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Post by Jake on Apr 28, 2010 16:44:47 GMT -5
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Post by Joey on Apr 28, 2010 17:11:56 GMT -5
Hey! I just had an idea, but don't go harping on me if you think its bad.
Making the world agree on a set of laws that are the "Common Good". Which would be like "1. Murder in any way for fun is wrong 2. Terrioism is wrong"
You can see that it would be a very difficult task, not just to make the list, but to get it approved by the UN or something like that. Also you can see how it would be very controvesial, but we could make it our goal to make it something that all humas find morally wrong, and that adhering to the list would make the world suck less. Just a thought.
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Post by Johncoyne on Apr 28, 2010 19:22:33 GMT -5
^ Wow... I think that's the most difficult thing posted here. I like it, though. I'm not sure how well that could be represented. Would every person in the world vote on it? I'm not even sure if it's possible. That would be awesome, though.
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Post by Joey on Apr 28, 2010 19:47:33 GMT -5
^ Wow... I think that's the most difficult thing posted here. I like it, though. I'm not sure how well that could be represented. Would every person in the world vote on it? I'm not even sure if it's possible. That would be awesome, though. Get it agreed upon by the UN? I think they represent the world... OR!!!!!!!!!!! We could have it set up online, delivering every vote to the people of the world, and have a wiki set for changing them? Just throwing more ideas out.
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Post by Jake on Apr 29, 2010 14:31:27 GMT -5
^ Wow... I think that's the most difficult thing posted here. I like it, though. I'm not sure how well that could be represented. Would every person in the world vote on it? I'm not even sure if it's possible. That would be awesome, though. Get it agreed upon by the UN? I think they represent the world... OR!!!!!!!!!!! We could have it set up online, delivering every vote to the people of the world, and have a wiki set for changing them? Just throwing more ideas out. This is a fantastic idea! I love it! I like the idea of getting an agreed definition of things regarded as wrong by humans, and getting something done with it. And then the wiki idea really is great if we make it work!
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Post by krzych32 on May 3, 2010 22:22:00 GMT -5
pjpinc123@ that is a good idea, but it would have to be changed around a bit first. First: "Murder in any way for fun is wrong" Don't get me wrong, but it kind of sound like it was written by a 2nd grader. Second:"Terrioism is wrong" That is up to discussion. Yes; we like in the western world, so we see it as pure evil, but for occupied nations that can't figth back in a traditional way, this may be the only choice.
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Post by type40 on May 4, 2010 12:55:34 GMT -5
could our goal be to enlarge our online community to points where we are able to help people with their goals in life?
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Post by Deleted on May 4, 2010 15:54:23 GMT -5
could our goal be to enlarge our online community to points where we are able to help people with their goals in life? I like this
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Post by Joey on May 4, 2010 17:39:29 GMT -5
pjpinc123@ that is a good idea, but it would have to be changed around a bit first. First: "Murder in any way for fun is wrong" Don't get me wrong, but it kind of sound like it was written by a 2nd grader. Second:"Terrioism is wrong" That is up to discussion. Yes; we like in the western world, so we see it as pure evil, but for occupied nations that can't figth back in a traditional way, this may be the only choice. Thats where the difficulty comes in getting this worked out.
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Post by Jake on May 5, 2010 12:52:38 GMT -5
pjpinc123@ that is a good idea, but it would have to be changed around a bit first. First: "Murder in any way for fun is wrong" Don't get me wrong, but it kind of sound like it was written by a 2nd grader. Second:"Terrioism is wrong" That is up to discussion. Yes; we like in the western world, so we see it as pure evil, but for occupied nations that can't figth back in a traditional way, this may be the only choice. Thats where the difficulty comes in getting this worked out. In a theoretical sense of how easy it is, I actually think it is a fairly easy process. While some people may argue that "Terrorism is good because it's the only way we can fight back", you simply make it so that they have no reason to want to fight back.
