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Post by TheIslander on Apr 23, 2010 13:48:59 GMT -5
TheIslander, that would just put EVEN MORE emphasis on Dan's youtube... the point of this is to take focus OFF of Dan's youtube >_< So you are saying you want to remove any recognition given to Dans videos in term of forum-structure? Even though there are a TON of threads created dedicated to Dans Videos? Here is where I don't agree with you. Placing DBU Discussion videos in the important section = Centering forums around DBU. That ^ We both agree on. What you are saying is: Placing DBU Discussion videos in a separate section = Centering forums around DBU. Wrong. Sections are there to organize threads, if there are a lot of threads related to DBU why shouldn't we have a section dedicated to them? They won't be announcements, they will be just DBU threads. In the same way, if we have a lot of TED talks videos, RWJ vides, PhillyD videos - we can create sections for them respectively.
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Post by chelseeyuh on Apr 23, 2010 13:57:14 GMT -5
TheIslander, that would just put EVEN MORE emphasis on Dan's youtube... the point of this is to take focus OFF of Dan's youtube >_< So you are saying you want to remove any recognition given to Dans videos in term of forum-structure? Even though there are a TON of threads created dedicated to Dans Videos? Here is where I don't agree with you. Placing DBU Discussion videos in the important section = Centering forums around DBU. That ^ We both agree on. What you are saying is: Placing DBU Discussion videos in a separate section = Centering forums around DBU. Wrong. Sections are there to organize threads, if there are a lot of threads related to DBU why shouldn't we have a section dedicated to them? They won't be announcements, they will be just DBU threads. In the same way, if we have a lot of TED talks videos, RWJ vides, PhillyD videos - we can create sections for them respectively. I can't imagine the moon having an entire section dedicated to any of those things... One thread for any one youtuber is sufficient. Maybe an individual thread for a controversial video, but, again, the person doesn't need their own section. And as Cortney said in the other thread about that: Dan doesn't want to PogoTribe to be centered around him, so creating a sub-forum just for his videos would be a bit counter-productive. =P
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Post by TheIslander on Apr 23, 2010 14:09:33 GMT -5
Whatever anyone says about Dan not wanting the pogotribe to be centered around him, can only be applied to a certain extent. Dan is a 'big' youtuber' - there will be topics created about him that is that moreover he is the creator of SPOTM. There will be threads about Dan, no one can change that. You can only think about how to deal with it.
I cannot see how separating DBU videos from announcements is counterproductive. Please enlighten me.
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Post by Cortney on Apr 23, 2010 14:37:15 GMT -5
Eventually, Dan wants there to be a bunch of people on SPOTM who don't even know who he is. He doesn't want to be the one leader, mascot, or anything. He wants us to separate. He wants us to stop being associated with his Youtube channel. Yes, people are making threads about him now. In the future, we don't want there to be a million threads every time he makes a video: we want there to be as many threads for him as there are for other popular Youtubers. Creating a sub-forum just for him is counterproductive in that it ENCOURAGES people to create threads just for his videos.
I can almost promise you that there will never be a Dan Brown sub-forum, not because we're trying to overrule what you guys are saying, but because it is pulling the tribe as a whole further away from our vision.
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Post by TheIslander on Apr 23, 2010 14:43:14 GMT -5
Eventually, Dan wants there to be a bunch of people on SPOTM who don't even know who he is. He doesn't want to be the one leader, mascot, or anything. He wants us to separate. He wants us to stop being associated with his Youtube channel. Yes, people are making threads about him now. In the future, we don't want there to be a million threads every time he makes a video: we want there to be as many threads for him as there are for other popular Youtubers. Creating a sub-forum just for him is counterproductive in that it ENCOURAGES people to create threads just for his videos. I can almost promise you that there will never be a Dan Brown sub-forum, not because we're trying to overrule what you guys are saying, but because it is pulling the tribe as a whole further away from our vision. So you would rather have people posting 3 threads about the same topic in different forums rather than visiting a common section for these 3 separate threads?
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Post by chelseeyuh on Apr 23, 2010 16:09:31 GMT -5
So you would rather have people posting 3 threads about the same topic in different forums rather than visiting a common section for these 3 separate threads? Well that already happens with a lot of topics anyway... It's inevitable that threads will have duplicates.. Just because people don't check to see if a thread already exists doesn't mean that every idea deserves it's own section.
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Post by Cortney on Apr 23, 2010 16:28:50 GMT -5
So you would rather have people posting 3 threads about the same topic in different forums rather than visiting a common section for these 3 separate threads? So you're saying that 3 threads merits creating an entire new sub-board?
