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Post by h2oloobmx on Aug 10, 2010 20:33:22 GMT -5
Okay, so I wouldn't be here if I didn't really think this was important, and would make Dan 3.0 better. When I first heard about Dan 3.0, what came to my mind was, pretty much, a constant webcam feed of Dan, and what he was doing. People would watch the show and tell him what to do at that very moment, and tasks would only last about 10 minutes. It'd be like a game, putting up an idea, and seeing it rise and fall amongst others. I realize that this isn't really plausible. So what I came up with was this, and I'll just repost what I posted in the decision engine. It's a way to put more control in our hands, and it wouldn't be terribly difficult to implement. Edit: Added link to proposed change here. revision3.com/dan30/task/daily-decisions- |
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Post by chibibella on Aug 10, 2010 20:54:30 GMT -5
I thought Dan 3.0 would be about this to.
Glad I was not the only one ^^
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Post by jmejia1187 on Aug 10, 2010 21:53:12 GMT -5
Uhm, the point was never to micromanage his life, only micromanage... See the FAQ videos released before the start of Dan 3.0
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Post by jcchamberlain on Aug 10, 2010 22:27:51 GMT -5
I'm gonna agree with jmejia1187 on this. The tech specs for setting up a live feed like that would be hellish, not to mention the stress put on Dan by stalling the decisions he makes everyday for a considerable amount of time. But I do propose a compromise: revision3.com/dan30/task/daily-idea-compromiseI think instead of trying to do a small idea every day, which as today's video showed is really impossible, AND instead of just choosing which days you want to perform a task and which you don't, which makes it seem like we aren't as in control of Dan's life as we first thought, there should be a compromise where every episode Dan shows himself WORKING towards accomplishing a task. This could be as small as booking a flight or working out to prepare for his world record, or as large as documenting a travel experience or engaging in discussions on SPOTM. As long as some small amount of progress is made towards a task every episode, then we will feel like we are constantly affecting his life and it is much more in our hands. revision3.com/dan30/task/daily-idea-compromiseJust a thought I had, let me know what you all think |
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Post by h2oloobmx on Aug 10, 2010 22:49:02 GMT -5
Look, it's not a considerable amount of time. He just posts 5-10 minutes ahead of when he plans on doing something. It would cause him to think ahead, which is good. It doesn't really have to be stressful, as you make it out to sound.
And live feeds aren't terrible to set up. Tech specs aren't hellish. I'm talking about text, not webcam. Maybe a live polling application inside, I'm not sure, it's still a rough idea.
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Post by dirmartiningle on Aug 10, 2010 23:21:41 GMT -5
As jmejia1187 said, I thought we all realized Dan 3.0 wasn't about the small mundane tasks... not only is that not much of a "social experiment", but it's just plain uninteresting.
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Post by daranguyen on Aug 11, 2010 4:11:25 GMT -5
I have been following Dan for quite a while. By watching Dan 3.0 for the past week, I have noticed, as have many others, people complaining that it isn't how they expected it to be. Granted, I feel the same way. Complaining and arguing isn't the way to solve this issue and I'm glad that people are working towards fixing it. Having a live feed would be great because it would allow us to make his decisions. However, we must take into consideration how much it costs, how much more stress this would add to Dan, and the amount of viewers. Now I say viewers because people aren't constantly going be watching Dan, as much as they would love to do so. People are busy; work, school, family, etc. If Dan doesn't have many viewers at the moment, not many people are going to be able to vote. When he completes a certain task according to the people who have submitted their thoughts, other Pogotribe members may complain that they didn't get to control his life for that particular task in question. Also what if a member didn't have access to the Internet at the moment? They may feel somewhat left out? of the decision making. I know that this show has only launched a week ago and we must be patient to see it grow and evolve over time. Now I do agree with dirmartiningle and jmejia1187 saying that this is an experiment or exercise to Macromanage Dan's life, which is great because we would be making a larger impact in the world we live in. However; I believe that the small tasks, the daily tasks, are necessary steps to take to be able to go on and take even larger steps, or bigger goals. Members will feel like they are a part of this project even if they are daily tasks. This will allow both Dan and the Pogotribe to be more comfortable with each other. I notice in the decision engine that there a lot of tasks, but tasks with out deadlines or due dates. My proposal: Add deadlines on the task proposal submission page. revision3.com/dan30/task/deadlines-for-tasksHopefully, Dan will be more encouraged to fulfill and record these tasks for his viewers to see, and thus making us feel more useful. revision3.com/dan30/task/deadlines-for-tasksWe are aware that Dan has regular routine. For instance, waking up and eating breakfast. If we can control what he eats for breakfast everyday, yes I know a small task, we might feel more in control of his life. My proposal: Set up a module in which we can choose what he eats for breakfast the following day. Yes, I know this seems like a small and perhaps an unimportant daily task, however, if we are able to successfully communicate with Dan as to what he eats for breakfast everyday, we, as a tribe, will be able to move onto making even larger decisions and other daily tasks as well. And for now I'm only suggesting to choose what he eats for breakfast. Now, I haven't submitted this as a technical change yet because I know it is a touchy subject and many people want to honor what Dan has said about micro/macro management. But please tell me what you think! I apologize for such a long reply! |
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Post by jmejia1187 on Aug 11, 2010 9:37:13 GMT -5
Look, it's not a considerable amount of time. He just posts 5-10 minutes ahead of when he plans on doing something. It would cause him to think ahead, which is good. It doesn't really have to be stressful, as you make it out to sound. And live feeds aren't terrible to set up. Tech specs aren't hellish. I'm talking about text, not webcam. Maybe a live polling application inside, I'm not sure, it's still a rough idea. That is the problem. He has a slow internet, and the video type for revision 3 leads to huge file sizes... It takes a few hours to post a video of a few minutes... What you're asking for will take up much of his day |
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Post by h2oloobmx on Aug 11, 2010 21:22:52 GMT -5
This is really a way to satisfy his userbase that doesn't feel like they're in control at all. You all have the side of Dan3.0 that you think the project is all about. You can do suggest your tasks with the decision engine. That's what you want out of it. But other people want other things out of it. This is a way to make everyone happy.
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Post by h2oloobmx on Aug 19, 2010 5:49:12 GMT -5
And you all laughed!
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