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Post by Lex on Jun 29, 2010 14:45:14 GMT -5
Everyone knows that you become immune to STD's at the age of 16 years, 4 months, 1 week, 6 days, 18 hours, 42 minutes, and 3 seconds. It's science. Look it up in a book. </thread> fix'd
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Post by Jessica on Jun 29, 2010 20:36:31 GMT -5
Honestly, I think you should not have sex until you are an adult, so when you turn 18, you can do it all you want.
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Post by Cortney on Jun 29, 2010 23:00:23 GMT -5
Honestly, I think you should not have sex until you are an adult, so when you turn 18, you can do it all you want. Adulthood is more of a mental state than a defined age. 18 is only there for legal issues. I know a lot of 18 year olds who act like they're 13. That's another problem with this question - age is just a number. The answer to this question lies in the mind and how you think. If you're mature enough to know you're ready, then go for it. However, a lot of 16 year olds think they're mature enough, and it's kind of retarded to say the least.
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Post by newschooled on Jun 29, 2010 23:12:53 GMT -5
Yeah, but ask any 13 year old if they think THEY'RE immature. Sorry, not a state of mind!
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Post by Insane_Zang on Jun 30, 2010 0:57:17 GMT -5
I know a lot of 18 year olds who act like they're 13. Asher's 19...
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Post by Lex on Jun 30, 2010 0:59:58 GMT -5
And I'm sixteen.
DONKEY!
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Post by chelseeyuh on Jun 30, 2010 1:35:32 GMT -5
I know a lot of 18 year olds who act like they're 13. Asher's 19... It's funny cuz... you're 13, and Asher is clearly much more mature than you... Also, Josh, if you're going to intervene in debates, you should like, contribute something... not just make sarcastic comments and accuse people of being immature >_>
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Post by Insane_Zang on Jun 30, 2010 1:40:49 GMT -5
I dint contribute to debates like this for obvious reasons >.>
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Post by chelseeyuh on Jun 30, 2010 1:50:11 GMT -5
I dint contribute to debates like this for obvious reasons >.> don't* And I don't know what you mean by "for obvious reasons." The only obvious reason I can think of someone not contributing to a debate is that they don't have an opinion, and in this instance, I think that's slightly impossible. If you don't want to partake in a serious discussion, that's fine. But you don't need to purposely get off topic, either.
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Post by ladystardust on Jul 1, 2010 16:09:48 GMT -5
I don't mind the occasional off-topic joke or comment, as long as it isn't too disruptive or offensive. Those few words weren't exactly a considerable waste of time, and I certainly didn't think it was worth the time it takes to voice any discontent I may have had.
I then ask myself: why am I replying now? Because I hope that my contribution to this small digression may help people see past something that is so very small, not get upset or offended, and simply carry on.
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Post by chelseeyuh on Jul 1, 2010 16:39:13 GMT -5
He posted in this thread 5 times... none of which really addressed the topic... I consider that to be more than a slight digression. And I wasn't upset or offended or whatever.. I just wanted Zang to take something seriously.. But we already discussed this, so there's no point in discussing this any further (the digressions, that is. By all means, get back on topic and discuss xD)
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Post by anothereffingjoe on Jul 1, 2010 19:23:12 GMT -5
The age when its go time to have sex really depends on the person, their situation and their upbringing.
I had sex for the first time when I was 14. My parents were in Jamaica on vaca for a week. I understood the risks because my Dad had been good enough to fully explain to me the risks, emotional investment, etc etc to me. It was the perfect situation for ME to have sex at that age. To this day I'm cool with how my first time went down.
That said, I don't think that anyone unprepared should be having sex. Its a dangerous thing we do. If you're prepared at 14 then go for it, just play safe. If you're not prepared for it until you're 60 then wait. And still play safe.
As for some of the other arguments, I think the question you guys are really looking for is "Can we regulate this and guarantee no one unprepared/underage is having sex?" And the answer is NO. Not unless we go to a 1984-esque society where everyone is watched at all times. Which presents its own issues.
So the best thing we as a society can do is to educate those who are looking to engage in sex for the first time. I'm not talking about techniques or whatever. I'm talking about the risks and how to minimize those. The old message of "Abstinence-only" is no longer going to work because society says you don't marry until you're 18 but you want to have sex at 13-14. Abstinence-only worked back when people would get married that young. Thankfully, we have evolved past that, but not without the issue of needing to discuss sex to unmarried youth.
And I just accidentally typed a lot more the I had intended.
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Post by Lex on Jul 1, 2010 21:46:38 GMT -5
Abstinence-only worked back when people were threatened with hellfire and believed it.
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Post by Obilink on Jul 4, 2010 2:47:04 GMT -5
After the sexual and physical being of a person has matured to the point of being able to support and participate in healthy sex, I believe it is a matter of the maturity level of the individual. I have seen cases where a child is indeed ready for sexual intercourse, and I have also seen cases where a fully-grown adult is not ready for sex. Really, the subject is too vast to be covered by a blanket statement. Though as a generality, I believe the the age of 17 is a good life period to start such intercourse.
