|
Post by Ricky on Dec 6, 2010 21:56:55 GMT -5
In case of a real life Zombie Apocalypse (by the way I mean the kind that has zombies moving and eating even after you cut limbs, and have been without food for ages) So, this kind: Do you think the human race stands a chance, or would this be a minor thing that would be resolved easily by the authorities/army? ^ and even if you don't believe it would escalate to much answer the following:what would happen if you are one of the last people alive. What would you do if you are alone? or in a small group? So in other words my questions are: - can the army deal with it?
- What would you do alone in a world overran by zombies?
- in a small group?
- Initial moves, weapons, locations and long term plans?
[/b] [/li][/ul] In this i'm looking for imagination, and I want to see how well thought out your answers are. ;D
|
|
|
Post by Jackson on Dec 6, 2010 21:59:59 GMT -5
|
|
|
Post by Ricky on Dec 6, 2010 22:04:47 GMT -5
Cmon, lets pretend that doesn't count. Lets say its well into the outbreak and movie rules are at place... So, that means movie science and quoting them is fine (as long as no one says "I go and find out that i'm the cure, or find a magical way to deal it it" its alright)
|
|
Flappy
Star
Grrr! But not really....
Posts: 577
|
Post by Flappy on Dec 6, 2010 22:45:15 GMT -5
Depending on the type of zombie, I don't think it would be much of a problem. If they were standard, moaning, mindless, biting, but not really conscious of what they're doing, zombies. I think they could be easily killed. As described in the article (and this point is valid), biting is a really crappy way to spread "disease".
If they were the infected, fast-running, adrenaline-crazed, devour-machines, then I think we wouldn't stand a chance, but eventually, we'd all be them, so it really wouldn't be a big problem anymore.
I do think the article posted by Jackson is the best answer, though. (I was actually gonna post that...)
|
|
|
Post by Ryan on Dec 6, 2010 23:06:47 GMT -5
Well, Jackson's right on this one...zombies are something that would naturally die off very quickly. Another thing about zombies, they enjoy devouring flesh - so it seems as though they would just as quickly devour their own flesh or the flesh of other zombies, dealing with themselves.
BUT....
If we go by the movie-esque zombie, I doubt anyone here would survive. Most people who are remotely exposed to the internet actually lack many basic survival skills including foraging, makeshift shelter making, hunting, and all around the physical endurance required to live without any catering to personal needs. While there would be abandoned grocery stores for a time, without the mainflow economy pumping out new products, most of the stuff in the stores would have expired or gone bad, so you're really looking at living primarily off of canned goods when it comes to 'foraging' a grocery store. Have you eaten raw canned beans? (Yummm....).
Along with lacking survival skills - most people have never shot a gun, let alone something, let alone something that looks human, let alone something attacking you. It's not easy. Granted, with practice - it would get easier, but until you're a practiced zombie killer - you really can't say you'd just blow their brains out (or lack of brains out) because chances are in that crucial second you would not be able to pull the trigger. To those of you that have shot a weapon before, and have shot something other than a target with that weapon before, it would still be psychologically difficult to shoot a zombie, until you're practiced at it. What this means is that if people were alone in this zombie appocalypse and had not practiced shooting zombies, their rate of survival is significantly decreased. This chance would increase with groups as the group can provide protection, encouragement, and meat shields to help you practice your zombie shooting skills.
Another problem that would be faced is the amount of ammo in the world. It will eventually run out. I think this reason is really self explanatory, but I shall further my point. Say you're in a small group consisting of 5 primary members. Chances are - you're not the only group. Based on the population density of the world, and available guns and experienced, most urban populations would be converted to zombieism quickly, while those who hunt and farm for a living would be more likely to survive. This would lead me to assume that per city there may be between 5-20 groups of 5 people that may survive, and in rural towns there would roughly be about the same (though comparatively to original population this is a much higher percentage). Again - this population statistic is assuming that we have movie-esque zombies, because as soon as a few zombies actually popped up in a real town, the cops would come in, shoot them dead, end of story.
So now we have an average of 50 people per city in the United States - I''m not going to bother considering other countries for the moment (sorry all of you people not in the US). Due to low accuracy amongst most weapons and low accuracy due to inexperience, I would estimate that 1 in 5 bullets hits a zombie, 1/20 kills a zombie. So that means that in order to kill an equal amount of zombie, each town would have to put out 1000 bullets. But, humans would in this movie-esque world only take up a very minor percent of the population, less than 1% most likely, but for numbers sake we shall assume, exactly 1%. That means that in order to overcome the likely horde of zombies that would seek you out, you, your group, and all of the groups in your town would need 99,000 bullets. Likely, you would need more than that, eventually other groups will fall, and you'll have to travel to other towns, which means that you'll have a new horde of zombies. As you can see - the world will quickly run out of bullets. Also keep in mind, you won't be able to carry the ammo store on your back, you'll be very limited in how much ammo you can have with you at any time - which continues to decrease your chance of survival.
