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Post by Kevak on Aug 5, 2010 15:32:15 GMT -5
Thoughts?
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Post by Alex on Aug 5, 2010 17:50:47 GMT -5
Impossible to prove existence of god.
EDIT: Or to prove god doesn't exist.
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Post by Speckley on Aug 5, 2010 23:40:37 GMT -5
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Post by Ricky on Aug 5, 2010 23:51:59 GMT -5
nothing to do with this argument but I love this video xD
(watch it on full screen)
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Post by thelighterdark on Aug 6, 2010 1:19:22 GMT -5
First off, I love The AmazingAtheist. He's one of few famous Youtubers that has real validity to his arguments because he isn't ignorant and he's done his research.
And of course, I'm non-denominational Christian. Which, whilst being slightly off-topic begs me to ask, is non-denominational, denominational? I don't know, I hope not. Haha.
I can't ever give a real reason why I believe in God. Do I think he's out there? Sure, somewhere out there I'm sure he's there. Maybe he's watching our every move like the Bible says, or maybe he's just watching the world turn with all of "His creations."
I don't really ever argue his existence with people. I want everyone to believe what everyone needs to believe. I would never try to enforce my religion upon anyone because it's stupid to do so.
The main reason I believe in any way, shape, or form of God is simply because, I don't want to face the "eternal punishment" that Christianity has present me with. If I don't believe in God I'll die in a fire? Holy SHIRT! That's not what I want at all.
But I always asks myself, what if another religion punishes me in a similar manner for not believing what they believe? Truth is, I really can't come up with a strong answer and just believe what I believe because I always have.
Come to think of it, I never realized just how confused about my own religion I am. Hmm. He does make a lot of good points, I just don't want to be wrong.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 6, 2010 3:28:29 GMT -5
First off, I love The AmazingAtheist. He's one of few famous Youtubers that has real validity to his arguments because he isn't ignorant and he's done his research. And of course, I'm non-denominational Christian. Which, whilst being slightly off-topic begs me to ask, is non-denominational, denominational? I don't know, I hope not. Haha. I can't ever give a real reason why I believe in God. Do I think he's out there? Sure, somewhere out there I'm sure he's there. Maybe he's watching our every move like the Bible says, or maybe he's just watching the world turn with all of "His creations." I don't really ever argue his existence with people. I want everyone to believe what everyone needs to believe. I would never try to enforce my religion upon anyone because it's stupid to do so. The main reason I believe in any way, shape, or form of God is simply because, I don't want to face the "eternal punishment" that Christianity has present me with. If I don't believe in God I'll die in a fire? Holy SHIRT! That's not what I want at all. But I always asks myself, what if another religion punishes me in a similar manner for not believing what they believe? Truth is, I really can't come up with a strong answer and just believe what I believe because I always have. Come to think of it, I never realized just how confused about my own religion I am. Hmm. He does make a lot of good points, I just don't want to be wrong. I don't know what is up with the "Non-denominational" denomination... We have a Non-denominational Presbyterian Church here in Myrtle Beach... Also, I believe in God solely based on spiritual experience. I'm not going to argue with anyone on whether God exists or not, because it's useless to even debate the subject. I've felt some sort of large spiritual power moving through me recently, and something just tells me that it's God. I'm not really sure how to explain it without making anybody think I'm just "another one of those Jesus-freaks". Also, I really dislike TheAmazingAtheist. He makes all Christians out to be these close-minded assholes that just won't accept facts or do research. Well, I've been an atheist almost my entire life until recently. I've researched evolution and everything, and I believe that science and religion can co-exist. What's to say that God didn't create the universe and lead the creation of the Earth with his own hands?
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Post by thelighterdark on Aug 6, 2010 12:30:14 GMT -5
I don't know what is up with the "Non-denominational" denomination... We have a Non-denominational Presbyterian Church here in Myrtle Beach... Sorry, I was just thinking how funny it seems that there are churches for non-denominational Christians. *Sigh* ...What's to say that God didn't create the universe and lead the creation of the Earth with his own hands? And I love the way you put that. The only part of his video that I really disagreed with was the whole "Oh science has proved that wrong since then." I mean, was God supposed to be writing to people two millenniums ago with our scientific knowledge? That would confuse the fuck out of them.
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Post by Joey on Aug 6, 2010 13:55:34 GMT -5
I dont like theamazingatheist. Here's why.
He seems to see all Christians as a whole, not as people. He assumes to much.
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Post by Alex on Aug 6, 2010 14:21:11 GMT -5
I dont like theamazingatheist. Here's why. He seems to see all Christians as a whole, not as people. He assumes to much. I unsubscribed from TAA because of that.
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Post by Ricky on Aug 6, 2010 15:26:21 GMT -5
I know TAA has his issues, but I still like some of his videos. For the most part they are somewhat funny and entertaining at times.
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Post by ladystardust on Aug 8, 2010 0:01:26 GMT -5
There's an entire movement of "YouTube Atheism," which is really intriguing. There's a really interesting discussion here:
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Post by low on Aug 8, 2010 0:54:09 GMT -5
Also, I really dislike TheAmazingAtheist. He makes all Christians out to be these close-minded assholes that just won't accept facts or do research. Well, I've been an atheist almost my entire life until recently. I've researched evolution and everything, and I believe that science and religion can co-exist. What's to say that God didn't create the universe and lead the creation of the Earth with his own hands? The Bible/Torah/Talmud certainly says that happened, but that's not falsifiable nor verifiable in any possible way right now. TheAmazingAtheist, while often a jackass, made the point that many explanations in the Bible are highly falsifiable and definitely false. The authority of the Bible is in question...or rather nonexistent. Much of what is in it is simply not true and other aspects of it are not known to be true nor false.
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