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Post by mashuga31 on Apr 19, 2010 22:51:59 GMT -5
Well, I've been holding this one in for a while. i guess theres a time for everything right?
I think the noble cause of the pogotribe should indeed be "decreasing world suck" but i think it has to be a 'lot' more defined than that. Thus: let me define my perspective.
The noble cause of the pogotribe should be in plain terms: To change the world for the better, to make it a happier, all around nicer place and most of all, help humanity as a whole to do the same.
In other words we would be the jump start that it would take for the world to finally turn it's direction without the aid of religion, treehugging, or even our own country. The world isn't going to change on it's own aside from technology, and I think all it needs is a friendly nudge in the right direction. No matter who you are, where you came from, what your views are, or what you've done, every human being on this planet shares something in common. Earth is our home. And in a home we are a family, a rather large one maybe, but a family any size is a family nonetheless. We should not only share our own values (The values of the Pogotribe) but have the whole world come to terms with the values that everybody should hold. Peace on Earth, Good will towards men, and many many more. I accept that my opinion may be rejected, but right now I 'am' standing by what I know to be true when I suggest this: The world would be a better, happier place to live, if we treated eachother like family and if the human race as a whole was just a little bit nicer, helped those in need, and stepped up to get a job worth doing done.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 20, 2010 2:11:03 GMT -5
I agree mashuga.
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Post by TheIslander on Apr 20, 2010 7:15:05 GMT -5
I was expecting: a 10 min video which would inform me on dans views of the tea party, which would be (as in his other videos) constructive even if he is trying to critize the tea party movement.
What I got: a sarcastic 10 min video which tells me that not only is he against palin and the movement but too much to explain it (as he does in his other videos) resorting to sarcasm which leads to nowhere as such.
To all those talking about being a zombie, as Dan mentions in the videos a lot of Democrats think that Sarah palin/the tea party movement are idiots.. that is (what I think) he is trying to bring out through the video. Exposing how tea party protesters are 'zombies'.
The zombies argument is a double edged argument, in the sense that by posting this sarcastic video Dan is also a zombie following up on calling plain/protesters idiots.
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Post by kernoll on Apr 20, 2010 7:39:54 GMT -5
I like the idea of unlimited acsess to the information worldwide...
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Post by Deleted on Apr 20, 2010 9:04:01 GMT -5
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Post by Johncoyne on Apr 20, 2010 10:02:27 GMT -5
Tribe triads. Lemme splane it to you.
We could aim to make this tribe really really really big. But with a huge tribe, there would be a lot of management to do. Once the tribe gets really big, we could branch off into three smaller tribes. Those tribes could get bigger and bigger and each of those could branch off into three tribes, teaching the next generation how to get bigger and stronger. It would be the triad process with less triads but on a larger scale. Our goal would be to have everyone on Earth be involved in some sort of tribe, even if it takes hundreds of years.
Due to my laziness and short attention span, I have decided not to read your lengthy post.: We take over the world for good.
Edits fo' gr4mMeR.
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Post by WSeanMiller on Apr 20, 2010 12:50:11 GMT -5
what about making the whole world into a tribe? get everyone to look out for each other and care for each other. get more people to volunteer, raise lotso money for charities. idk, something along those lines? if the whole world could be as friendly as our tribe, could you imagine how phenomenal that would be?
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Post by Johncoyne on Apr 20, 2010 12:53:00 GMT -5
That's exactly my thinking, wseanmiller.
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Post by click3tyclick on Apr 20, 2010 12:56:58 GMT -5
what about making the whole world into a tribe? Just like the game?
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Post by Jake on Apr 20, 2010 12:58:55 GMT -5
There's been talk about how possible things are, and what goals are vague/achievable and all this. But I agree with Chelsea's original Noble Cause of: "To End World Suck". Even if it sounds vauge.
This is impossible (or if you don't like the term "impossible", then "very hard") for the PogoTribe to do alone - let's be honest. But there are groups and charities for each individual way of preventing each individual part of world suck. Work together with these groups, and get them to work together, and it suddenly gets a lot more realistic. Create one big organisation of people and charities working together - and you've got a lot better chance of ending world suck than each group doing it alone.
Due to my laziness and short attention span, I have decided not to read your lengthy post.? We try and end world suck by getting many other charities and organizations to work with us. Working together rather than alone.
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Post by nickgreyden on Apr 20, 2010 13:46:37 GMT -5
I like ending world suck. How's this for specific (thank you Garth Brooks)
When the last child cries for a crust of bread When the last man dies for just words that he said When there's shelter over the poorest head We shall be free
When the last thing we notice is the color of skin And the first thing we look for is the beauty within When the skies and the oceans are clean again Then we shall be free
When we're free to love anyone we choose When this world's big enough for all different views When we all can worship from our own kind of pew Then we shall be free
And when money talks for the very last time And nobody walks a step behind When there's only one race and that's mankind Then we shall be free
RAMEN
Is that specific enough?
