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Post by pretzelwaffle on Mar 8, 2010 13:14:52 GMT -5
Ever think of what happens when you get sucked into a black hole?? what if the universe that we live in RIGHT NOW is a result of what happens after you get sucked into a black hole???
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darkless
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Post by darkless on Mar 8, 2010 14:00:33 GMT -5
You die, more specifically gravitational sheer rips you to shreds then crushes your remains to an infinitesimally small size over a period of thousands of years as the massive gravitational field black holes give out distorts time around it.
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Post by Ryan on Mar 8, 2010 14:23:19 GMT -5
If you follow Einstein's theory of space-time then black holes are like darkless said something that's going to crush your body in a very relativistically long period of time. This is due to something caused by a gravity well and all super dense structures have them (super nova stars, red giants, white dwarfs, black holes, white holes, and worm holes). The first three in that list will crush you while burning you, the black holes are like described above and the last two have never been observed or fully described, and so we can't think of what might happen. Could be interesting though.
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Post by ifyouwantblood on Mar 8, 2010 15:07:04 GMT -5
I saw something about this on the History channel Ill try to remember If you (want blood!) fall into a black hole you will at first get you know.. Sucked in. Then you will see a bright flash of light. The flash of light is so bright it completely destroys you. But of course this is just some vague memory of a documentary. I also did a school project about black holes so ill try to explain what they are A black hole is a object with such a dense mass its gravity pulls everything to it, even light. Thats why its called a black hole, because it sucks up light and therefore it appears black to us. Black holes are created when stars that are INSANELY HUGE RUn out of things to "burn". As they collapse upon themself most stars will become a small dwarf. The stars that are HUUUUGEEEE become Neutron Stars, One teaspoon of neutronstar mass would weigh more than a million tons here on earth! The stars that are EVEN HUGER become Black Holes. It is when the star collapses so much upon itself that its mass is (earlier taking up the space of a INSANELY HUGE STAR ) Now use much smaller space. Stephen Hawking talked about that Eventhorizon. That is the point where the light is sucked up. Say that your middle fingers tip is a black hole. And that all light that comes closer than the two fingers next to it will get sucked into your middle fingers black hole. Then your two fingers would be the eventhorizon, Its like the point of no return if you see what i mean. Its kinda hard to spot black holes as they dont give out any light, so they measure planets orbit and see if they are being pulled by something that they cant see, then you probably have a black hole. There is a SUPERMASSIVE black hole in the center of our galaxy, no worries its not bad for us. Im not too sure about this but i believe that its like our solarsystem, just on a larger scale. And instead of it being a solar system its a galaxy. But im not too sure about that last part And also considering that time slows down when there is strong gravity (or atlast so ive heard) Time would go alot slower in a black hole but thats just guessing ^^
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Post by Lex on Mar 8, 2010 17:14:06 GMT -5
"Black holes, unlike the common image, do not act as cosmic vacuum cleaners any more than other stars. When a star evolves into a black hole, the gravitational attraction at a given distance from the body is no greater than it was for the star. That is to say, were the Sun to be replaced by a black hole of the same mass, the Earth would continue in the same orbit (assuming spherical symmetry of the sun)" - From Wikipedia.
