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Post by mashuga31 on Apr 17, 2010 22:46:37 GMT -5
Ok so Obama approved a thing that is going to launch a crew into space to land on an asteroid about 15 years away to slighlty alter it's course as a test mission in case they actually need to do this to save the planet one day. it's going to cost a lot of money and is going to take FOREVER, and STILL cost money after they've launched and obama's been long out of term.
Now, before we all go saying oh wow that's cool a SPACE MISSION!!
Who thinks this is a stupid idea? *raises hand*
Go on, talk, discuss, allow your Obama anger to be freed or doused.
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Post by Cortney on Apr 17, 2010 22:52:09 GMT -5
Um. While it sucks that this takes such a long time and so much money, it could save the world one day.
Look at the moon, it's pretty beat up. The dinosaurs were probably killed by a giant asteroid slamming into earth. I think being able to change the course of an asteroid heading toward our darling planet would be a useful ability.
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Post by Joey on Apr 17, 2010 22:54:55 GMT -5
Really, I don't think its crazy or stupid.
50 years ago Roosevelt challenged us to go to the moon. People thought it would be stupid and impossible. It was going to take tons of money and would still cost money after he was gone.
41 years ago Apollo 11 landed on the moon. It has become one of the most important and significant acchievements in history.
Who knows whats going to be an important thing in history? We have no place to judge whats crazy when it comes to space. We can only think bigger and better. I like that he is making this plan.
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Post by jmejia1187 on Apr 17, 2010 23:14:31 GMT -5
I think that instead of recording the whole thing and having it transmitted to earth via video camera...
They should just record it on a regular hd hand held cam, and save a lot of money. They will then view the video on VLC media player, which is free, when they get back to earth... LOL
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Post by Joey on Apr 17, 2010 23:26:16 GMT -5
. The dinosaurs were probably killed by a giant asteroid slamming into earth. Acctually they are almost as sure as you can be. Nothing is ever proven in science, but it is almost assured. It hit part of what is now Mexico. |
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Post by stephen5000 on Apr 18, 2010 0:12:58 GMT -5
It would be good just to see that people can go out that far and be able to return. That would be handy if we ever want to colonize space. The farthest people have ever been is the moon (how pathetic).
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Post by krzych32 on Apr 18, 2010 0:50:28 GMT -5
jmejia1187@, regular cam would never work in space.
mashuga31@, could you give a link to your source, the whole story seems a bit 2 sci-fi to me, and I mean under many different ways, I'm not going to write them out as I don't want to end up writing an essay.
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Post by newschooled on Apr 18, 2010 0:57:56 GMT -5
So it's pretty much gonna be the movie "armageddon", but with real astronauts instead of bruce willis and ben affleck? Well, it saved the planet in the movie, so I'm all in.
I can just imagine this happening years down the road:
"Hey Paul, did you hear about about the asteroid headed straight toward the planet? They say it's gonna kill all life on earth. Seems like we should have looked into that, huh?"
"Yeah, but look at all the money we saved by not doing anything about it, which we can enjoy when we're a giant crater...Right?"
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Post by Deleted on Apr 18, 2010 2:21:22 GMT -5
agrees with newschooled
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Post by kernoll on Apr 18, 2010 3:19:14 GMT -5
Im just happy that Czech republic dont have enough money to waste like this...
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Post by Jake on Apr 18, 2010 5:52:07 GMT -5
The dinosaurs were probably killed by a giant asteroid slamming into earth. Officially, as of a month ago, it was confirmed by scientists that it was an asteroid. And to the actual decision Obama made - I guess I need to know exactly how much money he spent and also exactly how much the risks of the asteroid are. But I guess if there's any risk of all to humans - then it's worth spending the money on. |
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Post by hey light on Apr 18, 2010 7:29:38 GMT -5
Well, this is actually for Obama's new space plan. He's going to increase NASA's buget by 6 billion, develop a new heavy-lift rocket, keep the orion capsule going (mainly as an escape vehicle for the space station , but it will later be adapted for deep space), turn LEO over to private companies (because we've pretty much got getting to and living in LEO down pat, and NASA should be leading the way into deep space), all of which I agree with, but we're not going back to moon in this new plan. Going back to the moon will give us the experience needed to go on to mars and beyond. But landing on an asteroid is much harder. Asteriods aren't as close, obvioulsly. Orbital manovering would be more complex.
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Post by RabbitWho on Apr 18, 2010 9:12:51 GMT -5
What if in changing its trajectory we unknowingly steer it into a far out alien planet and wipe out an entire world? Or what if we just kill hundreds of thousands of them and they get mad and come looking for us?
15 years is a really long time and i'd be very surprised if everyone came back alive. Are you sure they said crew? Why not do it remotely or get a computer program to take care of it? And how are they going to communicate with people 15 years away?
