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Post by Lex on Nov 9, 2010 18:37:16 GMT -5
Though, this might be more suited for the Debate Club section... but I don't know.
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Post by qooqǝɯɐƃ on Nov 9, 2010 19:40:30 GMT -5
I feel like WWII was justified although I probably don't know enough. I mean I hear things like American companies supplied Germany with petrol, and the "Allies" were told not to bomb certain facilities that turned out to be manufacturing plants and the like... So I'm not convinced war is ever so black and white, that it's ever "good vs evil." But I don't even have a clear idea of what the poppy stands for... and I don't even usually wear one either.
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Post by Breepop on Nov 9, 2010 19:55:42 GMT -5
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What is a "poppy"?
I assume "Remembrance Day" is the Canadian/commonwealth equivalent to our to Veterans Day. We don't really wear anything special (that I know of). Just have parades and such.
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Post by Alex on Nov 9, 2010 19:58:37 GMT -5
...? What is a "poppy"? I assume "Remembrance Day" is the Canadian/commonwealth equivalent to our to Veterans Day. We don't really wear anything special (that I know of). Just have parades and such.  A poppy is usually worn in remembrance of those lost in wars, and even those who survived. They are also worn on that day to show you support our troops. It's bullhockey to me. |
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Post by Breepop on Nov 9, 2010 20:07:36 GMT -5
k, yeah, I just didn't know if "poppy" might be a name for something else besides the flower.
I've never seen anyone wear those.
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Post by Lex on Nov 9, 2010 20:44:52 GMT -5
k, yeah, I just didn't know if "poppy" might be a name for something else besides the flower. I've never seen anyone wear those. Almost everyone wears them in Britain and Canada near and on Remembrance Day (Veteran's Day in the USA) |
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Post by Flappy on Nov 10, 2010 0:09:49 GMT -5
Hmm, interesting.
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Post by austkyzor on Nov 22, 2010 10:49:56 GMT -5
I'm a bit late to the party, but I have a point to make regardless...
You didn't wear a poppy... because you believe in what the poppy represents...
Wait! Don't leave! I'm going somewhere with this!
The poppy isn't a reminder that we were the good guys - it was never such a representation (at least, not intentionally).
The poppy's purpose is to remind us of the millions upon millions of people who have died in countless wars. Not just our own. While Remembrance Day itself is meant for our own war dead, I feel that the entire month is to remember the millions of war dead all over the world. I wear a poppy for Canada, but I also wear it for Germany, Turkey, Italy, Japan, Russia, Vietnam, both Koreas, Cuba, The Falklands, The Congo, Iraq, Cambodia, England, France, Poland - any and every country that's been touched by war.
That's what the poppy is supposed to represent.
So I wear a Poppy, but I don't wear it for only my country. I mean, yes, we've participated in many terrible wars, and contributed to the deaths of many - but no country is innocent. The old generations died trying to protect the newer generations - not just us, but all over the world.
So I wear a poppy - and I hold it in place with a pin of Earth - because I want to remember the deaths of everybody who has ever died in a war. It's also why every veteran I've ever met wears one. It's why my uncle (who effectively commands at least a quarter our army) wears one, it's why everybody I know who was alive during WW2 wears one, and it should be why you wear one.
But - I still respect your decision. Perhaps I'm deluded by my high school experience, or my community (Peterborough has a LOT of veterans). I don't think your decision was disrespectful, or wrong, or anything like that - I just feel it was a bit... rash. We effectively have the same message - but our actions to represent them are very different. I know you've probably taken a bit of flak for your choice.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 24, 2010 22:13:16 GMT -5
...? What is a "poppy"? I assume "Remembrance Day" is the Canadian/commonwealth equivalent to our to Veterans Day. We don't really wear anything special (that I know of). Just have parades and such. A lot of people wear poppies made out of paper (http://dft.ba/-6cl) around the time of year (11th November) because some of the battlefields of WWI are now covered in poppies. A poem associated with this is called "In Flanders Fields" (Flanders being the location of the battlefields). Also, at the Remembrance service, wreaths of poppies are placed on the war memorials. |
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