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Post by AMagicalCat on Jul 11, 2010 15:09:17 GMT -5
Even if we are in charge of Dan, I don't think it will be like a robot or a puppet, he will have to eat and drink when he wants to, and go to the toilet, take a shower and brush his teeth without us telling him to do it. Maybe we can suggest that he eats taco for dinner, or eco-friendly food. But I don't think it's possible to have a 100% control. and that would not be fun either. So there will be some kind of limits. like the law, and I guess funding will be limited too, maybe we'll get a budget we'll have to stick to or something. and ofcourse, the laws of nature, the laws of gravity- and Dans capacity. If we tell him to run for 24 hours straight, that would not be possible, but maybe he'll try and then he'll regret this hole thing... But we can also make him do good things in the world and decrease world suck. IT'S ALL UP TO US! because WE are in charge! So the question is, What do you WANT this project to become? do you want it to be "Dan is doing all the silly things we tell him for a year" or "Dan is decreasing a lot of world suck in a year" ? It's up to us! Fudge 4chan, they can't ruin this! And I don't think they will either, Dan is not stupid, he won't do whatever they say if it's dangerous or unrealisticly stupid! __ At first I was a bit dissapointed, because the project was hyped up so much. But thinking about it, how cool isn't that to control another human beeing? It's like The Sims, just funnier, becuase it's Dan! COME ON PEOPLE! BE EXCITED! THIS IS GONNA BE HECK OF A LOT A FUN!
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Post by nickgreyden on Jul 11, 2010 15:38:53 GMT -5
I'm more ... upset than rob at least appears, but yea
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Post by 7thDP on Jul 11, 2010 15:48:49 GMT -5
Gosh, Dan.
I just don't see how this could go in history books, or how governments could go by the same principles. Sure, if a government did, it would be great. But, Revision3 is something I knew about before Dan 3.0, but I still had to hunt down a long time to find something like that.
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Post by ItsCarterYo on Jul 11, 2010 16:51:26 GMT -5
Even if we are in charge of Dan, I don't think it will be like a robot or a puppet, he will have to eat and drink when he wants to, and go to the toilet, take a shower and brush his teeth without us telling him to do it. Maybe we can suggest that he eats taco for dinner, or eco-friendly food. But I don't think it's possible to have a 100% control. and that would not be fun either. So there will be some kind of limits. like the law, and I guess funding will be limited too, maybe we'll get a budget we'll have to stick to or something. and ofcourse, the laws of nature, the laws of gravity- and Dans capacity. If we tell him to run for 24 hours straight, that would not be possible, but maybe he'll try and then he'll regret this hole thing... But we can also make him do good things in the world and decrease world suck. IT'S ALL UP TO US! because WE are in charge! So the question is, What do you WANT this project to become? do you want it to be "Dan is doing all the silly things we tell him for a year" or "Dan is decreasing a lot of world suck in a year" ? It's up to us! Fudge 4chan, they can't ruin this! And I don't think they will either, Dan is not stupid, he won't do whatever they say if it's dangerous or unrealisticly stupid! __ At first I was a bit dissapointed, because the project was hyped up so much. But thinking about it, how cool isn't that to control another human beeing? It's like The Sims, just funnier, becuase it's Dan! COME ON PEOPLE! BE EXCITED! THIS IS GONNA BE HECK OF A LOT A FUN! Right. I don't think people understand that we aren't choosing what he eats, when he goes to bed, or when he poops. We are giving him goals for the day, like meet your neighbors, walk 2 miles, or learn to square dance. He isn't having us like write his day schedule. Just a goal that he needs to accomplish in that day that would either improve the world or just for him to have fun. His hypothesis is that this will improve his life (just like it would if an organisation adopted this form of decision making) so we need to suggest fun things to do.
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Post by NMS-Mix on Jul 11, 2010 16:57:42 GMT -5
i feel like making him buff
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Post by NMS-Mix on Jul 11, 2010 17:07:36 GMT -5
revision3.com/ look on the front page they care saying dan 3.0 is a show
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Post by lupin on Jul 11, 2010 17:09:17 GMT -5
i can now see how thi will change the world pepole will submit ideas of things they want to do, but are to lazy to do pepole will see dan brown doing it an will just want to do it more badly or pepole will see he does not do it and will want to do it more badly pepole will eventually achieve their oown goals, thus making the world a better place refrigerator
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Post by bleabot on Jul 11, 2010 17:11:12 GMT -5
My initial reaction: I was impressed. Because of all the hype he was giving it, I began to have my doubts. By the time vidcon rolled around, I had such low expectations that anything would have surprised me...so it surprised me. Bravo, I guess. =P
After thought: As others have said, this has enormous potential, both positive and negative. Dan's giving us his leadership. I really don't think people understand what that means. That said, it also has the potential to be totally pointless and a complete waste of a perfectly good year. We do have a month to work the kinks out and find ways to make this work for the good of our society (or at least some society somewhere, I guess).
