Thunderf00t's second video against Dan

[Ricky]

I'm not going to say much because I don't agree with thunderf00t at all in this video, but I do want to point some things out.

Fallacy of continuum:

"The fallacy appears to demonstrate that two states or conditions cannot be considered distinct (or do not exist at all) because between them there exists a continuum of states. According to the fallacy, differences in quality cannot result from differences in quantity."

which is like saying

1 is almost 2, which is almost 3, which is almost 4.... which is almost 10000

Which means that 1 is almost 10000.



Also he is just trying too hard to compare Dan to Glenn Beck, and specially trying to make this a religious debate since that's what he usually talks about... but to my understanding Dan's video has nothing to do with religion...

Also I don't think a 6 minute video is enough to judge a person's character and believes, as Thunderf00t sets it to be


Anyways what do you think?

[Ferrrrrre]

What irritates me about his "against Dan-videos" is that almost of it are a personal attack on Dan or on his opinion and he assumes that we'll all just blindy drop out of school because Dan said but I do remember Dan said you only need to drop out of school if you think you shoul .. so he's not suggesting anything

I also find by listening to him that it seems that he

As for the 'handsome' tag, that's just a little joke, why does he makes such a big deal out of it..? I guess any stick will do to beat the dog...

[Dimstow]

I'm pretty sure I said this about the other video TF made but I Whatev I'll say it again

Personally attacking Dan because of his choice is not only unnecessary its offensive.

Saying Dan's wrong in his Letter to Educators, who cares, it's a matter of opinion, Dan specifically says that it was a personal decision , that the education he was receiving was the education he needed/wanted and he dropped out because of that, and he even says not to leave school because of that, that he was a very special case.

Personally, I agree with Dan, and not just because he so devilishly handsome, but because from my own experiences he's correct.

but just as a side note: TF really is cruel, eh?

[Rob]

I wish Thunderf00t would use his smarts to have an intellectual debate about the point at hand, not about Dan's credibility and why he shouldn't have dropped out.

[Ferrrrrre]

Yet another thing that he does wrong: He only uses parts of Dan's vid etc. okay, he could have the intention to only talk about that part but then again he just cut out the thing he needed in stead of discussing the entity..

[Linus]

I don't think you can compare jumping out of an airplane without a parachute to dropping out of school thinking you have something figured out for yourself.
There is a significantly better chance that you survive in our society without a college degree, even though your plans doesn't work out, than that you survive if you jump out of an airplane without a parachute.

[SmitherMcOwn]

Mar 8, 2010 14:05:12 GMT -5 Linus said:

I don't think you can compare jumping out of an airplane without a parachute to dropping out of school thinking you have something figured out for yourself.
There is a significantly better chance that you survive in our society without a college degree, even though your plans doesn't work out, than that you survive if you jump out of an airplane without a parachute.

That's what I think, too. Thunderf00t is using the method of exaggerating to explain the facts of the case, but in this case it isn't working pretty well, because, as Linus said, you can't compare both those things.
Firstly there is always another way to get some important education for other jobs (but in jumping out of a plane there's no way to get a parachute if you have no) and secondly I totally believe that Dan has more plans for his future than simply do more YouTube videos. He's an intelligent guy and I think that he planned something for his future and didn't completely blindly drop out of school.
So there you go, thunderf00t. "Education for the win", yes I know, but that isn't everything.

[noobsensei]

The stuff that Thunderfoot included about Glenn Beck, V For Vendetta, and The Simpsons is just stupid and annoying, and doesn't further his argument in any way.

With that said...if you eliminate all of the nonsense from his video, he still makes a valid point and I'm still more inclined to agree with Thunderfoot than Dan on this: It's not wise to look to the exceptions (like Bill Gates) rather than the rule, and YouTube is probably not a viable long-term career.

[ItsCarterYo]

HAVE U SEEN THIS COMMERCIAL? its like it was made by dan himself!

[Dimstow]

Gotta love that commercial!

[kermikidd]

Dan Brown is misguided but makes valid points. These points, however, are not on the surface much like Mickeleh and the pony-tail man looked for. I don't think Dan Brown realized it himself, but he made a very clear point: young people are lazy and don't know the value of education. young people look for easy ways out of things. young people are full of themselves. most importantly, young people want to be babied. if dan brown had actually decided to be a student, he would have found that it is the individual's responsibility to take action and learn. teachers and schools are outlets but students are solely responsible for fully taking charge and using the surge of knowledge that can be gained from those teachers and schools
i think the pony tail guy jumped on him too quickly because he comes from a different generation. dan brown is taking a sabitical and that's fine. he's making money.
people are people..his fans will either remain true and he will become filthy rich and none of his detractors (that make valid points) will matter because, again, people are people. they will believe what they want to believe. they will believe what is popular (because history shows that catering to the majority works and following the trend helps better..but history also shows us that dissent is necessary for evolution)
: i agree with jean jacques rossoeau. i think that for survival we must forget all human institutions and consult with nature.
: whether that nature be tied to religion or spirituality. all people need a release and will find one. i think dan brown is looking for that release. he is obviously intellegent. it's upsetting that those guys are undermining him because of his age and because of the preposterous nature of his suggestions and his findings..but they do not realize that universities have changed since their days. it has become significantly more difficult to obtain the same degrees people obtained years ago. why? because of evolution..because of technological advances..because of facts.
: facts that were acquired through universities. invention is spawned from creativity. innovation is spawned from intelligence and dissent. all of these men whose vidoes we watched today must learn this. they also must learn to be open-minded. the old farts should learn to take into consideration what dan brown is preaching about and dan brown should grow the fuck up and go back to univeristy in case his fame subsides, as i'm sure it will eventually.

[Soup629]

Hey guess what. Dan can do whatever the hell he feels like doing, and he made it very clear that his case was a special case. His university wasn't giving him the education that he wanted. Dan's not your normal kid either, he wants a different kind of education. He made a point though, and that is that universities need to start changing to adapt to the students and to the times.

I also would like to call you out on your statement about what young people are. Stereotyping will get you nowhere here, I would prefer you instead of insulting an entire generation of people, that you call out faults on a specific person.