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Post by Johncoyne on Apr 20, 2010 13:51:57 GMT -5
^ Just add a Ramen at the end and it's all good.
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Post by nickgreyden on Apr 20, 2010 14:02:42 GMT -5
lol fixt!
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Post by Jake on Apr 20, 2010 16:00:28 GMT -5
Yay for adding "Ramen" at the end! But yeah, I'm all for ending world suck as the Noble Cause!
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Post by RabbitWho on Apr 20, 2010 16:10:09 GMT -5
I was expecting: a 10 min video which would inform me on dans views of the tea party, which would be (as in his other videos) constructive even if he is trying to critize the tea party movement. What I got: a sarcastic 10 min video which tells me that not only is he against palin and the movement but too much to explain it (as he does in his other videos) resorting to sarcasm which leads to nowhere as such. To all those talking about being a zombie, as Dan mentions in the videos a lot of Democrats think that Sarah palin/the tea party movement are idiots.. that is (what I think) he is trying to bring out through the video. Exposing how tea party protesters are 'zombies'. The zombies argument is a double edged argument, in the sense that by posting this sarcastic video Dan is also a zombie following up on calling plain/protesters idiots. You've changed my mind about this, i think the thing is funny and I see the point he is making, but I am not American and I know almost nothing about the Tea Party. All my knowledge of Sarah Palin 1, She has a kid with some kind of disability 1. She likes to shoot defenseless dogs from planes and apparently she even likes to deface their bodies afterwords by cutting their legs off. (Wolves and dogs are still the same species, biologically and spiritually, wolves make great pets if have them from puppies, and you've enough energy to walk them or you have them pulling sleds etc..) Margret Atwood told me this on Twitter. 1. She was McCains running mate 1. She's from Alaska or Nebraska or Arkansas or Alabama or one of those ones. And yet, despite the fact I know nothing about her, i just joined in in the mockery. Of course killing wolves is a big enough reason for me to hate someone.. but that's not what everyone is protesting, i've no idea what they're all protesting. I never even asked.. I was a complete zombie. Thanks for pointing it out to me.
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Post by Gesh on Apr 20, 2010 17:33:23 GMT -5
I really like Mashuga's idea: To change the world for the better, to make it a happier, all around nicer place and most of all, help humanity as a whole to do the same. However, I think one little word should be changed: To change the world for the better, to make it a happier, all around nicer place and most of all, encourage humanity as a whole to do the same. ~ And I saw some posts about our ultimate goal involving a utopia. I don't like this idea much, because a utopia isn't impossible in the sense that we can not possibly achieve it on our own - a utopia is impossible in the sense that nature simply does not allow it. An idea borrowed from James Hilton's "Lost Horizon".. a utopia can exist if the members of the society learn to purge all desires and live in moderation in every way. Don't strive for the extreme side of the spectrum that calls for strictness, and don't strive for the extreme that calls for too much relaxation and laid-back-ness-ness. Instead, meet somewhere in the middle. ( "We inculcate the virtue of avoiding excess of all kinds - even including ... excess of virtue itself. ...we have found that the principle makes for a considerable degree of happiness. We rule with moderate strictness, and in return we are satisfied with moderate obedience. And I think I can claim that our people are moderately sober, moderately chaste, and moderately honest.") And get rid of all desires, so that you don't have the drive to want more, need more, or do better. But then.. is this lifestyle really a utopia, or just boredom? So then, that implies the paradox that even a utopia is not a utopia. ~ Also, about the whole "making/keeping everyone happy" thing... you can't know the full value of a good day without having experienced the bad ones. It's like if you're climbing a mountain. After the long, demanding climb up the side, the view at the top feels a lot more amazing than if you simply flew up there in a helicopter. Now, I feel that this noble cause discussion is really a lot like the values discussion. Perhaps, if someone hasn't done so already, we should make a wiki page about this? Because, after all, this thread in essence is like a more complicated version of the YouTube comments section, to use Dan's own words.
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Post by Celeste on Apr 20, 2010 18:50:43 GMT -5
hmmmm this is a toughy
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Post by TheIslander on Apr 20, 2010 19:57:57 GMT -5
ugh crap, thanks for pointing. Aids scares me, donating towards curing aids and AIDS awareness?
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Post by FranticProdigy on Apr 20, 2010 21:23:21 GMT -5
FIRST (sorry had to indulge my inner troll) Cool TOK man... But what will happen after we accomplish our Noble Cause? If our tribe has accomplished the cause... What happens next? A new noble cause?
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Post by TheIslander on Apr 20, 2010 22:09:01 GMT -5
FIRST (sorry had to indulge my inner troll) Cool TOK man... But what will happen after we accomplish our Noble Cause? If our tribe has accomplished the cause... What happens next? A new noble cause? or move on with your life... there is nothing more beautiful than realizing that you have reached a goal and moving on to a new environment.
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