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Post by Cortney on May 30, 2010 20:46:58 GMT -5
Okay, bomb's fap-based attempt at trolling got me thinking: why is it that society views masturbation the way it does?
Of course there are the religious reasons, 'tis better for your seed to fall in the belly of a whore than on the ground, all that jazz. However, talking about masturbation is basically taboo, and many people deny doing it.
I can understand that it'd be uncomfortable to discuss, but I want to know why that is so. I personally think we are just raised to hide our connection to nature - pooping, peeing, masturbating, sex - because humans tend to feel a need to raise themselves above animals.
Sorry for making a blanket statement here, but most people do masturbate. In a way, it's like scratching an itch. You get a sexual urge, you satisfy it, life's good. I don't think it should be frowned upon like it is.
So yeah DISCUSS, and try to keep it mature...xD
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Post by Insane_Zang on May 30, 2010 20:51:29 GMT -5
This post is for people so look and go "GOOD LORD! ZANG POSTED IN THE MASTURBATION THREAD!"
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Post by thekmatheory on May 30, 2010 21:06:40 GMT -5
This post is for people so look and go "GOOD LORD! ZANG POSTED IN THE MASTURBATION THREAD!" ....I laughed. I've known plenty of people who don't deny that they masturbate, but they were all the kind of guys who want girls to have sex with them, so admitting that they masturbate shows that they really like sex. Which I think might be why people DON'T like to admit that they masturbate, because if they do, then it looks like they really like sex...which they assume makes them a slut/whore/whatever.
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Post by Lex on May 30, 2010 21:09:53 GMT -5
Basically everyone masturbates, or have done it in the past. Whether or not they've masturbated to orgasm or not is a different story. I can't understand what's so taboo about it. It seems more of a taboo than peeing and pooping (which are also things that EVERYONE does).
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Post by Nakor on May 30, 2010 21:12:16 GMT -5
Most people don't deny it in my experience either. They simply don't like talking about it, at least not in person. People prefer to keep their sexuality in general private. So I don't think it's that it's uncomfortable to discuss masturbation so much as it's uncomfortable to discuss sexuality in general, as it's considered a private part of our lives.
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Post by Lex on May 30, 2010 21:14:48 GMT -5
I'm just a little disappointed that society looks at it as a "bad thing".
But now that this topic sprung up, I suddenly remember a friend of mine who was very militant about telling people that masturbating is wrong (for religious reasons).
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Post by zAkAtAk on May 30, 2010 23:30:41 GMT -5
I masturbate. Most teenagers masturbate. It's a great stress reliever and sexual release without any side effects (no stds, no babies, no emotional attachments).
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Post by bombmaniac on May 30, 2010 23:53:19 GMT -5
'tis better for your seed to fall in the belly of a whore than on the ground, whoever honestly thinks that is a moron...from a religious standpoint that is ludicrous
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Post by Nakor on May 31, 2010 0:21:37 GMT -5
And yet many, many, many people think it. Enough that they've managed to hold back the use of contraception across Africa, causing the spread of AIDS there.
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Post by krzych32 on May 31, 2010 0:59:51 GMT -5
Nakor, really, all that rape going on around Africa is coursed by christians? So the people are not christian when it comes to having sex left and right but they are christian when it comes down go putting a condom? Not everything bad has its roots in religion you know......
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Post by Nakor on May 31, 2010 1:25:37 GMT -5
No, and I never claimed the rape was being caused by Christians. That's just a straw man argument. I said that the Catholics were preventing the use of condoms in Africa, which I can cite. Don't put words in my mouth. Yes, rape is a problem over there. That does not forgive the fact that the church is making a great effort to warn Africans off of using condoms, which is only further worsening the spread of AIDS. And the Catholic condemnation of condoms IS clearly and unequivocally the fault of the people condemning them.