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Post by tulae on May 5, 2010 19:23:03 GMT -5
obviously!the foundationary goal of the pogotribe = increase worldawesome as for more specific and concrete goals, arent those our projects for awesome? isn't it a great thing to be able to persue a ton of them at a time? is it not completely important to promote the ones that need to include the whole tribe to get very far very efficiently? similar idea as Martin Luther King stated "a right to long delayed is a right denied" not really all that similiar, in content, but in motivation... i think it's extremely important that we adress problems and projects, whole heartedly and whole tribedly ( with the stuff this would apply to) to get stuff wrapped up in a timely manner Thanks! Tanner
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Post by tulae on May 5, 2010 19:33:09 GMT -5
Thats where the difficulty comes in getting this worked out. In a theoretical sense of how easy it is, I actually think it is a fairly easy process. While some people may argue that "Terrorism is good because it's the only way we can fight back", you simply make it so that they have no reason to want to fight back. AWESOME = this thread. i think this is the PenUltimate project for awesome; unite the world under commonly agreed upon values, turning us into a global harmonious tribe. i think this is the element that previous ideas of utopianism left out.this is deffinately the most important goal for the pogotribe, and afterwards it would be unnessesary for us to exist in the form we are. like, what's the point of a civil rights movement after civil rights have already been established.. but the lessons learned (new forms of social networking, community building, education in general) from the growth of the pogotribe and other similar tribes would most likely be the foundationary building blocks of the new society. ;D p.s. there REALLY needs to be a like button so that favorite posts of threads can be easily found as the best representations of entire threads. Just sayin SUPER COOL Tanner
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Post by Phat on May 7, 2010 12:50:05 GMT -5
Noble Cause! As yet I have no answers, but seek to infuse some questions. 1) Does said noble cause require a commitment from every participating member? 2) If so, will it be fun or will it be work or both? 3) Is it commercial or non commercial and, if commercial, will it be the responsibility of the interests to use the set aside finances in an agreeable consensus? (That's all the questions i could think of for now! ~~~Phat
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Post by joethankyou on May 8, 2010 0:05:56 GMT -5
It's impossible to pick a single cause that we can all be passionate about. However, I think that we can still utilize both our community's diversity of passions and our willingness to collaborate in a broader common goal.
My idea for a Noble Cause: INSPIRE OTHERS TO DO AWESOME by giving examples of different ways that our members are already doing it. Start respective discussions and help each other do their own awesome.
What that means: Build a showcase of members doing their own amazing thing for the world (a video or even just a story). Make this available so that all memebers can see it. Inspired members can then start a discussion with the author, have questions answered, and even start a subcommunity which can organize projects and events for interested members. This kind of seems like what the SPOTM is already geared towards anyway.
Example: One week, we feature a 5 minute video from a member about how much fun they had volunteering at a summer camp for special needs kids. The following days, he/she gets a lot of questions which they can answer. After this, an entire discussion starts with other people telling their stories about volunteering at camps. Outsiders who liked the video and read the discussion then get even more inspired thus decide to volunteer at their own local camp. Enough people join the discussion and a subcommunity starts which helps people find camps in their neighborhood, get their friends and neighbors to join in, etc. The next week, we feature a 5 minute video about someone doing Habitat for Humanity, etc.
This community is also a good place for debate on which causes, charities, or organizations are more worth the time and energy of interested members (lets face it, not all are equal).
I think it should be our vision for an outsider to come into the pogotribe and be overwhelmed by the variety of things we have done to improve the world.
It's impossible to have someone who would die in order to end world poverty to be just as passionate about curing cancer. However, I think that these passionate individuals would LOVE to show off what they did and try to get others to follow suit, or at least to educate others about their specific cause.
The pogotribe's greatest asset is the diversity of things that we are willing to do to help others. I think this is the best way to make use of all of that energy.
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Post by speakmouthwords on May 8, 2010 9:36:03 GMT -5
You mean like the Human Rights act, but instead of being positive, being negative? Don't do this, don't do that? Something inherently sits wrong with me about that, but my head says it's a good idea.
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