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Post by TheIslander on Apr 23, 2010 16:56:06 GMT -5
So you would rather have people posting 3 threads about the same topic in different forums rather than visiting a common section for these 3 separate threads? So you're saying that 3 threads merits creating an entire new sub-board? There won't be 3 threads if there is an entire sub board because once people go to the sub board they will realize that there is already a thread for that topic. Right now, DBU videos have no place - DBU videos shouldnt be in the announcements since they dont have anything to do with the announcements... yet the ones which are in the general section are being closed. Give these threads a place to be posted and the problem is solved. It has already been said that splitting the site from Dan is still a distant Idea so why are we trying to deal with it right now? As I said earlier this has nothing to do with DBU videos as such it is more about organizing the forums in such a way that it is easier to know where to post the right thing. Forget the tribe being related to Dan and think about what can happen to give DBU discussions a proper un-bias place on this board.
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Post by Cortney on Apr 23, 2010 17:37:43 GMT -5
Being separate from Dan not as distant as you think. If we get started now, it will be accomplished when it needs to be accomplished. We can't wait until it is necessary and then expect it to happen overnight: these things take time.
I think the threads are doing fine in the important board. I'd rather them just go in Youtube like all other video discussion threads, but at least here they'll get seen by most members. I don't mind locking 2-3 duplicate threads as long as we're still progressing toward separating from Dan (and while it may not seem like it, we are making progress).
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Post by chelseeyuh on Apr 23, 2010 17:42:21 GMT -5
Side note: I also feel like once we start gaining new members that aren't Dan's viewers, it will be difficult to make them stay because they'll see that Dan's videos are "important" and if they don't watch his videos they'll feel like they don't belong. Sorry if I seem pushy about this.. I just really want to see the moon move towards autonomy.
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Post by hey light on Apr 23, 2010 17:45:54 GMT -5
I really agree that we should create a new subforum for Dan videos. That way we can separate ourselves more from Dan's video's. We're not trying to separate ourselves from Dan's leadership, we're just trying to separate ourselves from his fanbase.
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Post by Cortney on Apr 23, 2010 17:49:03 GMT -5
Creating a sub-forum just for Dan's videos doesn't separate us from his fanbase, it emphasizes our connection.
Like I said, my goal is for the threads to slowly end up in the Youtube section. Not stickied, not in their own board, just THERE.
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Post by hey light on Apr 23, 2010 17:57:43 GMT -5
Like I said, my goal is for the threads to slowly end up in the Youtube section. Not stickied, not in their own board, just THERE. I guess that would work.
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Post by chelseeyuh on Apr 23, 2010 23:00:50 GMT -5
Like I said, my goal is for the threads to slowly end up in the Youtube section. Not stickied, not in their own board, just THERE. I guess that would work. ._. That's what I said! How come you agree only after she says it?! :[
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Post by click3tyclick on Apr 24, 2010 4:15:21 GMT -5
._. That's what I said! How come you agree only after she says it?! :[ It has something to do with the orange name.
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Post by hey light on Apr 24, 2010 5:47:26 GMT -5
._. That's what I said! How come you agree only after she says it?! :[ It has something to do with the orange name. What is that supposed to mean?
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Post by chelseeyuh on Apr 24, 2010 5:53:59 GMT -5
It has something to do with the orange name. What is that supposed to mean? He's saying that you agree with Cortney because she's an admin.
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Post by hey light on Apr 24, 2010 7:14:03 GMT -5
What is that supposed to mean? He's saying that you agree with Cortney because she's an admin. No, I was agreeing because it was a better idea that having a subforum.
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Post by Trey on Apr 24, 2010 7:45:48 GMT -5
He's saying that you agree with Cortney because she's an admin. No, I was agreeing because it was a better idea that having a subforum. Yeah, we know that part The argument's already been made, though I can't imagine the moon having an entire section dedicated to any of those things... One thread for any one youtuber is sufficient. Maybe an individual thread for a controversial video, but, again, the person doesn't need their own section. I really agree that we should create a new subforum for Dan videos. That way we can separate ourselves more from Dan's video's. We're not trying to separate ourselves from Dan's leadership, we're just trying to separate ourselves from his fanbase. Like I said, my goal is for the threads to slowly end up in the Youtube section. Not stickied, not in their own board, just THERE. I guess that would work.
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Post by nogfromny on Apr 24, 2010 13:06:40 GMT -5
wtf obsession creepy
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