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Post by jaw on Jun 3, 2010 21:06:17 GMT -5
Alright thanks
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Post by Deleted on Jun 10, 2010 3:53:17 GMT -5
A nuclear weapon should do it. I mean that's what they do in the movies, right? They actually considered blowing it up, like I believe has happened in Russia, but because it's underwater they can't. Well actually the ones in Russia were underwater as well, so that shouldn't be the problem. The thing is, one out of of the 5 times the Russians did it, it went terribly wrong, causing a lot of radiation polution. Also, they don't blow it up. They blow up a piece of ocean floor, which makes the ocean floor where the pipe is to contract, shutting off the pipe. Also, read this: A revealing report from Assosciated Press, which went filming with a couple of divers in the Gulf to see what the oil's effect on the water is. This is what the journalist had to say afterwards: "I jump off the boat into the thickest patch of red oil I've ever seen. I open my eyes and realize my mask is already smeared. I can't see anything and we're just five seconds into the dive. Dropping beneath the surface the only thing I see is oil. To the left, right, up and down - it sits on top of the water in giant pools, and hangs suspended fifteen feet beneath the surface in softball sized blobs. There is nothing alive under the slick, although I see a dead jellyfish and handful of small bait fish. I'm alone because the other divers with me wouldn't get in the water without Hazmat suits on, and with my mask oiled over and the water already dark, I don't dive deep. I also want to get out of the water. Badly. I make my way to the back of the boat unaware of just how covered I am. To be honest, I look a little like one of those poor pelicans we've all been seeing for days now. The oil is so thick and sticky, almost like a cake batter. It does not wipe off. You have to scrape it off, in layers until you finally get close to the skin. Then you pour on some Dawn dishwashing soap and scrub. I think to myself: No fish, no bird, no turtle would ever be able to clean this off of themselves. If any animal, any were to end up in this same puddle there is almost no way they could escape. The cleaning process goes on for half an hour before the captain will even think about letting me back in the boat. I'm clean, so I stand up. But the bottoms of my feet still had oil, and I fall back in the water. The process starts again. Another 30 minutes of cleaning and finally I'm ready to step into the boat." And this:
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Post by Ricky on Jun 10, 2010 8:07:23 GMT -5
People in this thread have talked about the nuclear alternative, but don't seem to really understand how it works. If you explode a nuclear bomb underwater what happens is that it crystallizes the ground closing the leak instantaneously. This happens since the sand turns to glass due to the large amount of heat and the speed of this phenomenon.
The problems is that the radiation creates many obvious problems such as the death of marine life, and no one is really sure of the long term consequences since it hasn't been that long since Russia used those 5 bombs. Also this doesn't clean all the oil that has already been spilled which seems almost impossible to remove, or that which has already reached the sea shore.
I think the govn't of Mexico should sue the company for negligence, it only seems fare, and if this disaster isn't big enough for people to realize we need to start looking elsewhere for alternative fuels such as water (we should be able to use the hydrogen), then we are screwed..
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Post by Deleted on Jun 10, 2010 9:47:21 GMT -5
People in this thread have talked about the nuclear alternative, but don't seem to really understand how it works. If you explode a nuclear bomb underwater what happens is that it crystallizes the ground closing the leak instantaneously. This happens since the sand turns to glass due to the large amount of heat and the speed of this phenomenon. The problems is that the radiation creates many obvious problems such as the death of marine life, and no one is really sure of the long term consequences since it hasn't been that long since Russia used those 5 bombs. Also this doesn't clean all the oil that has already been spilled which seems almost impossible to remove, or that which has already reached the sea shore. I think the govn't of Mexico should sue the company for negligence, it only seems fare, and if this disaster isn't big enough for people to realize we need to start looking elsewhere for alternative fuels such as water (we should be able to use the hydrogen), then we are screwed.. I think you mean the government of the USA. They are the ones who have oily beaches now..
