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Post by thejourney on Apr 6, 2010 17:27:54 GMT -5
i believe marijuana should be legalized in the US
post your opinion and why
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Post by Joey on Apr 6, 2010 17:29:32 GMT -5
well, it does have benifites. BUT only used in moderation! Then yes it should be legal. (Are you talking off the shelve or over the counter?)
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Post by Lex on Apr 6, 2010 17:33:11 GMT -5
Yes. With proper laws and regulations applied, yes. There's no problem with it.
Personally, I don't use narcotics and I really hate them, but if others want to do it, then go ahead. Just make sure that there's proper education and regulations involved.
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Post by mrretrofire on Apr 6, 2010 17:41:40 GMT -5
Im totally against drug use but i believe that you should be able to smoke a plant legally in the us. it just makes sense. What ever happened to land of the free?
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Post by thejourney on Apr 6, 2010 17:43:45 GMT -5
im not talking for medicinal medicine because thats just bull in my mind I'm talking just using it for fun like cigarettes or alcohol
P.S. Ive never done drugs of any kind
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Post by korojo01 on Apr 6, 2010 17:46:06 GMT -5
I feel that marijuana should be legal. I believe it should have the same regulations that tobacco or alcohol have. Realistically marijuana has less harmful effects then tobacco does. As long as we still make it illegal to be under the influence while operating a vehicle and around school zones and such i dont see the harm i legalizing marijuana. marijuana is a really hard drug to even overdoes on because typically you will fall asleep before you can overdoes. That is just my thoughts on marijuana and why it should be legal.
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Post by Trey on Apr 6, 2010 18:14:01 GMT -5
What's so bad about marijuana? Is it any worse than McDonalds food? We've all heard the myths, and let me tell you that they're mostly false.
Myth #1 One of the biggest, stupidest myths is the thing about one joint equaling 7 cigarettes. Firstly, this myth is very false. While marijuana contains a touch more tar than cigarettes, it does not contain the many deadly chemicals that are contained in cigarettes. Also, marijuana has been proven effective AGAINST many types of cancer. Besides, you really don't have to smoke marijuana anyway; You can eat it, and still get high. People smoke it because you don't get as high when you eat it. For most people, it's too expensive to eat, so they make the most of what they've got by smoking it. If marijuana was taxed and regulated, you can eat it since it'll be cheap by then.
Myth #2 My mom actually told me this one xD. "Pot is 6 times more potent than it was in the 60's". This is absolutely false. Even if it was, however, that would be a good thing! Why, you might ask? It's because, a more intense marijuana would only require a couple of puffs to get the same effect as a lesser marijuana that would require a lot more. Thus, less tar gets in your lungs!
Myth #3 "Marijuana contains over 200 chemicals!" So what? Coffee contains over 800 chemicals!
Myth #4 "Marijuana is a gateway drug". Anybody who says this is simply guilty of using the "Slippery Slope" fallacy. It really doesn't support their argument.
Myth #5 "Marijuana makes you stupid". Go home. Don't think for a second that it burns out your "feel good" hormones. The THC doesn't kill brain cells, it actually tickles them.
Here are some more facts about marijuana worth noting: Marijuana does not cause a hangover (Unlike Alcohol), you can not overdose on marijuana (unlike many medications that kids try to get high off of), and it's not chemically addictive (Unlike cigarettes, many types of meds, caffeine, etc.).
More tax dollars, less crime! Did you know it costs 22k a year just to keep a con in prison? There are way too many people in jail for marijuana possession. Really, all they wanted to do was wind down after a hard day at work, lol. We need to stop wasting tax money on people who don't belong in prison.
Another thing, don't let people tell you it's a drug. It's NOT a drug, lol. It's a PLANT. If marijuana is a drug, so is coffee, tea, and restaurant food (MSG).
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Post by Lex on Apr 6, 2010 18:17:27 GMT -5
Another thing, don't let people tell you it's a drug. It's NOT a drug, lol. It's a PLANT. If marijuana is a drug, so is coffee, tea, and restaurant food (MSG). No, by definition, a drug "is any substance that, when absorbed into the body of a living organism, alters normal bodily function". Marijuana does this - it is a drug and it is a narcotic. With your point about coffee and tea, it is slightly correct. Caffeine is a drug found in both of those. Now believe me, I'm on your side about this. I think society would be better off with it legalized, but I was making a slight correction.
