cortney on Apr 21, 2010 16:18:55 GMT -5
Just because something is different DOESN'T mean it's wrong. This is simply a matter of professionalism. It wouldn't be that hard to just create the forum on ProBoards, and there are plenty more reasons to do it than reasons not to do it.
You already created the forum without discussing it with Boris first, so just make it on ProBoards and THEN get back to the project.
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Post by hey light on Apr 21, 2010 16:26:03 GMT -5
This is all ridiculous. Just because it uses a different forum software doesn't mean it's unequal. Let's get passed this squabbling and get back to the project. This topic is in the suggestions section for a reason: it is directed towards the admins and who control SPOTM thus it isn't a project and should only be made into one if the admins say so. You still have not understood my point, since this is another version of SPOTM.. we want it to be made in such a way that if something is changed HERE, we will be able to change it THERE in the EXACT same way. Of course by we I mean the community, which is led by the admins. Basically, whoever is an admin THERE should have a say on what goes on HERE and vice versa because they are both SPOTM. What was keeping boris from making a forum and naming it SPOTM? The fact that it didnt have the support of the admins and Dan brown, and since the admins and Dan brown decided that SPOTM would be on pro boards, then SPOTM should be on pro boards irrelevant of the language. Just because the admins decided something for THIS forum, doesn't mean that we have to follow it. Just because the admins are the leader of this forum doesn't mean that their ideas are better that anyone else's. At the end of the day, it's the regular members that drive the Pogotribe. Without us, there would be no projects. |
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Post by boris on Apr 21, 2010 16:52:36 GMT -5
First of all after the 2 lastest videos of Dan we don't know if we are going to continue with the project, I already said it, WE ARE SHOCKED! and we're waiting for the next videos and/or messages/tweet, anything really, from Dan.
And if we do continue with the project I'm going to discuss this with the other guys in the project as they know more about web design and all that stuff than me. so we can tell you what our opinion is.
But my personal opinion is that doing something diferent isn't wrong, but if is that big deal and we have no choice I won't bothered doing it in proboards.
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Post by TheIslander on Apr 21, 2010 16:53:13 GMT -5
You fail to realize the fact that this has nothing to do with you or me. This has to do with boris, the admins and non-english speakers. We can only SUGGEST and that is what I am doing, I am suggesting that if SPOTM is to be re-produced in any different form it should be done so on proboards for the sake of consistency.
Consistency being brand consistency (as Cortney mentioned) and functional consistency in the case of future maintenance (new forum features should be available for ALL SPOTM not only the english speaking ones).
You are not doing something different for the better, you are doing it without reason. I want non-english speakers who don't use these forums to benefit if new features are to be introduced. That is that. What I don't want though, is for this 'project' as you call it to go on behind a closed convo and kick out other ideas, like you are trying to do. ANYONE is able to create a random forum and name it SPOTM, so am I.. I have my server and could do it in just a few mins. But that is simply not the point. The point is having SPOTM be united under one common service and domain.
End of discussion on my part.
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Post by hey light on Apr 21, 2010 17:12:35 GMT -5
You fail to realize the fact that this has nothing to do with you or me. This has to do with boris, the admins and non-english speakers. We can only SUGGEST and that is what I am doing, I am suggesting that if SPOTM is to be re-produced in any different form it should be done so on proboards for the sake of consistency. Consistency being brand consistency (as Cortney mentioned) and functional consistency in the case of future maintenance (new forum features should be available for ALL SPOTM not only the english speaking ones). You are not doing something different for the better, you are doing it without reason. I want non-english speakers who don't use these forums to benefit if new features are to be introduced. That is that. What I don't want though, is for this 'project' as you call it to go on behind a closed convo and kick out other ideas, like you are trying to do. ANYONE is able to create a random forum and name it SPOTM, so am I.. I have my server and could do it in just a few mins. But that is simply not the point. The point is having SPOTM be united under one common service and domain. End of discussion on my part. One thing you don't realize is that these forums are set up so that pretty much anything can be customized, because they were made "from scratch" by the ProBoards team, with the help of the CEO. Not all forums are like that, obviously. It's nearly impossible to get a forum with this much customization. And i'm not trying to be selfish as you seem to be bent on proving, I'm trying to help with somebody else's project. |
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Post by bombmaniac on Apr 22, 2010 11:20:00 GMT -5
i am reading this...and facepalm at the sheer stupidity of it all. creating a new forum for different languages on this forum, is crazy. it will inevitably deviate from this site in one way or another.
its still not too late for you all to take this suggestion. i know the forum has been made...but not too far in the past to abandon it.
i noticed bree said that the admins dont have the capacity to manage a multilingual subforum, and they really dont. what i suggest is make some people moderators, one for each language. have an application process, to see who would be trustworthy, and make them mods. they will administrate the multilingual subforum.
having another forum...IMO is just plain ridiculous.
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Post by hey light on Apr 22, 2010 11:27:24 GMT -5
i am reading this...and facepalm at the sheer stupidity of it all. creating a new forum for different languages on this forum, is crazy. it will inevitably deviate from this site in one way or another. its still not too late for you all to take this suggestion. i know the forum has been made...but not too far in the past to abandon it. i noticed bree said that the admins dont have the capacity to manage a multilingual subforum, and they really dont. what i suggest is make some people moderators, one for each language. have an application process, to see who would be trustworthy, and make them mods. they will administrate the multilingual subforum. having another forum...IMO is just plain ridiculous. Well, seeing as the admins have refused to do it, we really don't have much of an option. And you could have worded it a lot less harshly. |
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Post by boris on Apr 22, 2010 11:47:42 GMT -5
I've just watch the new video, It's a total reliev (i don't know how to write that word "relief" or something like that), and from my part I'm continuing with the project so all I need is the Ok from the rest of the team and from the guy who donates the money.
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Post by G. D. Baker on Apr 23, 2010 0:57:29 GMT -5
I'm Gary Baker, and i have a suggestion.
I think it would make alot of things run more smoothly if we had a chat bar on the bottom. that way if we need to communicate with a admin right away we can do so. it will be easier to communicate between tribe members also.
What do you think?
-G. D. Baker-
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Post by bombmaniac on Apr 23, 2010 1:21:36 GMT -5
chaos...all the harshness is directed at whoever is preventing that from happening. G. D. Baker...you should make another thread for that idea  |
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Post by Cortney on Apr 23, 2010 16:09:57 GMT -5
Well, seeing as the admins have refused to do it, we really don't have much of an option. And you could have worded it a lot less harshly. O.o We didn't refuse to do it. I'd like to quote Bree for this one: Hmm. The admins decided that we (not the PogoTribe, but the admins themselves) aren't quite ready to take on the responsibility of non-English subforum. That's not to say there won't be one in the future, though. If you guys want to make an entirely different website/forum (that would still be affiliated with us, of course), that's totally cool. Umm. Beyond that, I think we're just going to have to take it one step at a time. If/when this website is actually made, we can... go from there, and try to get some questions answered.  @bomb This is kind of along the lines of what we were thinking, though not quite how we considered going about it. When we get moderators, the process will be entirely different from how we get admins. If we were to create a multi-lingual section of the forum, there would have to be multilingual moderators. However, since we don't even have a full admin team yet, this might take a few months. I'm more in favor of having it embedded on the site, but if you guys still want to create the forum now, I'm not opposed to it. |
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Post by bombmaniac on Apr 25, 2010 10:32:45 GMT -5
thats actually not a bad idea cortney, maybe make a redirect link on the main page like there is with the wiki
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