Final judgement: I'm on the edge. I do really, really, really like this idea. It sounds fantastic, and my mind is reeling with not only the possibilities, but the implications of this project. As a social experiment, it's amazing. On the other hand, it can backfire easily, and it may just end up being a failure (which would still teach us something in the end, so it isn't all that bad anyway).
I'll wait for Dan to explain his logic and what exactly his plan is in later videos, of course. I'm sure he's thought about it enough to address at least some of our misgivings.
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Post by Yokailo on Jul 11, 2010 17:39:47 GMT -5
I think it's quite lame, considering the fact that we've been waiting and working 6 months to get to the point where we are now. A tribe like this is not necessary for a project like that, honestly. Voting on weird things Dan should do? We don't need a tight relationship like some of us do right now.
So, because of this, I will stay, and I probably will vote on some stuff for Dan 3.0, but I don't really want to get all over it o.O
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Post by nickgreyden on Jul 11, 2010 17:55:49 GMT -5
WE GET IT WE UNDERSTAND WHAT IS GOING ON WE KNOW WHERE THIS MIGHT LEAD AND THE PROMISES OF THE FUTURE
AND WE STILL DO NOT LIKE IT.
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Post by lupin on Jul 11, 2010 17:58:22 GMT -5
*posts coment again due to loneliness* i can now see how thi will change the world pepole will submit ideas of things they want to do, but are to lazy to do pepole will see dan brown doing it an will just want to do it more badly or pepole will see he does not do it and will want to do it more badly pepole will eventually achieve their oown goals, thus making the world a better place refrigerator
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Post by zachmanzm on Jul 11, 2010 18:49:17 GMT -5
To be honest, It's not too good of an idea IMO, I really don`t see how this can change the world, we tell dan something like "Today you should go buy an icecream" or, "This week you should go swimming everyday" It doesn't seem like it could change the world, It's a very brave thing for him to do, But just not that interesting.
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Post by leviroseman on Jul 11, 2010 18:53:10 GMT -5
im super duper flabbergasted
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Post by ItsCarterYo on Jul 11, 2010 18:55:24 GMT -5
I think it's quite lame, considering the fact that we've been waiting and working 6 months to get to the point where we are now. A tribe like this is not necessary for a project like that, honestly. Voting on weird things Dan should do? We don't need a tight relationship like some of us do right now. So, because of this, I will stay, and I probably will vote on some stuff for Dan 3.0, but I don't really want to get all over it o.O This depresses me when people dont like it. Also, we have been waiting for 6 months to see it and this project is more than i expected. This is freakin fantastic!! I don't get the unenthusiastic and disappointment that people have. I just don't get it.
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Post by Gesh on Jul 11, 2010 19:07:29 GMT -5
Why can't those things be a goal? One of our Pogotribe values is to think impossibly big! Sure, something like "End world hunger" or "End all wars" can't be a goal for the day, but perhaps a goal for the entire year, or even half a year? If we make something big like that one of our end goals, we just have to take little steps throughout the course of the year and play our cards right, and then who knows, maybe we'll get there. If those things were possible by one human being dont you think people would have done it already? Some of you seem to think that him delegating power to other people means he in return becomes more capable of achieving things he couldnt normally do, which is nonesense. Hes a young adult with limited funds, the possibilities arent as endless as you think, in fact they are very limited. If you think just because hes being told to solve world hunger or told to run for president he now gains some sort of superpowers and can start achieving these goals, you are deluded. "Solve all wars" "Solve world hunger" are just so innanely stupid to suggest and consider an option for one years worth of action from a 20 year old. I think theres a lot of potential for this project to be successful, but not in any capacity you are thinking of. Entertaining and interesting, yes. World changing and head turning? not in my opinion. If anything this project will just achieve more youtube subscribers to see the crazy things people make him do, which is probably the end game anyway, when you try make a career from it (not offence to dan there, just saying how it is). Something along the lines of ending world hunger or ending war will probably, in fact definitely, take over a year, but if we decide that's what we want to work toward, then we can do just that - work toward it. At the end of the year, if we've played our cards right, Dan could be in a pretty good position to continue his life trying to end world hunger or whatever it is we've taken a head start on. I realize there are limits, but those limits are only created by ourselves. One of the main reasons no one has achieved anything of that magnitude is because one person (themselves, and probably a few other people as well) are making all the decisions and figuring everything out. Like with the soccer team example Dan gave, when the team's management was making all the decisions, a group of a few people, they weren't able to get very far. However, when the decision-making was put in the hands of all their fans, and thousands of people worked together to decide on the best choice, the outcome was a lot better. This is the whole point of Dan's project - If thousands of people come together and figure out what decision would be best together, what difference could that make in the success of one person's life and goals, rather than one person or a few people running the show? That is what the project is all about.