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Post by Trey on Apr 6, 2010 18:35:32 GMT -5
Another thing, don't let people tell you it's a drug. It's NOT a drug, lol. It's a PLANT. If marijuana is a drug, so is coffee, tea, and restaurant food (MSG). No, by definition, a drug "is any substance that, when absorbed into the body of a living organism, alters normal bodily function". Marijuana does this - it is a drug and it is a narcotic. With your point about coffee and tea, it is slightly correct. Caffeine is a drug found in both of those. Now believe me, I'm on your side about this. I think society would be better off with it legalized, but I was making a slight correction. I should have made myself a little bit more clear by saying that the plant itself is not a drug, but the THC inside IS a drug. Without the THC, marijuana will not get you high without the drug contained inside. A cannabis plant of the sativa variety referred to as "Hemp" actually contains no THC, and will not make you high, but it's still cannabis! You may say the same thing with coffee. Coffee itself is not a drug, but the caffeine inside IS a drug. Without the caffeine, you will not get the morning buzz you're looking for. I'm sure you've heard of decaffeinated coffee? Marijuana does not make you high, THC does
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Post by Leo McGinnis on Apr 6, 2010 18:44:32 GMT -5
Well, it's already been legal in the Netherlands (where I live at the moment) for a looooong time and really, it's not a huge problem at all.
A very common and popular misconception is that most Dutch people frequently visit the (to foreigners) notorious "coffeeshops" to get baked every day. Every single student from the US (but also many from other European countries) that I talked to asks me about this. It's actually the foreigners who most often frequent them since it's legal over here. Of course it's still regulated by the government and one is only allowed to possess limited quantities, which helps keep it in check.
I honestly think the drug problem would be bigger it it weren't legal over here.
It's funny. From what I hear from exchange students more kids in the US have used marijuana (despite it being illegal) than those over here. Basically, because it's legal, it's simply not a big deal. It's not considered exotic by the Dutch. It's just something that you can do if you think it's worth the money and you're into that sort of thing. Personally I've never used it, nor do I feel any desire to. Some of my friends do it regularly, though.
I'm not saying it should definitely be legal in the US. You know, different societies and all. I just think that the downsides are over-exaggerated a little bit. And over here it works just fine.
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Post by Lex on Apr 6, 2010 18:47:25 GMT -5
No, by definition, a drug "is any substance that, when absorbed into the body of a living organism, alters normal bodily function". Marijuana does this - it is a drug and it is a narcotic. With your point about coffee and tea, it is slightly correct. Caffeine is a drug found in both of those. Now believe me, I'm on your side about this. I think society would be better off with it legalized, but I was making a slight correction. I should have made myself a little bit more clear by saying that the plant itself is not a drug, but the THC inside IS a drug. Without the THC, marijuana will not get you high without the drug contained inside. A cannabis plant of the sativa variety referred to as "Hemp" actually contains no THC, and will not make you high, but it's still cannabis! You may say the same thing with coffee. Coffee itself is not a drug, but the caffeine inside IS a drug. Without the caffeine, you will not get the morning buzz you're looking for. I'm sure you've heard of decaffeinated coffee? Marijuana does not make you high, THC does This is true.
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Post by mrretrofire on Apr 6, 2010 18:47:51 GMT -5
No, by definition, a drug "is any substance that, when absorbed into the body of a living organism, alters normal bodily function". Marijuana does this - it is a drug and it is a narcotic. With your point about coffee and tea, it is slightly correct. Caffeine is a drug found in both of those. Now believe me, I'm on your side about this. I think society would be better off with it legalized, but I was making a slight correction. I should have made myself a little bit more clear by saying that the plant itself is not a drug, but the THC inside IS a drug. Without the THC, marijuana will not get you high without the drug contained inside. A cannabis plant of the sativa variety referred to as "Hemp" actually contains no THC, and will not make you high, but it's still cannabis! You may say the same thing with coffee. Coffee itself is not a drug, but the caffeine inside IS a drug. Without the caffeine, you will not get the morning buzz you're looking for. I'm sure you've heard of decaffeinated coffee? Marijuana does not make you high, THC does That may be but in this thread we are talking about marijuana being legalized TO BE USED AS A DRUG not to put in our gardens and put our prized marijuana plant in a contest.
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Post by riddler on Apr 6, 2010 18:51:56 GMT -5
Well, I'm from the Netherlands, and here, the stuff is actually legel, in moderation. In my town especially, there's ever so many kids wasting their lives purely on the messing around with trying to get more. They skip school, get jobs for practically no money, usually illegal aswell.
I myself never have used it, cause I didn't see any reason to try. When I want to feel good, I do something I like, for example playing volleybal, or hanging out with friends. Whenever I want to make myself feel less sick/ill, I take a day of for some rest and a decent amount of water. People should try that, seriously. Also, against stress, is taking stuff less severe. (Judging to consequence rather than who told you what).
So, yah, I say ban it, completely. (Also, don't go 'medical' for it, there are other, way better, ways of curing whatever you have, aside from an addiction.