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Post by newschooled on May 31, 2010 1:29:49 GMT -5
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Post by zAkAtAk on May 31, 2010 2:35:01 GMT -5
someone needs to stop jacking off big foot
with glue
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Post by bombmaniac on May 31, 2010 3:32:37 GMT -5
the claim is idiotic. from a religious standpoint, masturbation is forbidden because yes, it is a waste, and more it is meaningless pleasure, and religion tries to guide people off meaningless pleasure. however (and all you atheists out there please remember that i am speaking from a religious standpoint here) having sex with a hooker is definitely worse than masturbation. basic scripture 101. so from a religious standpoint, the claim is ridiculous. as for condoms...the pope is a moron for doing that. people are supposed to die and bring dying children into the world so as not to waste sperm...someone has to give him a bible lesson there. he is clearly wrong.
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Post by UnfairBear on May 31, 2010 5:54:50 GMT -5
In my experience it's always been girls who deny masturbating. Only one guy I've known has denied it and he was a pathalogical liar (I really know how to pick 'em). But I dunno, maybe girls don't want to admit it cause it's seen as a manleh thing to do or something?
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Post by AkeR on May 31, 2010 7:41:03 GMT -5
In my experience it's always been girls who deny masturbating. Only one guy I've known has denied it and he was a pathalogical liar (I really know how to pick 'em). But I dunno, maybe girls don't want to admit it cause it's seen as a manleh thing to do or something? well i can tell you now that guys wank (excuse my... uh... french?) more openly than girls. i had a very strange conversation with my gf the other day about this and she told me that about 2 of her friends masturbate, where as i can say there is probably about 2 of my friends that DONT masturbate. imo: -it is natural -it is normal -there is nothing wrong with it just keep it to yourselves, my friend was talking to me on fb the other day and he randomly asked if id fapped that day... i said no because id been with my girlfriend ( ) but he was like "really? ive fapped like 5 times today!" i think this kind of... activity... is a little extreme and i would not recommend telling people this as i now think he is a little strange and very sad.
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Post by RandiKthxxx on May 31, 2010 8:19:24 GMT -5
Everything on this forum comes back to religion
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Post by Cortney on May 31, 2010 11:00:56 GMT -5
Everything on this forum comes back to religion I've noticed this trend as well...I think because everything we debate comes down to religious reasoning vs everybody else. Don't know why, it just does. xD I think girls are more worried to talk about masturbating because, to most people, it seems like admitting that you're either a slut or a nympho. Guys are fine with this, girls are afraid of it (blanket statement, but oh well).
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Post by Ferrrrrre on May 31, 2010 11:30:03 GMT -5
I also agree, why make such a big drama of it? It's not like it affects you if one masturbate/has sex?! I do begin to see that more and more people begin to realise that we have some pretty stupid taboos and that should be taboo.. I hope taboo will cease to exist soon! Everything on this forum comes back to religion I think girls are more worried to talk about masturbating because, to most people, it seems like admitting that you're either a slut or a nympho. Guys are fine with this, girls are afraid of it (blanket statement, but oh well). This reminds me of something that occured last year; some girls of my class went up to every guy asking if they masturbate and almost every single guy said yes.. and they were like; "ewww..". Then I asked them why they were asking anyway if they responded like that on a positive answer and still don't have an answer on my question xD
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Post by KipEnyan on May 31, 2010 11:56:27 GMT -5
Forgive the bias, but I feel like a lot of arguments start to boil down to religious ones because religion often stands by the banners of "definite morality" and "faith", which can often intensely contradict the camps of "logic" and "reason", which are the basis for any sound debate. But I digress.
Yeah, most girls don't own up to masturbating for the same reason that they don't post bulletin boards of every person they've ever fooled around with. There's a lot of social stigma between being sexually active in any way, and being a slut; as it pertains to girls, anyways. I didn't make, nor do I enforce the stigma, but it is invariably there as far as I can tell. At least through young adulthood. It seems the stigma fades somewhat as people get into 30's+.
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