Also - if the virus can be spread from biting (which in movies - is how zombieism spreads), then it sure as hell can be spread by sharing blood or contact with blood to an open wound. So if a zombie were to scratch you and you were to shoot it, and the blood spray from the zombie got in the wound - you're history. What this implies is that all zombie kills must be performed at a minimum safe distance or they can be potentially fatal to the shooter. Also decreasing chance of survival.
Another question to ask is, what would the point be? Soon in a world overrun with zombies, your ultimate goal in life would be survival. Sure there might be moments where you could have fun, but would you really enjoy your life? If you're not going to enjoy life, then what is the purpose of living? Can you really be happy in a world where you always have to worry about the next zombie attack? I would find that life would become quickly meaningless with the exception of to preserve the species - but due to the impossibility of defeating the zombies (which seems to be an impossibility), wouldn't we evolutionarily die out anyway? I would say at that point, kill yourself and let the zombies eat cake.
But really - the zombies would be eradicated before they were a threat - cops come in, shoot them dead - tadah end of story.
|
|
|
Post by Kevak on Dec 7, 2010 11:26:46 GMT -5
DANG! I was just about to link that! I don't know. I don't think it would be that hard to survive. All you need: -Shotgun -Wits -Baddassery -Awesome one liners ( for example "Eat this" or "You want brains? Here's yours!")
|
|
|
Post by brumagem on Dec 10, 2010 2:08:25 GMT -5
Well, I think a zombie outbreak would be a lot more manageable than any other outbreak. Symptoms of zombification are pretty obvious (craving for raw flesh, loss of sanity, rotting) compared to Bird-Flu or what have you.
That aside...
Alone, I'd pack a scout guide, first aid manual, warm clothing, umbrella, two pairs of pliers, water bottle, rope, lighter, and a good utility knife (all within just steps of my bed, taking about three minutes) and just keep on the run until I find somebody useful. Stay on high, flat ground because zombies are lazy and look for low-ground food first. Flat so I have a much clearer knowledge of my situation at any given time.
As for groups, first things first: find a doctor. More people equals more injuries equals more dead weight, and I'm too much of a goody-goody to leave anyone behind. Next, we find a place that is difficult to access and near important resources like fresh water and renewable food. A French sewer would do nicely, but those are in short supply. Even without a food source, we could probably send out stealthy scavengers for both food and useful supplies.
My weapon of choice would be a quarter-staff, so any long, sizable object *lol* would do. No long-term plans. In these situations you have to think on your feet and just deal with it.
|
|
|
Post by Rogers91 on Dec 10, 2010 12:07:58 GMT -5
well as many have pointed out zombie invasion on any scale would fail.... the big fun thing is even if one entire country fell there are plenty of others willing to quarantine that area...
so lets assume that there was a zombie out break that was too much for a nation to bare.
lets go with the US... first off where it starts is where it will stay for the most part..
if it starts in the east coast then well it wont make it to the west coast and vice versa. there are too many obsticles and allot of distance and the US could easily border off half the nation..
now other nations like mexico would get a good laugh too cause while the us has been building a border fence to keep them out. the mexicans can then us that same fence to keep american zombies away... canada has plenty of protection due to the naturaly dificult terrain and climate they have.. then the rest of the world would be fine simply due to the ocean.
so while yes maybe you could get a country or a continent zombified the chances of the world being taken out is nearly impossible...
so lets say i happen to be in the small area that a zombie attack seems to be located... first off it would suck the second thing is all you really have to do is stay indoors.. as long as you dont go outside there wont be a major issue. the military would clean up the threat and life would go on...
so i guess i would be right here talking about the dumb people being eaten just outside my window and the redneck brigade of friends that would be cleaning up the mess.. then they would probably charge for there services and then i would get the neighbor hood kids trying to get money out of the clean up situation...
ohh well it would be like a shity snow storm...
|
|
|
Post by Ryan on Dec 10, 2010 12:44:09 GMT -5
My weapon of choice would be a quarter-staff, so any long, sizable object *lol* would do. No long-term plans. In these situations you have to think on your feet and just deal with it. If this is your weapon of choice - you'll become a zombie very quickly. A quarterstaff requires that you be within 5 feet of a zombie - which is bad news. I would suggest that for the zombie apocalypse you use a weapon that is less cool looking and more practical
|
|
Xanast
Star
Just keep staring...