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Post by Lex on Apr 6, 2010 18:56:21 GMT -5
Well, I'm from the Netherlands, and here, the stuff is actually legel, in moderation. In my town especially, there's ever so many kids wasting their lives purely on the messing around with trying to get more. They skip school, get jobs for practically no money, usually illegal aswell. I myself never have used it, cause I didn't see any reason to try. When I want to feel good, I do something I like, for example playing volleybal, or hanging out with friends. Whenever I want to make myself feel less sick/ill, I take a day of for some rest and a decent amount of water. People should try that, seriously. Also, against stress, is taking stuff less severe. (Judging to consequence rather than who told you what). So, yah, I say ban it, completely. (Also, don't go 'medical' for it, there are other, way better, ways of curing whatever you have, aside from an addiction. It's interesting that you have two sides here, one which has the stuff banned entirely that wishes to have it legalized, and on the other side is somewhere where it is legal, but they want it to be banned. How about somewhere in the middle? Like have a certain age at which it can be sold to them (like a drinking age).
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Post by Leo McGinnis on Apr 6, 2010 18:56:55 GMT -5
Well, I'm from the Netherlands, and here, the stuff is actually legel, in moderation. In my town especially, there's ever so many kids wasting their lives purely on the messing around with trying to get more. They skip school, get jobs for practically no money, usually illegal aswell. I myself never have used it, cause I didn't see any reason to try. When I want to feel good, I do something I like, for example playing volleybal, or hanging out with friends. Whenever I want to make myself feel less sick/ill, I take a day of for some rest and a decent amount of water. People should try that, seriously. Also, against stress, is taking stuff less severe. (Judging to consequence rather than who told you what). So, yah, I say ban it, completely. (Also, don't go 'medical' for it, there are other, way better, ways of curing whatever you have, aside from an addiction. Just out of curiosity, what town might that be? I don't want to rub you the wrong way, but it sounds like you're living in a problem area, because from my experience (though it's limited to Utrecht and the eastern regions - don't know about the "Randstad") it's never been that big a deal. In most towns it's not even on the political agenda as far as I'm aware. My friends in Amsterdam say the same thing: at least among the natives there aren't many problems. It's usually the really young kids (for whom it's illegal anyway) and tourists that get into the most trouble. Also, consider that making it illegal would only fuel drug trafficking, making the problem worse instead of better.
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Post by kevinguy247 on Apr 6, 2010 18:58:28 GMT -5
There's nothing I can really say that nobody's said already except, prohibition didn't work. All it did was bring about a nationwide disrespect for law and order. Legal or not people are always gonna smoke pot.
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Post by Lex on Apr 6, 2010 19:05:55 GMT -5
There's nothing I can really say that nobody's said already except, prohibition didn't work. All it did was bring about a nationwide disrespect for law and order. Legal or not people are always gonna smoke pot. Legalizing it would make it a whole lot safer, though. Plus, it's less time for the police force to be wasting.
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Post by riddler on Apr 6, 2010 19:07:33 GMT -5
Well, I'm from the Netherlands, and here, the stuff is actually legel, in moderation. In my town especially, there's ever so many kids wasting their lives purely on the messing around with trying to get more. They skip school, get jobs for practically no money, usually illegal aswell. I myself never have used it, cause I didn't see any reason to try. When I want to feel good, I do something I like, for example playing volleybal, or hanging out with friends. Whenever I want to make myself feel less sick/ill, I take a day of for some rest and a decent amount of water. People should try that, seriously. Also, against stress, is taking stuff less severe. (Judging to consequence rather than who told you what). So, yah, I say ban it, completely. (Also, don't go 'medical' for it, there are other, way better, ways of curing whatever you have, aside from an addiction. Just out of curiosity, what town might that be? I don't want to rub you the wrong way, but it sounds like you're living in a problem area, because from my experience (though it's limited to Utrecht and the eastern regions - don't know about the "Randstad") it's never been that big a deal. In most towns it's not even on the political agenda as far as I'm aware. My friends in Amsterdam say the same thing: at least among the natives there aren't many problems. It's usually the really young kids (for whom it's illegal anyway) and tourists that get into the most trouble. Also, consider that making it illegal would only fuel drug trafficking, making the problem worse instead of better. I currently live in Almere, you know, the town where people vanish all the time, and get stabbed for no reason. I don't knnow quite how I still live, but yah, it sucks here.
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Post by riddler on Apr 6, 2010 19:08:49 GMT -5
Legalizing it would make it a whole lot safer, though. Plus, it's less time for the police force to be wasting. You sir, coulcn't be more wrong. If people can get it at a certain age, they'll sell it on. If they can buy it without the risk of getting caught, people will throw their lives away just to get it. It'll be epic fail.
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Post by Lex on Apr 6, 2010 19:16:08 GMT -5
Legalizing it would make it a whole lot safer, though. Plus, it's less time for the police force to be wasting. You sir, coulcn't be more wrong. If people can get it at a certain age, they'll sell it on. If they can buy it without the risk of getting caught, people will throw their lives away just to get it. It'll be epic fail. And that doesn't happen with tobacco and alcohol in Canada and the United States already? How about we make those illegal, too?
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