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Post by Freddy on Dec 16, 2010 7:20:13 GMT -5
Ok, this time I'm completely useless. . Sorry.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 16, 2010 10:09:35 GMT -5
Wait... he's agnostic and would never change his beliefs? Doesn't being agnostic imply that some kind of evidence would sway you to either side?
Anyway, to me it doesn't sound like the barrier is Christianity. Philippa is Christian and she doesn't have a problem with Brian's not being Christian. The barrier here is Philippa's parents.
Personally, I would tell her to ignore them.
In situations like this, the parents providing conditions like "He must go to youth club" is almost ridiculous. What... like anyone who does not go to a youth club is "evil"?
Philippa can make her own decisions - she should tell her parents to stay out of the entire thing.
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Post by newschooled on Dec 16, 2010 10:20:50 GMT -5
^^^That. It was a similar situation when my wife and I started dating in high school. She came from a super duper Bible-thumper family and I was for the most part, agnostic. Her parents eventually just accepted the reality and me for who I am. (Although over the years, her dad and I have had some EPIC arguments about religion and dogma!)
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Post by Lyserg Zeroz on Dec 16, 2010 10:28:32 GMT -5
Agnostic can also be that he thinks that we can't know the answer. They should try it anyways, no matter what the parents say.
Also, is the purpose of that to change his beliefs? Because the parents should really understand that even if he is going to whatever group that is not going to happen, at best he is going to lie to them about his beliefs. I suppose he could go to the youth groups or whatever, that doesn't mean he has to change his beliefs, although as I said, I don't know the nature of this groups, so I don't really now. ... Or maybe try to get to a middle ground, like, going for a trial period to those youth groups (he would go out with Philippa no matter if he stays or not in the youth groups)
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Post by Lex on Dec 16, 2010 12:54:32 GMT -5
used to be gay but recently changed his sexuality. recently changed his sexuality. This always irks me. You don't change your sexuality. Either he was gay to begin with, or he was just curious -- or maybe he's bisexual. There is no "changing" of sexuality. That's always pissed me off. It's like when someone says "remember this lady? yeah, she's full-on lesbian now". I just want to remind her, as a LGBT individual myself, that people don't change their sexuality, they only discover further what they like and/or don't like.
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Post by newschooled on Dec 16, 2010 12:55:56 GMT -5
Ultimately, it is completely foolish to judge the worth of an individual by their religious beliefs. For example, if they want you to go to youth group, then it goes without saying that you must be a practicing Christian to be good enough to hang out with their girl. This totally monopolizes and overlooks every other aspect of your being. By this logic, would they let you befriend her if you were a serial ax murderer and rapist...But went to youth group?
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Post by Linus on Dec 16, 2010 14:30:38 GMT -5
used to be gay but recently changed his sexuality. This always irks me. You don't change your sexuality. I know, right? I was like "whaaaaat... "
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Post by Ferrrrrre on Dec 16, 2010 15:41:22 GMT -5
I agree with all of the above.. Maybe a good talk with all the people involved can solve things.. and getting the prejudices out of the way, let the parents get to know Brian..
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Post by amon91 on Dec 16, 2010 20:25:32 GMT -5
First, you can't change your sexuality. As you grow up you might figure out you might actually have a different sexuality, but you can't CHANGE it, so be careful with that. All you both need to be is open-minded about each other's religion.
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Post by qooqǝɯɐƃ on Dec 17, 2010 16:35:12 GMT -5
WHERE'S THE OP!?!?!? HOW DO I RESPOND WITHOUT IT!?!?!?
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