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Post by Jake on Jun 10, 2010 12:14:58 GMT -5
I thought this might interest you: It's the size of the oil spill to scale, if it were to have started at my house in South West England.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 10, 2010 13:53:00 GMT -5
I thought this might interest you: It's the size of the oil spill to scale, if it were to have started at my house in South West England. yeah, I tried that as well. I live, well if you look at the map, bottom right you see Dunkerque. I live 80 km or so to the east along the coast. It spread from Northern France, over Flanders, Holland and then all the way to England, covering London as well.
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Post by Benyamin on Jun 10, 2010 20:21:37 GMT -5
I live in fricking houston
this is actually scary
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Post by RandiKthxxx on Jun 11, 2010 16:30:14 GMT -5
If this thing reaches my beach I'm gonna be so pissed
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Post by zAkAtAk on Jun 12, 2010 0:57:13 GMT -5
If this thing reaches my beach I'm gonna be so pissed Yes because you being able to frolic in the water would cause much more hatred than if you lived in Louisiana and you were a fisherman that was completely dependent on the gulf's ecosystem.
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Post by ItsCarterYo on Jun 12, 2010 20:07:27 GMT -5
idea by Zang
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Post by RandiKthxxx on Jun 12, 2010 20:38:15 GMT -5
If this thing reaches my beach I'm gonna be so pissed Yes because you being able to frolic in the water would cause much more hatred than if you lived in Louisiana and you were a fisherman that was completely dependent on the gulf's ecosystem. First of all, I'm not saying that their situation doesn't suck. Secondly, my area can't afford any more destruction either. Do you know how much SHIRT is in the the Elizabeth River/Chesapeake Bay and how hard I've been working to help clean it up? If this mess reaches my area it's just gonna put a damper on all of our efforts AND crush my summer. So chill, kthx.
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Post by Ricky on Jun 15, 2010 19:29:33 GMT -5
Did you guys hear Obama addressing the country today? he is apparently going to meet with the head of BP, and several changes are going to take place towards greener sources of energy.
I'm just glad this didn't happen when Bush was around...
@crracktheskye: I did mean Mexico, it started in the golf of Mexico most of the spill will spread and reach the east of the US due to sea currents.
@randi: way to be selfish... I think that the survival of those who worked in the area and being unable to provide for their family is more important than your beach...
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Post by RandiKthxxx on Jun 15, 2010 20:59:54 GMT -5
Did you miss my last post?
And besides I still have the right to be angry if it directly affects me. Who says they're the only ones who get to be pissed off?
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Post by Ricky on Jun 15, 2010 21:02:10 GMT -5
Nobody, but I do say that they have more right and you probably shouldn't be whining when the effects are much more than bearable in your case...
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Post by RandiKthxxx on Jun 15, 2010 21:07:01 GMT -5
Not once did I say that my situation would be worse. If it hit your area, you'd be angry too. And if it hits my area I will be pissed. There's nothing wrong with that. I never said that my beach was more important than their wellbeing, but I'd be crushed to know that years of cleanup would be wasted because of BP's stupid mistake.
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Post by Ricky on Jun 15, 2010 21:11:28 GMT -5
No, you didn't say that your situation was worse, thats true... but you did say "If this thing reaches my beach I'm gonna be so pissed" which in turn ignores the others. Which seems like a cry of self pity as if saying that it might be the worse of the outcomes from the disaster.
In conclusion, it probably isn't what you said exactly, but that you said it in the worse of times. Specially, disregarding the memories of those who died due to it.
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Post by RandiKthxxx on Jun 15, 2010 21:14:02 GMT -5
But everyone else poking fun at it with images is okay?
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Post by Ricky on Jun 15, 2010 21:16:15 GMT -5
but yours was being serious, theirs wasn't...
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Post by RandiKthxxx on Jun 15, 2010 21:17:43 GMT -5
So as long as I'm not being serious when I'm " disregarding the memories of those who died due to it", then it's okay? Gotcha.
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Post by Ricky on Jun 15, 2010 23:49:33 GMT -5
Well not exactly... Ok, in that sense I suppose your point has merit, I'm sorry.
Still you have to admit that your post did contrast in the sense of the conversation, how about we move on from the topic and follow on something else.
Like nuking that oil spill ;D
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