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Post by Nakor on Jul 4, 2010 11:52:49 GMT -5
Abstinence-only worked back when people were threatened with hellfire and believed it. And when abstinence only was truly the only safe choice. People until recently (from a history sense of 'recently') didn't have access to any sort of reliable contraception. It should be noted that contraception did exist, in various forms, but it ranged from totally ineffective to somewhat effective, but nothing truly reliable such as we have today.
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Post by Dimstow on Jul 4, 2010 12:16:03 GMT -5
When it comes to sex, like most issues in modern life, the issue should always be considered on a person to person basis.
People mature at different rats, people think and act differently, people have different needs, wants, desires, passions and just about everything else about us is unique to us as individuals. There is no magical date that suddenly makes you ready and no point that is too early in life so long as you are physically ready,and mentally happy with your decision and you continue to be.
I've heard it said many times that young people 'just haven't experienced enough, they'll mature a bit more then regret a lot of things they did.' Too that mindset I say 2 things. 1. Even if that is true, to beat yourself up over a decision you made early in your life that made you happy, that you didn't regret until your life had drastically change and only regretted in reflection is silly, when thinking about your past you have to think of yourself as you were in your past and consider all of the thought and situations involved in your decisions, there's no need to mentally abuse yourself because as a 15-year-old-you were in a happy relationship and felt confident in moving towards that next step, even if 30 years down the line you wish 15-year-old-you's boyfriend wasn't a lying asshole.
2. When i say that everyone matures at different rates I mean it, truly, there are people who are completely physically,mentally and emotionally ready for sex by age 12, and some who aren't ready until they're 30. and you cannot slap a magical date onto people as to when it's 'fine', it just doesn't work that way. When your ready you'll have the ability to be ready for sex, the mental sharpness to be fully aware of your situation both now and in the future and be prepared for it, and the emotional ability to take all of those situations in and still feel good about your doing, and you also need someone else who is at the same point in those 3 categories as you are.
Oh, and lube never hurts.
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Post by Joey on Jul 4, 2010 12:22:37 GMT -5
When it comes to sex, like most issues in modern life, the issue should always be considered on a person to person basis. People mature at different rats, people think and act differently, people have different needs, wants, desires, passions and just about everything else about us is unique to us as individuals. There is no magical date that suddenly makes you ready and no point that is too early in life so long as you are physically ready,and mentally happy with your decision and you continue to be. I've heard it said many times that young people 'just haven't experienced enough, they'll mature a bit more then regret a lot of things they did.' Too that mindset I say 2 things. 1. Even if that is true, to beat yourself up over a decision you made early in your life that made you happy, that you didn't regret until your life had drastically change and only regretted in reflection is silly, when thinking about your past you have to think of yourself as you were in your past and consider all of the thought and situations involved in your decisions, there's no need to mentally abuse yourself because as a 15-year-old-you were in a happy relationship and felt confident in moving towards that next step, even if 30 years down the line you wish 15-year-old-you's boyfriend wasn't a lying asshole. 2. When i say that everyone matures at different rates I mean it, truly, there are people who are completely physically,mentally and emotionally ready for sex by age 12, and some who aren't ready until they're 30. and you cannot slap a magical date onto people as to when it's 'fine', it just doesn't work that way. When your ready you'll have the ability to be ready for sex, the mental sharpness to be fully aware of your situation both now and in the future and be prepared for it, and the emotional ability to take all of those situations in and still feel good about your doing, and you also need someone else who is at the same point in those 3 categories as you are. Oh, and lube never hurts. The beard is back!!!!!!!! And there is a big point he makes. There is No set time that you can stamp on it. It's different for everyone. Personally, I'll probably wait till marriage because I thunk it's something that I want to share with one person. But you can choose what you want, just remeber kids, it's not rape if they enjoy it!
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Post by captainmaddux on Jul 5, 2010 1:00:44 GMT -5
I think that putting an age recommendation on when a person should have sex is about as impractical as trying to place an age on when someone should be able to drive. I've met some twelve year olds who were more than capable of driving. Conversely, I've met some thirty year olds who shouldn't own a bicycle.
Not to say that kids should have intercourse at ten, but maturity measured at the personal level should definitely be a factor. Some people in their twenties don't have the mental maturity necessary to have sex without catastrophe, casual or otherwise. And I think that there are some "advanced" teens out there who wouldn't suffer from having sex in any way.
As far as education on consequence, think about this: the age group with the most new cases of HIV is forty to sixty. I'd like to think that the generation above us (who taught US about such things) would be more mature and forward thinking than WE are at our position in life. But sometimes logical theories are proven wrong.
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Post by mollybeth92 on Jul 5, 2010 1:33:12 GMT -5
When it comes to sex, like most issues in modern life, the issue should always be considered on a person to person basis. I wasn't told you should be 18 to have sex until my 6th grade Sex Ed. class. My mom always told me that if I thought I was ready then I was ready. Her only request was for me to ask her to buy me birth control, not baby diapers. I am 17 years old and I know I'm not ready for sex. I won't be when I'm 18 either. Other people were ready 3 years ago. It's all about how you mature; there is not right or wrong age.
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Post by redkneehighsocks on Jul 5, 2010 2:39:41 GMT -5
16 both ways. and maturity does play an important role. but i'd definitly say 16 as a minimum age. i've seen too many of my friends tieing down there lives to raising childeren when they them selves haven't had a proper education and may not be able to support that child as get older. yeah yeah i know, contraception, but still :l
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