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Post by ItsCarterYo on Jul 11, 2010 19:12:28 GMT -5
Responding to:To be honest, It's not too good of an idea IMO, I really don`t see how this can change the world, we tell dan something like "Today you should go buy an icecream" or, "This week you should go swimming everyday" It doesn't seem like it could change the world, It's a very brave thing for him to do, But just not that interesting. Read this:Erm, yes, Jocelyn is correct... I don't think Dan intended for us to change the world in this next year, directing him on what to do (although, we may... that is yet to be determined). Dan intended to demonstrate that a community can successfully run things far better than a few representatives with an agenda can. The point of the project is to prove that we can run Dan's live better than he could run it himself. That we could run YouTube better than YouTube could. That we could run the United States of America better than Congress. And so on and so forth. The few amount of people who understand this project is astonishing, and quite sad. ;_; To think, a quirky 16-year-old girl called "Jelly" understands this project than THE ALMIGHTY, NEVER WRONG, ABRASIVE, JUDGEMENTAL BOMBMANIAC. Whoa! Again, you guys really should wait for more details before writing novels to Dan. In my personal opinion, he should have included some of these details in his presentation, but instead he wanted to tell his life story or something... either way, you should wait. Also, we (FOR THE 100TH TIME) WE ARE NOT CHOOSING MINUTE DECISIONS LIKE WHAT HE EATS AND WHEN HE POOPS!!!!(At least thats what i got from watching his speech) We are choosing goals for each individual day and week and month. A goal is NOT going to be eat cherios..... He is showing that if this projects is successful and it improves his life, it could do the same for organisations, or schools, or companies. I really hope everyone in here has watched his speech he gave at vidcon and if you haven't you should NOT be posting in here!!!!! You will not get the awesomeness of the project if u read about it or heard it from a friend. Heres the video: Pt. 1 Pt 2.
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Post by Gesh on Jul 11, 2010 19:21:19 GMT -5
Right. I don't think people understand that we aren't choosing what he eats, when he goes to bed, or when he poops. We are giving him goals for the day, like meet your neighbors, walk 2 miles, or learn to square dance. He isn't having us like write his day schedule. Just a goal that he needs to accomplish in that day that would either improve the world or just for him to have fun. His hypothesis is that this will improve his life (just like it would if an organisation adopted this form of decision making) so we need to suggest fun things to do. ^^^ This is the key, right here. I've said this before, I believe. Even if this project by itself does not change the world, the chain reaction it could very well result in will change the world. The point is to see whether having a large community work together to make decisions for Dan's life will improve his life. If it does improve his life, that will show people that community and direct democracy often works better than representatives or a small group of people making all the decisions. This is exactly what Dan wants to show the world, and this project is the perfect way to do it.
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Post by persondudekid on Jul 11, 2010 19:22:08 GMT -5
Think about it, when the internet was just getting started, many people thought it was going to fail and not get as big as it is now. So for the skeptics out there, give it some time.
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Post by bombmaniac on Jul 11, 2010 19:44:25 GMT -5
nick...give up. we've made our points on our threads in youtube and internets. if people still dont get it...well...thats their problem. let them have their fun.
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Post by lupin on Jul 11, 2010 20:10:35 GMT -5
To be honest, It's not too good of an idea IMO, I really don`t see how this can change the world, we tell dan something like "Today you should go buy an icecream" or, "This week you should go swimming everyday" It doesn't seem like it could change the world, It's a very brave thing for him to do, But just not that interesting. *puts coment for THIRD time due to ignorance* i can now see how thi will change the world pepole will submit ideas of things they want to do, but are to lazy to do pepole will see dan brown doing it an will just want to do it more badly or pepole will see he does not do it and will want to do it more badly pepole will eventually achieve their oown goals, thus making the world a better place refrigerator
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