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zlith
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Post by zlith on Mar 8, 2010 18:26:17 GMT -5
I believe that when a black hole forms the mathematical point that everything is sucked into literally 'rips a hole in spacetime' and falls into an area I call "the void." The void is the area in between universes were there is literally nothing. Some may ask what happens to this superdense point that ripped out of the universe and what happens to the universe it came from? For the former I will ask you to think of the big bang theory, the theory that the universe was created when a superdense point exploded and the universe was born out of the raw matter it left. See what I marked? I believe that the points that make universes do come from pre-existing universes when a BHP (black hole point) becomes so heavy it rips out of it's previous universe. Now back to the fate of the universe with the hole ripped in it. We wouldn't ever find out if there is a black hole in the universe or a rip. But I believe that if there is a rip the fabric of spacetime around it will start to 'die.' The laws of that universes reality will be a bit, flexible, around that hole. What happens if a universe is ripped open too much? I believe that universes are at a constant battle with time. A universe could collapse in on itself completely and create an incredibly dense BHP to create an incredibly massive universe obliterating all those around it. The other fate of a universe is to be ripped to shreds, the rips in the universes would only get bigger and if there are too many the fabric of spacetime will only get weaker. If it gets too weak than it will fall apart and all the contents of that universe will spill out into the void. What happens to it? I hypothesize that it becomes dead material and when a universe is created near it the blast of all the matter and light inside the BHP is released (yes everything that goes into the black hole I believes comes out and makes up the universe it is to become) 'breaths life' into the dead material and it reacts in a unique way. These unique reactions create universal blips like wormholes or other random unpredictable features. The problem arose in my logic saying that if it worked like that than universes would only get smaller and smaller in size as time went by. I thought of this for a while and I believe that when universes are near each other and when black holes are poking out of the universe it may come in contact with the other universe and all the matter in the BHP will spill into the other universe and anything that falls into the black hole will spill out the other side or 'white hole.' Now the universes could form a symbiotic relationship or even merge with time, and if a universe collapses in on itself and when the superdense BHP creates a massive universe every universe in its path will be reduced to raw matter and energy to join with it. This fixes the problem and lets the events form a cycle. This cycle I believe will continue and has continued forever. Though I have only experienced four dimensions when there are twenty six hypothesized ones and even more could exist. I could be completely wrong, in fact, the odds say it is almost certain I am wrong. I still try to contemplate it anyway as you all should. Sharing my fourth dimensional views and thoughts two fingered salute ~Zlith
(God damn that took a long time to type.
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Post by runforthefinish on Mar 8, 2010 18:34:03 GMT -5
Well the blackhole would rip you to pieces, well that just sounds pleasent What if you are not effected by the blackhole? Just incase this question shows up, you would be plunged into pure energy (a.k.a. light and other matter moving extremely quickly). Then after that it becomes speculation.
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Post by Ryan on Mar 8, 2010 19:08:39 GMT -5
zlith - awesome theories there. Just a few things to be aware of : if a black hole makes an actual tear in space-time it's then classified as a wormhole, and wormholes allow for light to travel and so can be seen by us unlike black holes. also, instead of exploding from a super-massive BHP, the current most popular version of the big bang theory is that there was a super dense primeval atom and a proton hit it causing it to explode outward in the form of an elliptic paraboloid away from the original trajectory of the proton into the the ever-expanding universe. Your ideas are really interesting though, and I'm interested about your void. If the void is the space between universes, then it's hypothetical that we could travel through the void, and perhaps to other universes through it right?
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zlith
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Post by zlith on Mar 9, 2010 17:41:46 GMT -5
zlith - awesome theories there. Just a few things to be aware of : if a black hole makes an actual tear in space-time it's then classified as a wormhole, and wormholes allow for light to travel and so can be seen by us unlike black holes. also, instead of exploding from a super-massive BHP, the current most popular version of the big bang theory is that there was a super dense primeval atom and a proton hit it causing it to explode outward in the form of an elliptic paraboloid away from the original trajectory of the proton into the the ever-expanding universe. Your ideas are really interesting though, and I'm interested about your void. If the void is the space between universes, then it's hypothetical that we could travel through the void, and perhaps to other universes through it right? Thanks! I'll respond according to paragraphs. First paragraph: Yeah I kind of thought about that, the holes through the fabric of spacetime could either end up like a wormhole or keep acting like a blackhole and having extreme gravity seeing as it would still be pulling everything in. Second paragraph: Eh I didn't hear of that, I take physics next year. Third paragraph: No if I am right and there is a void, it is dead. It is literally nothing and has no laws whatsoever. You couldn't travel through the void because as soon as you entered it you wouldn't just be destroyed you would be undone. You would be ripped molecule from molecule, atom from atom, proton from nuetron, up quark from down quark, then into nothing. Though I believe it is still possible to travel to another universe. If you somehow survived a trip through a black hole that was linked to another universe you could end up in the universe, though I don't know how you'd get back. And I believe wormholes and other hard to explain phenomenon are caused by a reaction when a universe is created near the remains (shreds of spacetime) of another universe. A wormhole is the supercharged shred of spacetime that is twisted around itself and when you come in contact with it, it sends you back through time to the universe it came from with all the energy it has absorbed.
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