Anyway Im glad they're going into space again because it's because of NASA that we have the internet and many other brilliant things and investing in it always has loads of peripheral advantages and beats the hell out of buying tanks.
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Post by Cortney on Apr 18, 2010 9:29:48 GMT -5
What if in changing its trajectory we unknowingly steer it into a far out alien planet and wipe out an entire world? Or what if we just kill hundreds of thousands of them and they get mad and come looking for us? What if an asteroid comes toward Earth and we can't change its course so we all die? Plus, the odds of what you said happening are amazingly slim. While it's very probable that there is life on other planets, we can't say for sure if they are microorganisms or full-fledged "animals," let alone if they have mastered space travel. I think we're safe. ;P @your second point, "getting a computer program to do it" isn't a piece of cake. It will be hard with actual human beings there. They may have to make sudden changes in methods, and you can't just tell a computer to do something it's not programmed to do. Your responses are very creative but I have to disagree with them. Ya. |
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Post by Jake on Apr 18, 2010 10:52:28 GMT -5
What if in changing its trajectory we unknowingly steer it into a far out alien planet and wipe out an entire world? Or what if we just kill hundreds of thousands of them and they get mad and come looking for us? Let's forget the chances of there being alien life and the chances of them being where we redirect the asteroid - what about the chances of them being at the relatively short period of development when they are advanced enough to be able to find us, but not advanced enough to all leave the planet! But here's a question...what about if this astrolabe in question was redirected by another alien planet it was going to hit!  |
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Post by RabbitWho on Apr 18, 2010 11:47:35 GMT -5
What if in changing its trajectory we unknowingly steer it into a far out alien planet and wipe out an entire world? Or what if we just kill hundreds of thousands of them and they get mad and come looking for us? What if an asteroid comes toward Earth and we can't change its course so we all die? Plus, the odds of what you said happening are amazingly slim. While it's very probable that there is life on other planets, we can't say for sure if they are microorganisms or full-fledged "animals," let alone if they have mastered space travel. I think we're safe. ;P It was a joke. my only point... according to a ted video about space tourism at the moment there's about a 10 - 15% mortality rate for people that go into space. Most of these people don't go very far out into space and don't go on trips that last very long. How likely do you think it is that people are going to come back after 15 years and hundreds of thousands of miles? It would be a death sentence. There are millions of things that can go wrong and not even a proper way of testing everything on earth. If programing or remote control or some mixture of both isn't possible then I don't think it should be done because i don't want it on my conscience that a few astronauts died on the off chance that they might maybe be helping us in the future with something that might maybe happen. How can we ask people to do that? Maybe in 15 years AI will be better and ships will be faster and we can do it then and it will only take 6 years for a programmed robotic ship to get out there. |
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Post by Cortney on Apr 18, 2010 12:01:34 GMT -5
Astronauts can say no. If they choose to go out there and they die, I won't feel bad. They know a lot more about the risks they are taking than you do, so I don't think we should use the excuse "oh, they might die" as a reason to not do it.
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Post by hey light on Apr 18, 2010 12:10:01 GMT -5
What if in changing its trajectory we unknowingly steer it into a far out alien planet and wipe out an entire world? Or what if we just kill hundreds of thousands of them and they get mad and come looking for us? 15 years is a really long time and i'd be very surprised if everyone came back alive. Are you sure they said crew? Why not do it remotely or get a computer program to take care of it? And how are they going to communicate with people 15 years away? Anyway Im glad they're going into space again because it's because of NASA that we have the internet and many other brilliant things and investing in it always has loads of peripheral advantages and beats the hell out of buying tanks. We're not trying to change it's trajectory. The reason we're going there is to learn stuff for goinhg to mars and beyond. |
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Post by RandiKthxxx on Apr 18, 2010 12:10:58 GMT -5
Astronauts can say no. If they choose to go out there and they die, I won't feel bad. They know a lot more about the risks they are taking than you do, so I don't think we should use the excuse "oh, they might die" as a reason to not do it. You'd feel a little bad. You're still human :] Maybe not "OMG" bad, but like "Wow that sucks" bad. |
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Post by andrea1994barney on Apr 18, 2010 12:16:17 GMT -5
Well, this is actually for Obama's new space plan. He's going to increase NASA's buget by 6 billion, develop a new heavy-lift rocket, keep the orion capsule going (mainly as an escape vehicle for the space station , but it will later be adapted for deep space), turn LEO over to private companies (because we've pretty much got getting to and living in LEO down pat, and NASA should be leading the way into deep space), all of which I agree with, but we're not going back to moon in this new plan. Going back to the moon will give us the experience needed to go on to mars and beyond. But landing on an asteroid is much harder. Asteriods aren't as close, obvioulsly. Orbital manovering would be more complex. This has been planned for many years...not Obama, have you ever heard of mars 2020? |
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