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Post by binini on May 21, 2010 16:29:56 GMT -5
how can anyone justify this it is wrong on so many levels, yes there is freedom of speech but this is hurting so many people its what they believe in it if you don't like then just respect their judgment and leave it be. Why have to people turn to offense to try and solve something it just makes the whole situation so much more worse. If we want to get all long then we need to be respectful of other peoples beliefs no matter what. Especially when they have no meaning or effect on us i mean what does it matter if we don't draw Muhammad our lives arnt suddenly limited because of it. How would you like it if someone did something you completely disagree with, you would feel that they don't care about other people's feelings and just care about themselves
I think a major apology is needed, this is basically racism
P.S. there will always be extremists in every part of culture and religion not just Muslim
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Post by click3tyclick on May 21, 2010 16:31:10 GMT -5
Hey. Making long posts offends me. Please delete that post or I will be forced to nuke your country off the face of Earth.
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Post by Breepop on May 21, 2010 16:32:21 GMT -5
Loaded question is loaded.
Of course it's offensive. But the point is that it is stupid to be offended by a drawing.
I'm not voting; poll is too biased.
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Post by Insane_Zang on May 21, 2010 16:32:45 GMT -5
Portugal has nukes?
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Post by jmejia1187 on May 21, 2010 16:33:53 GMT -5
Well, the point is, people are allowed to be offensive, and not be killed. Muslims have KILLED PEOPLE for drawing Muhammed in the past!
Who is the greater evil?
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Post by Insane_Zang on May 21, 2010 16:35:09 GMT -5
Cthulhu
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Post by Tiffany on May 21, 2010 16:46:41 GMT -5
Haha XD But anyways, about the topic. There's always going to be something that offends SOMEBODY. I mean. I get the fact that it's about religion, but still. Yeah, we should probably be respectful of their wishes, culture, etc., but it's not such a big deal that you have to kill people over it.
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Post by Lex on May 21, 2010 16:55:38 GMT -5
I agreed with its premise, but it's been hijacked into a racist and anti-Islamic. attack by much of the internet.
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Post by newschooled on May 21, 2010 17:10:46 GMT -5
Respecting other cultures and/or religions does NOT mean you don't have freedom of speech. Thinking in absolutes is a very bigoted and paranoid tactic.
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Post by Johncoyne on May 21, 2010 17:14:44 GMT -5
It's kinda like burning crosses as a protest against the Church. Sure, it's bad to KILL people over drawing pictures, but show some respect.
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Post by Nakor on May 21, 2010 17:15:31 GMT -5
What happens if Christians feel that the Qu'ran is offensive? And Jews could obviously find the new testament offensive. Creationists think it's offensive to teach proven evolutionary biology in science classes without creation myth alongside it. Westboro Baptist Church things gays are offensive. How do we determine what is okay to be offensive about and what is not?
I agree that some people have hijacked Draw Mohammed Day into something highly offensive. I disagree with them, but respect their right to draw those images. At the same time a LOT of very peace oriented images have been drawn for Draw Mohammed Day, and I think it's a bit absurd to be offended by them and very absurd to try to ban people drawing them.
By the by, I find speaking out against free speech to be offensive. But it's okay, OP, because I do respect your free speech right to speak about it.
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Post by kshults on May 21, 2010 17:33:53 GMT -5
First time I've drawn something in a long long while, but I picked up the pencil for this.
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Post by Deleted on May 21, 2010 17:46:31 GMT -5
EDIT: Removed, as I changed my mind and post a more moderate opinion in here.
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Post by darkless on May 21, 2010 17:56:45 GMT -5
No apology is necessary, they brought this on themselves one word out of line and the extremists (and yes this is aimed purely at the extremists if you aren't an extremist it shouldn't offend you) and burning flags and killing people in the streets, but they expect us to sit around and listen to their slander about our culture and religion? What about that seems fair to you?
This is about freedom of speech we can say what we want and Muslims can say what they want, our problem is that the the extremist Muslims are starting to deny us our freedom of speech by what they say and no one is going should just sit back and let them do that.
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Post by RandiKthxxx on May 21, 2010 18:19:12 GMT -5
Yes.
EDIT: On a side note, I wonder what the responses would be like if Dan's video would have gone in another direction...
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Post by swan on May 21, 2010 18:36:41 GMT -5
From what I understand, Muslim extremists don't like Muhammad (as well as other prophets like jesus) to be depicted because it creates idol worship, which I can understand and respect, but I don't think Draw Muhammad day is fundamentally offensive. There are just some people who have taken it as an opportunity to attack Muslim values, instead of what it really is, which is a demonstration of freedom of speech.
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Post by Deleted on May 21, 2010 18:45:12 GMT -5
EDIT: On a side note, I wonder what the responses would be like if Dan's video would have gone in another direction... I didn't even knew Dan had posted a new video until you said it
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Post by alexquantizes on May 21, 2010 18:45:44 GMT -5
This is a confusing subject for me, I'm almost torn.
On one hand, Draw Mohamed Day seems (to me) like the equivalent of burning a cross in front of a church, and those who draw him seem like they are really just trying to provoke them (Troll much?). It seems like they are trying to provoke them so they can point out the flaw in their reaction, which annoys me. It's like yelling "I F**KING HATE F**KING N*GGERS" in front a black person, then saying "Are you trying to stifle my freedom of speech?" after they get pissed off.
On the other hand, Freedom of speech is still free and drawing Mohamed is legal. The rule is stupid and the reaction was inexcusable. If they don't like it, they shouldn't look.
Conclusion: If you don't like the rule, ignore it, don't go out of your way to break it. The premise of free speech was meant to share ideas, not to troll. Good premise, Terrible execution.
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Post by Trey on May 21, 2010 19:09:24 GMT -5
Hey, I want to retract my vote. I clicked no on accident.
Of course it's offensive. However, I am not obligated to follow the Muslim rules when I'm not Muslim. "Draw Mohammed" day is probably the biggest troll on any religion in history.
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Post by Insane_Zang on May 21, 2010 19:10:53 GMT -5
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