Posts: 598
|
Post by Xanast on Dec 10, 2010 14:38:51 GMT -5
The best choice would be a small group, with silenced weapons or crossbows, in a tall structure (like a skyscraper) that has been cleared of zombies, or a tree in the woods, where there would be deer a rabbits for food. I'm an expert in this field, and I'm currently writing a book.
|
|
|
Post by Raydawn on Dec 10, 2010 16:55:17 GMT -5
what i could never see is how in the movies, the us military has fallen to a horde of slow moving, witless zombies who'd just hurl themselves slowly at a line of tanks, rifles, grenades, etc.
even if some place gets taken, you could isolate that area, call in the airforce and drop bombs, or whatever.
most movies just start off as "lol the army has died only the protagonist, the token african american/asian/latino and a bunch of filler characters that will be killed off pretty soon are alive"
|
|
|
Post by odstwreckage on Dec 10, 2010 17:05:14 GMT -5
if the army got demolished by retard zombies i would point and laugh while hiding on my roof for them all to get stiff like all DEAD things do... 2 weeks tops... the end
but always have a back up plan... so if they dont mostly go away... staying in a building would be bad... one or two zombies is easy but as seen in dead rising (the hundreds right at the front door)... you would have to avoid malls and keep traveling during the day/ sleeping in a tree with long banches at night... my more exiting solution is done now
|
|
|
Post by krzych32 on Dec 10, 2010 17:31:29 GMT -5
one of the leaks in wikileaks is actually a plan for a zombie outbreak
|
|
Xanast
Star
Just keep staring...
Posts: 598
|
Post by Xanast on Dec 10, 2010 17:52:11 GMT -5
if the army got demolished by retard zombies i would point and laugh while hiding on my roof for them all to get stiff like all DEAD things do... 2 weeks tops... the end but always have a back up plan... so if they dont mostly go away... staying in a building would be bad... one or two zombies is easy but as seen in dead rising (the hundreds right at the front door)... you would have to avoid malls and keep traveling during the day/ sleeping in a tree with long banches at night... my more exiting solution is done now They can't get stiff, like if they had rigor mortis, because they continue moving. And they army would fall because they're dumb enough to try and treat the wounded, and they bite the doctors, which bite nurses (noez!!!! save da nurses!!!!!) and the nurses bite the cook, and when they kill the cook, some of him gets in the food, which the soldiers eat, and they become zombies. Plus, you need to reload a gun, and also, a (moving) head is very hard to hit with an automatic weapon.
|
|
|
Post by brumagem on Dec 10, 2010 21:20:18 GMT -5
If this is your weapon of choice - you'll become a zombie very quickly. A quarterstaff requires that you be within 5 feet of a zombie - which is bad news. I would suggest that for the zombie apocalypse you use a weapon that is less cool looking and more practical. I could say the same to you. You'll sing a different song when you run out of bullets/shells. I honestly don't see the problem with melee zombie-fighting. Me=armed, them=unarmed, slow, and stupid so unless the small confined space--I wouldn't be caught dead there anyway--is overrun I'm going to stay unharmed. Even with the splatter+open wound problem you mentioned, it's pretty easy to protect yourself from minor wounds and cover up your mouth and eyes.
|
|
|
Post by Ryan on Dec 10, 2010 21:31:51 GMT -5
Perhaps you should keep a knife or machete handy? But really you don't want to be close to zombies...
|
|
|
Post by brumagem on Dec 10, 2010 23:48:54 GMT -5
No, you don't want to be close to zombies, for fear of infection/consumption, but I can't think of any practical ranged weapons that don't require expendable ammo. I chose quarter-staff because it increases your reach and is pretty versatile. Don't get me wrong, a decent pistol would get it's share of use, but that's what everyone's going to go for. Even if you find a good stash of ammo, how much is practical to carry with you, along with all your other gear and how long would that last? How long will you be able to maintain your weapon before it's no longer usable?
|
|
|
Post by Freddy on Dec 11, 2010 0:52:15 GMT -5
Just nuke them. Problem solved.
|
|
|
Post by Ryan on Dec 11, 2010 1:47:42 GMT -5
Gear? I'm sorry - Canned food and ammo is all you need to survive a zombie apocalypse, that and good wit. If you run fast, and are subtle enough, you hardly need to carry more than a few clips at a time to survive. In order to survive to the end, you just need to outlast the zombies in food supply, which travelling from grocery store to grocery store should suffice - there's enough canned goods in the US to feed the world 100 times over, and let's face it - zombies aren't gonna open the cans. Once their food source runs out they die.
Of course everyone's gonna go for a gun, but it's foolish to not have one, if you rely on a quarterstaff then you'll quickly find that you'll have wished you killed those 30 zombies while they were 20 yards away rather then when they're 10 feet from you.
|
|
Xanast
Star
Just keep staring...
Posts: 598
|
Post by Xanast on Dec 11, 2010 11:48:24 GMT -5
Best bet for zombie survival is a Shaolin Spade
|
|