PogoTribe Constitution

[kevinlankey]

I think we should have some sort of Constitution as a Tribe, stating what it is we are here for and what kind of responsibilities we should have as a TribesHumanoid.

How shall we draft it? Quill pens anyone?

[Cortney]

Hm, wouldn't the values serve this purpose?

[Ricky]

maybe we should re-name the values to something more governmental like "The Charter of Lunar Tribe"

[Dimstow]

I think that ,in the same way that the U.S. constitution states the abilities and function of the different sections of government, we could use the same type of sections to lay out the abilities and funstions of
Admins,
Mods, how and who are watching over(lack of better term, im tired) Wiki and SPOTM .
how to punish 'Peeps who be Trollin'', and
how to become/replace admins and mods,
maybe even Dan himself (not to replace him or anything but like if Dan had an accident or something and couldn't really continue his leadership).

the values would be kind of sort of like the amendments but instead of right of the people they're our...Values...

I'm just kind of throwing things out there but if we could put all the documents of Pogotribian government (Again, government probably isn't the right term but by golly I'm tired) into a single ...thing it would make it easier to access, read and refer too

Plus we'd get to name it something cool <_<

[Cortney]

Mar 10, 2010 21:15:51 GMT -5 Dimstow said:

Admins,
Mods, how and who are watching over(lack of better term, im tired) Wiki and SPOTM .
how to punish 'Peeps who be Trollin'', and
how to become/replace admins and mods,
maybe even Dan himself (not to replace him or anything but like if Dan had an accident or something and couldn't really continue his leadership).

Okay, some of this is being discussed behind closed doors right now. Dan's motto lately is "one step at a time," and a lot of the things you've described here can't all be defined at this stage.

Let's get this government rolling before we write a constitution, if we choose to write one. I definitely appreciate the enthusiasm, but this isn't something we can just sit down and write without trying out a few things first.

[Dimstow]

Cortney
Absolutely understood!
I know that personally, being a part of a community of awesome people who actually listen to each other and where my crazy ideas can be heard, I tend to go overboard sometimes....
But realistically the idea of a constitution is a very 'Something to keep in mind when we get around to it' Idea
though it is fantastic >_>

[kevinlankey]

Didn't mean for this to be such a problem...

Was just throwing out ideas....



I'm gonna go cry now. =(

[Cortney]

No, no it's not a problem! I really appreciate that you're trying to help. I'm not mad, I was just saying to wait. Don't feel bad. Feel great. ^_^

[andromeda]

Well, if we look at other governments, the Constitution comes first.

In grand-old America we came up with a document immediately after revolting against the Brits. The Articles of Confederation were radical and sloppy, but they represented what the people of America wanted at the time. When they failed, everyone gathered again to fix the weaknesses that were now evident and the Constitution was born. When the new document again showed flaws, the Amendment process allowed room for change and evolution.

Right now we should be discussing and writing our constitution. How can we have a government if there is nothing to outline it's purpose and plan? It will be loose and messy and many parts of it will be superfluous or won't work. But that's OK. Later, as we see weaknesses in the document, we can change them to fit our needs accordingly.

As to where the discussion on forming the constitution should take place, I don't know. Wherever it fits best, I suppose.

[IslaFahlia]

Unless we have a way to communicate face-to-face (which most of our communities do, including the Triads), then this forum is the best place to start talking about our Constitution. After all, the thread started here and not anywhere else for a reason.

So first off, obviously, there's Dan Brown at the head. The admins are all second-in-commands and right-hand men. I believe that the first 11 Triads should be next in line, as they volunteered for a project they knew nothing about and were specially chosen (through a random number generator, but still chosen) by Dan. They definitely deserve their own seat of power.

Then there would be the second line of Triads, but since they don't exist yet, there's us, the Normals, Regulars, and N00bs.

Our values are centered on making the world a better place, one step (and project) at a time. Our oath should go something like this:

'We, as the PogoTribe, vow to devote our resources and capabilities to the formation of a better Tribe, and by extension and influence, a better world. We will use our talents to pursue a Stage 5 existence, and use our passions to fuel us in providing for the PogoTribe's best interest.'

That's what I have so far. Decipher what you will and enjoy life.

[Cortney]

Andromeda
In a way, we're going through the Articles of Confederation right now. We have our values and are trying to live by them, and we are experimenting. We don't even have a government yet. We have the administrators (most of them, anyway), and that's all. I'm not trying to sound snippy or anything. I'm just saying it's not quite the time to write out a constitution, though that time is coming. If you want to brainstorm, though, feel free!

IslaFahlia
Alright, what you seem to be doing is dividing up all of the members into "classes," which is what we DON'T want to do. Level 4 and 5 are about equality. Yes, there is a first round of triads, but there will be so many more rounds, there's no reason to set them apart. We want all of the triads, admins, and Dan to be viewed equally. No one is above anyone else. Yes, we have more power as admins, but that's all. We shouldn't be set apart from everyone else in any other way.

[IslaFahlia]

Cortney:

I agree with you. The PogoTribe is one tight-nit unit. But there are levels here, whether they're immediately obvious or not. Dan is a leader who blends in with the people, but he still leads. After all, he is the person who the PogoTribe was formed for, and in return he staked a claim on the South Pole of the Moon for us to speak on important issues. Any other time, he speaks with us and we speak with him as though there were nothing different about him. But there is. And it's a great thing.

As far as the Admin and Triad levels go, I'll admit maybe it was a bit much. But figuring out a government begins with the levels of power, and those are what I believe they are.

That is my stance. Decipher what you will, and enjoy life.